Already have 1 Carlisle tire so???????

[chipster]

Had to repalce a tire last year as we had a blow out on stock tire. Not much choice when on the road for tires. Bought what I could find a Carlisle RADIAL TRAIL RH 225/75-15 Load range E. So at least I would still have a spare to do the rest of our trip. I know I've read some bad stuff about Carlise tires but this is a newer tire they have out or so I think. My question is Do I just buy 3 more of these used my old tire for emergency spare. Or Go out and buy 4 Maxxis tires and use Carlisle for spare:?

[Ric_Flair]

"Already have 1 Carlisle tire so???????"

So, make a tire swing out of it.

[RandACampin]

Bravo!

[rcpd34]

I just posted this on another, but similar, thread:

Bit of an update. I went to my tire distributor. He is a large distributor stocking millions of dollars of tires and also a full service tire installation center that does trailers every day. I showed him the thread and the other linked thread as well. He advised he will not put LT tires on a trailer. He also advised it is illegal. If a trailer comes to him for inspection without ST tires it will fail. He wasn't going to get drawn into a debate, but his first question after looking at the load ratings published in the thread was why would you give up load capability and sidewall strength? I also went by the local RV dealer and every new trailer I looked at on the lot had ST tires; NONE had LT. My position is do whatever you want on your own rig; we're all adults. I'm sticking with the ST's.

[RandACampin]

lincster wrote:

RandACampin wrote:
Carlisles turn hundreds of thousand if not millions of trouble-free miles every year. Carlise is one of the most prolific trailer tire brands out there. Some just want to sensationalize the few failures to cast STs in a bad light.

And there have been more than a FEW failures.
If you have spent any time with a toyhauler, which I doubt you have, you would understand the blow outs that have happened with ST tires over many years.

ST's probably work on 2000lb boat trailers or small utility trailers, but get a 16,000lb 5th wheel...... ST tires and big 5th wheel toy haulers are no joy.
Why do you think horse trailers and higher end 5th wheels come from the factory with LT tires.

Faulty argument. The size of trailer is moot. A load range C tire at 90% load on a travel trailer is no differnt than D or an E at 90% on a travel trailer of fifth wheel.

That "big heavy" fifth wheel argument is BS at best. A heavily loaded tire is a heavily loaded tire is....

The same low failure rate is reported across the board. When compared to the totals on the road it is very very small. People on here like to blow it way out of proportion.

[chipster]

Great input gang thanks. I don't have the option of going to a Lt as I'm not going to upgrade to a bigger rim. Although sounds like the Carlisle improved, I think I'll go with the maxis as my buddy gas been running them on the exact same trailer and about 6000 km and no issues. He's loaded to the max as well.

[CKNSLS]

lincster wrote:

CKNSLS wrote:

lincster wrote:

RandACampin wrote:
Carlisles turn hundreds of thousand if not millions of trouble-free miles every year. Carlise is one of the most prolific trailer tire brands out there. Some just want to sensationalize the few failures to cast STs in a bad light.

And there have been more than a FEW failures.
If you have spent any time with a toyhauler, which I doubt you have, you would understand the blow outs that have happened with ST tires over many years.

ST's probably work on 2000lb boat trailers or small utility trailers, but get a 16,000lb 5th wheel...... ST tires and big 5th wheel toy haulers are no joy.
Why do you think horse trailers and higher end 5th wheels come from the factory with LT tires.

In additon they were named a few seasons ago the offcicial tire for the Bass Anglers-these trailers have more miles put on them in a whole season that most weekend towers probably see in five years-

You just made my point for me. What does a Bass boat weigh? Maybe 5000lbs?

Toyhaulers should run the Michelin ribs, or LT tires. However, on lighter trailers Carlisles will run fine, as they now have the Nylon Cap like some of the more recommenced (but necessarily better) ST tires. I ran them form Orlando, FL, where I had them installed-up to Maine and back out to Utah without issue, on a lighter trailer.

[jgos929]

I just put a new set of Carlisles on my toy hauler not to long ago and so far so good. I got a warranty on them so if they blow I'll just get a new one for free lol.

[lincster]

CKNSLS wrote:

lincster wrote:

RandACampin wrote:
Carlisles turn hundreds of thousand if not millions of trouble-free miles every year. Carlise is one of the most prolific trailer tire brands out there. Some just want to sensationalize the few failures to cast STs in a bad light.

And there have been more than a FEW failures.
If you have spent any time with a toyhauler, which I doubt you have, you would understand the blow outs that have happened with ST tires over many years.

ST's probably work on 2000lb boat trailers or small utility trailers, but get a 16,000lb 5th wheel...... ST tires and big 5th wheel toy haulers are no joy.
Why do you think horse trailers and higher end 5th wheels come from the factory with LT tires.

