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How to convert to LED lighting

NetBoy
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Hi, I think some of you will be interested in how I converted my RV lights to LED.

I initially tried 12 volt LED bulbs about 5 years go, and they were not satisfactory: they were expensive, didn't put out much light, and failed within a few hours due to over-heating problems. But now the technology has advanced significantly, and the current state-of-the-art multi-LED panels are truly amazing. I have converted every light in my Class C (even including the porch light, the range hood light, and the cab dome light) by retrofitting the existing fixtures with this technology. Basically I replaced each standard bayonet based incandescent bulb with a panel containing 48 SMD LEDs, arranged in a 6x8 array. These panels are available on eBay for less than $3 each including shipping -- you can find them by searching for "48 SMD White LED Light Panel".



The photo shows a typical light fixture after conversion. I just removed the incandescent bulbs and stuck the LED panels to the fixture. The panels come with double-backed foam tape on the back so they will self-stick, but I found the adhesive doesn't hold in the long-run, so I added a few dabs of silicone adhesive to the corners of the panels.

Many of the newer RV light fixtures use #921 wedge base bulbs, and the LED panels mentioned above come with an adapter for those so wiring is simple. Most older RV light fixtures (such as mine) use #1156 bayonet base bulbs, and there is no adapter included with the LED panels for those. So I cut the wedge base adapter off the wiring for the LED panels, and just soldered the wires to the appropriate places on the light fixture's bayonet bulb sockets.

How do these LED retrofitted lights work out? After about 8 months of use, I can say without reserve that they are FANTASTIC. Each panel puts out WAY MORE LIGHT than the incandescent bulbs they replaced, and they only use one-sixth the power (as measured with my digital amp meter: LED panel = .25A; incandescent bulb = 1.5A). Their published life is 20,000 hours and up. I have installed about 50 of these LED panels between my rig and my friends' rigs, and so far zero failures.

I even converted one of my florescent fixtures to this technology. I removed the twin 16 watt florescent tubes and the ballast, and pasted in 6 LED panels in their place (I added a toggle switch so I can use the LED panels 3 or 6 at a time). That light is great -- instant on, no flickering, and way more light than before.

Best wishes.....

PS: (Added on 3Apr12 edit) Check out the Red LED light I added on April Fools Day - details on Page 9 of this thread:




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tenbear
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U.P. BLDR wrote:
Tom&Dale wrote:
57 Panhead wrote:
I'm so pleased with them that I just ordered another 10 to finish the trailer.

Same with me but my total LED (36 panel as well) count is now 27 including outdoor and storage lights. This upgrade, along with the electronic ignition for the stove / oven, are my top two from this forum.
Great topic!
Tom

Hey there could you direct me to the stove ignitor mod, have searched and can't find a thing.


Is this the site you are looking for?
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Grillmeister
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U.P. BLDR wrote:
Tom&Dale wrote:
57 Panhead wrote:
I'm so pleased with them that I just ordered another 10 to finish the trailer.

Same with me but my total LED (36 panel as well) count is now 27 including outdoor and storage lights. This upgrade, along with the electronic ignition for the stove / oven, are my top two from this forum.
Great topic!
Tom

Hey there could you direct me to the stove ignitor mod, have searched and can't find a thing.
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U_P__BLDR
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Tom&Dale wrote:
57 Panhead wrote:
I'm so pleased with them that I just ordered another 10 to finish the trailer.

Same with me but my total LED (36 panel as well) count is now 27 including outdoor and storage lights. This upgrade, along with the electronic ignition for the stove / oven, are my top two from this forum.
Great topic!
Tom

Hey there could you direct me to the stove ignitor mod, have searched and can't find a thing.
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scott1
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I got my 36 LED boards today and tested them in one of my foixtures. I think they will work. Need to order 19 more to convert all of them over now. Thanks for the tip!

hoss1045
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Just ordered some lights. I have pondering this whole issue of a conversion. Thanks to this post I ordered 48 SMD White LED Light Panel T10 Festoon Ba9s Dome 12V. they come with 3 adaptors. we will see if they work. $2.79 ea free shipping.
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Tom_Dale
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57 Panhead wrote:
I'm so pleased with them that I just ordered another 10 to finish the trailer.

Same with me but my total LED (36 panel as well) count is now 27 including outdoor and storage lights. This upgrade, along with the electronic ignition for the stove / oven, are my top two from this forum.
Great topic!
Tom
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57_Panhead
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tenbear wrote:
57 Panhead, glad you like the 36 LED boards

I never thought of it before, I don't have wedge base lights, but the wedge lights are probably polarity dependent. The BA15S bases have the positive on the center contact but the contacts on the wedge base are both the same. If the light doesn't work just turn the light over and it should work if I am right.


The polarity was not my problem, the contacts that wrap around the bottom of the wedge needed to be spread out to make contact with the socket contacts, once I figured out what the problem was it was all good. I really love the lights!!

Steve
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tenbear
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57 Panhead, glad you like the 36 LED boards

I never thought of it before, I don't have wedge base lights, but the wedge lights are probably polarity dependent. The BA15S bases have the positive on the center contact but the contacts on the wedge base are both the same. If the light doesn't work just turn the light over and it should work if I am right.
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57_Panhead
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Wow, got my LED lights today, the 36 led boards. Had to fiddle with the contacts on the flat 921 adapters to get some of them to work but they are all in and doing a great job. The light is a warm white like the bulbs they replaced and are at least as bright. I'm so pleased with them that I just ordered another 10 to finish the trailer. (Actually I need 12 but I will just use some of the round style I bought to test with.

Steve
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RFOneWatt
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Beware of some those cheap LED panels. I have had several fail after a few hours (or be DOA on arrival.) Obviously have a single LED dome light in your coach fail isn't a big deal but if you are doing other more important lights it might be worth it to you spend a few more dollars on a better quality product.

This company makes some amazing products and certainly have much better quality control than the E-Bay / Chinese sellers:

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U_P__BLDR
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westend wrote:
Wow, those look really bright, UP! I'm liking the look of your birch paneling, did you put any finish on it?


What's funny is that birch paneling is the cheapest plywood panel you can find here at $8.69 a sheet. I'm rolling on a coat of water based poly to both sides.
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westend
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Wow, those look really bright, UP! I'm liking the look of your birch paneling, did you put any finish on it?
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U_P__BLDR
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Thanks for this thread. I bought a dozen of the 48 smd led's for my Sunline. They're pretty bright and I'm pleased with the low power usage.


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NetBoy
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Dog Trainer wrote:
Now I need to replace the 1141 bulbs in the reading lights on each side of the bed. Any sugestions there.


Just get on eBay and search for: (1141,1156,ba15s) led

That will find all LED items that have either 1141 or 1156 or ba15s in the title.
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Dog_Trainer
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I just ordered 10 of the led 24 5050 SMD with the ba15s light range 300-3500. I think they will give off about as much light as the 36 1210. paid a little more for the 5050 but wanted the ba15s adapter. Now I need to replace the 1141 bulbs in the reading lights on each side of the bed. Any sugestions there.
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