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socal
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Bad moon on the rise for slabbers. People that took over Salvation Mountain trying to organize Slab City community, form a charitable organizations and take slabs off state's hands. Not sure any good can come of this.

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fly-boy
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Been to the Slabs many times- You may even find us at the Range tonight. ๐Ÿ™‚ The place and the people there should simply be left as is-

Slab City should be way down the list of issues to be addressed in a country with as many problems as we currently have!
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fla-gypsy wrote:
I understand and support the sentiments of those who wish to live off the grid and be left alone to enjoy real liberty. Many of us who have assimilated into society yearn for true freedom which is not to be found in our current political malaise. I think the pioneer spirit is imbedded in many people in this country, it is after all part of our history as a people. The problem is it rarely works out in the good ole USA. Some tyrant type will try to take over or some busybody will either want to save you from yourself for your own good or the good of society(ha) or some pol will figure out how to tax you for it. Most of us just give up and assimilate. Resistance seems to be futile!


Nicely stated and very perceptive!

I'm wondering deep down inside if that isn't what's behind some of us loving to boondock-RV in certain special spots out in the middle of nowhere .... a yearning for a few moments of true freedom.

Unfortunately, capturing and sustaining those few moments is becoming more and more expensive so less and less of us will be able to experience it going forward.
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fla-gypsy
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I understand and support the sentiments of those who wish to live off the grid and be left alone to enjoy real liberty. Many of us who have assimilated into society yearn for true freedom which is not to be found in our current political malaise. I think the pioneer spirit is imbedded in many people in this country, it is after all part of our history as a people. The problem is it rarely works out in the good ole USA. Some tyrant type will try to take over or some busybody will either want to save you from yourself for your own good or the good of society(ha) or some pol will figure out how to tax you for it. Most of us just give up and assimilate. Resistance seems to be futile!
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Desertboy
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Well thank you Sir, I hope to see you there one day. Ill help you.
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Desertboy wrote:
garyhaupt wrote:
Well, let me address some of the questions. There IS a plan to the Slabs.

here is a partial ariel views and as you can see..there is a lay-out.



This is Mike.



Mike is a vet, with cancer. He and his wife Lynne operate the Oasis Cafe. It's on Low Road and if you were going to go..find it, say hello and ask where to park. They'll keep you on the right path. Tell Lynne I said hi..I'll be down in March for a visit.

If you like people...this place has it's share of artists, engineers, teachers, runners, hiders, campers, loosers, winners, writers, journalists. It has some druggies and drunks, vegetarians and some really poor folk. A person can't drive in, stay in their Rv with the doors locked, stay the night and leave in the early am. Not if you want to see what's going on.

Now a caveat....I am the kind that just wants to go places and say hi. I like off-the wall. I also don't 'do' campgrounds. I like colouring outside the lines. If you are super straight, uptight and scared of stuff....stay away. If you can stand to see nude people in the mud bath, people walking around with a beer and joint in their hands at 7am, if you can play a guitar or harp..flute, drum? If body piercings and tats are okay with you, if you can actually walk about and not stare, but can say hi...you'll do.

But, please stop saying how bad something is that you have never tried.



Gary Haupt


That's kinda how I feel. Thanks Gary for clearing that up. I mean these people chose a place where nobody else wanted to be so they could have some freedom, and yet some people still wont leave them alone. All I meant by cleaning the place up was some of the trash that's blowing around everywhere. It would be easy enough to do with a small tractor and a landscape rake because plastic bottles and all that burn well. And then take all the metal and old burned out cars to the scrapper if nobody wants them. Use the money for some dumpsters. Then make a donation box to collect $ for the Niland trash service to drive the 3 miles and come dump it. Problem solved. As far as humans pooping on the ground, well that's been going on since the beginning of time. If it were from any other animal it would be called fertilizer. The sun and ultraviolet rays have a way of reducing these things to nothing rather quickly. I guess that's better than adding it to the aquifer like we have been doing for the last hundred years. Sounds like to me this organization trying to take over is just after some free land that they can later begin charging a fee for, Maybe. It just seems to me that there should be some place here on this continent where people can go and be left alone. And what better place than way out there in the middle of nowhere, a place that nobody else has ever been interested in ever in the history of our Country until some busy bodies became envious of these peoples freedom. That's my final take on this topic. Im just going to follow along and read from here on out.


Desertboy:

Well said and thank you for your words, I agree whole heartedly.

Keep it free with no bureaucracy involved.

I'm looking forward to spending some of my wintering in the south there doing volunteer work cleaning up once I retire.
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Gjac
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garyhaupt wrote:
Well, let me address some of the questions. There IS a plan to the Slabs.

here is a partial ariel views and as you can see..there is a lay-out.



This is Mike.



Mike is a vet, with cancer. He and his wife Lynne operate the Oasis Cafe. It's on Low Road and if you were going to go..find it, say hello and ask where to park. They'll keep you on the right path. Tell Lynne I said hi..I'll be down in March for a visit.

If you like people...this place has it's share of artists, engineers, teachers, runners, hiders, campers, loosers, winners, writers, journalists. It has some druggies and drunks, vegetarians and some really poor folk. A person can't drive in, stay in their Rv with the doors locked, stay the night and leave in the early am. Not if you want to see what's going on.

Now a caveat....I am the kind that just wants to go places and say hi. I like off-the wall. I also don't 'do' campgrounds. I like colouring outside the lines. If you are super straight, uptight and scared of stuff....stay away. If you can stand to see nude people in the mud bath, people walking around with a beer and joint in their hands at 7am, if you can play a guitar or harp..flute, drum? If body piercings and tats are okay with you, if you can actually walk about and not stare, but can say hi...you'll do.

