Installing level indicators.

[swimmer_spe]

My trailer only has the side to side level indicator. It does not have the back to front level indicator. How hard is it to install one? Why would it only come with the one?

[3boxerss]

In a pinch If you have a smart phone there is a level with the compass. When you open the compass slide left and theres a level..

[Cocky_Camper]

Just an FYI, if you do use the stick on level indicators, make sure you screw them down too if heading down south. The southern sun and heat caused ours to eventually move a little, and they are no longer accurate. I'm sure that a screw would keep them more in place. We just use a three foot level on the floor.

[Ozlander]

Level the stove. It's the only thing that needs to be level if you want the cook to be happy.

[goducks10]

DutchmenSport wrote:
Agree! Most RV don't come with levels. To have one already is quite unique.

Where is level on an RV? Do you level by a shelf in the refrigerator, from the floor, from the walls, ceiling, stove top, inside of oven, counter top, tongue, frame. Every spot will give a different "level" point. You have to figure out what needs to be level and get the camper set there first, THEN add the leveler.

Modern RV refrigerators have a bit of tolerance built into them. You can be off some and they still work fine. So, what was most important to have "level" for us? Personally, I HATE having doors swing and cabinet doors swinging. When I open a door or a cabinet door, I want it to stay right there, and not swing open or closed, or move at all.

I found, the best place to level is the outside door frame. The door frame works great as it's square to the entire build of the camper, frame, floor, ceiling, cabinets, everything!

By turning a simple carpenter's to level side to side, and then front to back, I could get everything else level, including the refrigerator, counter tops, stove, and all the cabinet doors. Nothing swings open or closed, eggs don't slide off the skillet, and the water in the toilet bowel is level.

I use the same one on my 5th wheel. Once setup it's great.
If I could use the Andersen Levelers it would be even easier.

[drsteve]

myredracer wrote:

drsteve wrote:
I use one of these:

I had one of those and lost it a couple of years ago. Must have left it on the frame underneath.

Mine has a magnet the length of the edge. It has ridden hundreds of miles stuck to the A frame on more than one occasion...

[WA4HTZ]

Thanks for the answer, Sound Guy. Guess I'll go get that big guy because what I have now is no use from the driver's seat.

Ken

[krobbe]

I use the iHandy Level App on my iPhone.
It's simple and accurate. No cell service required.

[SoundGuy]

WA4HTZ wrote:
Sound Guy, how big was the Level Master you used? I was in an RV parts place today and they had a Level Master which proclaimed it was a 5th wheel level kit. The thing was huge! Must have been 8 or 10 inches wide. I think the guy in front of me on the road could have read it in his rear view mirror.:B

Yeah, 11" wide. The idea is you can see it from the driver's seat. 6" or 7" would be good if you're standing in front of it but I haven't found any that size so other than this Level Master they're all too small for me.

[WA4HTZ]

Sound Guy, how big was the Level Master you used? I was in an RV parts place today and they had a Level Master which proclaimed it was a 5th wheel level kit. The thing was huge! Must have been 8 or 10 inches wide. I think the guy in front of me on the road could have read it in his rear view mirror.:B

Ken

[myredracer]

drsteve wrote:
I use one of these:

I had one of those and lost it a couple of years ago. Must have left it on the frame underneath. It was fluorescent orange to make it more visible too, pffft. Replaced it with a yellow one and haven't lost that one. Color apparently matters.

My DW bought me a couple of those big Hopkins levels for Xmas a few years back. I was like "wow sweetheart, these things are great and always wanted them!!" They're still in the drawer beside my side of the bed... I'll probably install them one of these days when I run out of other more challenging/interesting/fun mods.

Used to have a bubble level on the top of a tongue jack on a previous TT. Worked just fine as I recall. Trailers don't have to be accurately level, esp. for fridges nowadays which can be somewhat out of level and still work properly.

Our bedroom door had an annoying habit of swinging open a lot if we weren't level or angled a tiny bit in the wrong direction. Cured that by installing a magnetic door stop.

[Travelon]

Jim2007 wrote:
I agree with dutchmansport. My 5th wheel does not have level indicators. I have been doing this for over 10 years and it works for me.?..Jim2007

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Travelon

[Jim2007]

I agree with dutchmansport. My 5th wheel does not have level indicators. I have been doing this for over 10 years and it works for me.?..Jim2007

[DutchmenSport]

Agree! Most RV don't come with levels. To have one already is quite unique.

Where is level on an RV? Do you level by a shelf in the refrigerator, from the floor, from the walls, ceiling, stove top, inside of oven, counter top, tongue, frame. Every spot will give a different "level" point. You have to figure out what needs to be level and get the camper set there first, THEN add the leveler.

Modern RV refrigerators have a bit of tolerance built into them. You can be off some and they still work fine. So, what was most important to have "level" for us? Personally, I HATE having doors swing and cabinet doors swinging. When I open a door or a cabinet door, I want it to stay right there, and not swing open or closed, or move at all.

I found, the best place to level is the outside door frame. The door frame works great as it's square to the entire build of the camper, frame, floor, ceiling, cabinets, everything!

By turning a simple carpenter's to level side to side, and then front to back, I could get everything else level, including the refrigerator, counter tops, stove, and all the cabinet doors. Nothing swings open or closed, eggs don't slide off the skillet, and the water in the toilet bowel is level.

[SoundGuy]

swimmer_spe wrote:
My trailer only has the side to side level indicator. It does not have the back to front level indicator. How hard is it to install one? Why would it only come with the one?

Lynnmor wrote:
Usually they have none.

Level the trailer side to side using spacers under the tires and front to back using the tongue jack. Use a large level on the frame, checking in multiple places and get the best average. Do not use the stabilizer jacks. When it is perfectly level, install the levels with screws or a good VHB tape, do not use the foam junk. I install two levels on opposite corners so I can see any twist.

I spent a bit more and installed this oversize level which includes both side-to-side and front-to-back, securing it to the trailer's front wall with LePages No More Nails super sticky tape ... in 4 yrs hasn't budged in the slightest. Installed high enough and the bubble can easily be seen from the TV's driver's seat. :B