In additon they were named a few seasons ago the offcicial tire for the Bass Anglers-these trailers have more miles put on them in a whole season that most weekend towers probably see in five years-

You just made my point for me. What does a Bass boat weigh? Maybe 5000lbs?

[CKNSLS]

lincster wrote:

RandACampin wrote:
Carlisles turn hundreds of thousand if not millions of trouble-free miles every year. Carlise is one of the most prolific trailer tire brands out there. Some just want to sensationalize the few failures to cast STs in a bad light.

And there have been more than a FEW failures.
If you have spent any time with a toyhauler, which I doubt you have, you would understand the blow outs that have happened with ST tires over many years.

ST's probably work on 2000lb boat trailers or small utility trailers, but get a 16,000lb 5th wheel...... ST tires and big 5th wheel toy haulers are no joy.
Why do you think horse trailers and higher end 5th wheels come from the factory with LT tires.

The failures for the post part don't include the new tires that have been out a little over two years.

New Tire
In additon they were named a few seasons ago the offcicial tire for the Bass Anglers-these trailers have more miles put on them in a whole season that most weekend towers probably see in five years-

even more education here

[lincster]

RandACampin wrote:
Carlisles turn hundreds of thousand if not millions of trouble-free miles every year. Carlise is one of the most prolific trailer tire brands out there. Some just want to sensationalize the few failures to cast STs in a bad light.

And there have been more than a FEW failures.
If you have spent any time with a toyhauler, which I doubt you have, you would understand the blow outs that have happened with ST tires over many years.

ST's probably work on 2000lb boat trailers or small utility trailers, but get a 16,000lb 5th wheel...... ST tires and big 5th wheel toy haulers are no joy.
Why do you think horse trailers and higher end 5th wheels come from the factory with LT tires.

[chipster]

flat_twin wrote:
Chipster, I've had bad luck with Carlisle tires too. Two blowouts in one trip to the western US. I suppose I would hang onto the new Carlisle as a spare and hope you never have to use it.
I just purchased four Maxxis 8008's in your size for $104 ea.


http://www.onlinetires.com/search/vehicle/tires/maxxis/6026/all_prices/all_sizes/all_tires/all_speeds/page_1.html

Shipping to Ohio was $22. Not sure how that might work out for someone north of the border but it was the best price I found.
The tires arrived three days later and had a good mfg date. 3513.
Once the weather breaks I'll pull the wheels and take them to my local mechanic.

Just checked this site out and it was
Subtotal: $418.48
Shipping & Handling: $92.62
Tax: $0.00

TOTAL: $511.10

Shipped to Detroit, Michigan. I can get these installed for $556 at discount, so not worth buying them online. But thanks for the tip.

[mustangglp]

CKNSLS wrote:

mustangglp wrote:
I two blow out on my utility trailer that never had more then 2000pounds on it while it was setting! Oh yea they were about 5 years old.
I have old box trailer with car tires that are at least 30 years old that hold air just fine !
How they are aloud to keep selling unsafe safe tires is beyond stupid!
Gary

Yea-Unbelievable in more ways than one.

Not so much I took pictures! keep buy the******do you want see the pictures of China bomb or the 30 year old car tire I think the car tires easily pre date date coding on tires!
I just went out and looked the car tires are Montgomery wards made in the USA so good luck buying them!

[kedanie]

CKNSLS wrote:

Yep, that's clear logic. The truth of the matter is for Carlisle it has made a difference. All initial reports say so.

Guys have had Maxxis blow out on this board as well. To hear others speak they are a great tire. But as the number of users go up so do the blowouts!

Unfortunately, basing ones claims from use on small TT's and boat trailers combined with running at 55MPH would tend to skew the results. Most on this thread have much bigger and heavier RV's. Carlisle's past efforts have left most reluctant to drink their kool-aide

The jury is clearly still out.

Keith

[CKNSLS]

kedanie wrote:
That nylon cap ply that the Carlisle proponents like like to brag about was introduced many years ago in Goodyear's Marathon tire and Towmax did the same thing recently. From what I have heard, it hasn't made a tremendous difference in the failure rate with those tires. So, I wouldn't expect it to do much for the Carlisle tire either.

Keith

Yep, that's clear logic. The truth of the matter is for Carlisle it has made a difference. All initial reports say so.

Guys have had Maxxis blow out on this board as well. To hear others speak they are a great tire. But as the number of users go up so do the blowouts!

[RandACampin]

Carlisles turn hundreds of thousand if not millions of trouble-free miles every year. Carlise is one of the most prolific trailer tire brands out there. Some just want to sensationalize the few failures to cast STs in a bad light.