But, please stop saying how bad something is that you have never tried.



Gary Haupt
. 2 years ago I spent the winter in the SW. I like to dry camp and see different places. Stayed at Q for a week, visited the Navajo reservation and Slab City and Salvation Mtn. I thought the area was interesting especially the history of Salvation Mtn. and the man behind the building of it. Talked to some of the locals some were Vets as Gary said. Some were hoarders, some had drug problems. The dynamics were no different than any city and were similar to the poverty on the Navajo reservation. Everyone has to live somewhere. Most of us on this forum can visit where ever we want and then return to our nice homes but some can't. My sense was that Salvation Mtn. was a symbol of hope for many of them.

garyhaupt
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monkey44 wrote:
Yes, please ... would be nice to see where this goes once the organization takes over. I'm guessing its BOD will be some of the folks that live there, and want to maintain its integrity as is, sorta. Without the degrading of the local environment.


I think that the push for change is coming from several corners, one of them being the EPA. The testing of the Chocolate Mountain bombing range has indicated very high levels of contaminants and I am guessing it's leaching into the canal and surrounding agriculture areas. I Googled Chocolate Mountain EPA and there are some big pieces there.

Now, what a non-profit charity bunch is doing in that mix, I can't even guess.



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socal
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Mello Mike wrote:
Folks, let's keep things civil and try to keep politics out of this. I'd hate to close this thread down.


My point is that in five winters of being here people i've come across are here for economic reasons and those like me that enjoy living off the grid.

Socal

monkey44
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Yes, please ... would be nice to see where this goes once the organization takes over. I'm guessing its BOD will be some of the folks that live there, and want to maintain its integrity as is, sorta. Without the degrading of the local environment.
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Folks, let's keep things civil and try to keep politics out of this. I'd hate to close this thread down.
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fla-gypsy
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socal wrote:
fla-gypsy wrote:
There is a difference between freedom and anarchy.


Fla-gypsy you ever been here to the slabs? Not sure where you get anarchy from but whatever. In fact if anything a number of these folks are dependent on uncle sugar for their care and wellbeing. I'm not but many are and yes there are people here not liking big brother but most of the polls indicate this to be true nation wide. Anarchy? That's a joke.

Socal


You made a lot of big assumptions from my post of a simple observation. I never said if I approved or disapproved, whether I have been there or not, whether I give a rats behind about what freaks do out in the desert.
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Desertboy
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garyhaupt wrote:
Well, let me address some of the questions. There IS a plan to the Slabs.

here is a partial ariel views and as you can see..there is a lay-out.



This is Mike.



Mike is a vet, with cancer. He and his wife Lynne operate the Oasis Cafe. It's on Low Road and if you were going to go..find it, say hello and ask where to park. They'll keep you on the right path. Tell Lynne I said hi..I'll be down in March for a visit.

If you like people...this place has it's share of artists, engineers, teachers, runners, hiders, campers, loosers, winners, writers, journalists. It has some druggies and drunks, vegetarians and some really poor folk. A person can't drive in, stay in their Rv with the doors locked, stay the night and leave in the early am. Not if you want to see what's going on.

Now a caveat....I am the kind that just wants to go places and say hi. I like off-the wall. I also don't 'do' campgrounds. I like colouring outside the lines. If you are super straight, uptight and scared of stuff....stay away. If you can stand to see nude people in the mud bath, people walking around with a beer and joint in their hands at 7am, if you can play a guitar or harp..flute, drum? If body piercings and tats are okay with you, if you can actually walk about and not stare, but can say hi...you'll do.

But, please stop saying how bad something is that you have never tried.



Gary Haupt


That's kinda how I feel. Thanks Gary for clearing that up. I mean these people chose a place where nobody else wanted to be so they could have some freedom, and yet some people still wont leave them alone. All I meant by cleaning the place up was some of the trash that's blowing around everywhere. It would be easy enough to do with a small tractor and a landscape rake because plastic bottles and all that burn well. And then take all the metal and old burned out cars to the scrapper if nobody wants them. Use the money for some dumpsters. Then make a donation box to collect $ for the Niland trash service to drive the 3 miles and come dump it. Problem solved. As far as humans pooping on the ground, well that's been going on since the beginning of time. If it were from any other animal it would be called fertilizer. The sun and ultraviolet rays have a way of reducing these things to nothing rather quickly. I guess that's better than adding it to the aquifer like we have been doing for the last hundred years. Sounds like to me this organization trying to take over is just after some free land that they can later begin charging a fee for, Maybe. It just seems to me that there should be some place here on this continent where people can go and be left alone. And what better place than way out there in the middle of nowhere, a place that nobody else has ever been interested in ever in the history of our Country until some busy bodies became envious of these peoples freedom. That's my final take on this topic. Im just going to follow along and read from here on out.
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socal
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fla-gypsy wrote:
There is a difference between freedom and anarchy.


Fla-gypsy you ever been here to the slabs? Not sure where you get anarchy from but whatever. In fact if anything a number of these folks are dependent on uncle sugar for their care and wellbeing. I'm not but many are and yes there are people here not liking big brother but most of the polls indicate this to be true nation wide. Anarchy? That's a joke.

Socal

Desertboy
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fla-gypsy wrote:
There is a difference between freedom and anarchy.

I understand what your saying. And they at least need to clean up the place.
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