Another Salesman lied

[Fire19]

Well the same old story talk to the trailer salesman oh Yes you have a 2000 Ford F350 Dually Diesel you have plenty of truck. Well I have always wondered if my truck was really rated for the 5th wheel that I have been pulling around for 4 years. Well there was no weight sticker on the trailer when I got it because it was bleached out and I looked on line data (Which is way off now that I have had the trailer weighed)Listed weight for GVWR at 12,300lb and Dry weight@ 9,000lb.

Well on the way home from Camping this last went by a weight scale at Flying J and boy the numbers are way off. The total rig weight with the family and the dog in it with no water in it is 21,400lb puts the trailer at 13,600lb 1,300lb over brochure weight:M well according a fifth wheel weight calculator I am fine with the following exceptions Truck GVW over by 240lb and Truck GCW over 1,440lb. The truck pulls fine and have not had any problems for the four years we have pulled I did add Air bags on the truck to take the sag out.

total weights from Cat Scale

Steer Axle 4,980lb Limits form Ford Sticker on Door Post 5,200lb
Drive Axle 6,460lb Limits form Ford Sticker on Door Post 8,250lb
Trailer Axle 10,000lb
Gross weight 21,440lb
Truck Weight with passengers is 8,105lb

Just to remind you have to weigh your rigs because salesman's and product brochures may be way off.

[htowners]

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[ol_Bombero-JC]

bobx2 wrote:

drfife wrote:

JIMNLIN wrote:
Looks like the salesman didn't lie to anyone. The rig handles fine for 4 years and your under the trucks legal weight specs so enjoy your rig.

I agree.

For 4 years the lashup performed well and was within specs.

Nobody lied. Everything is fine.

Thread should be closed.

You think the thread should be closed why??? Everyone is entitled to state their opinions on this topic.

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And his *OPINION* is - the thread should be closed..:S




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[drfife]

bobx2 wrote:
You think the thread should be closed why??? Everyone is entitled to state their opinions on this topic.

Because it's like beating a dead horse.

[bobx2]

drfife wrote:

JIMNLIN wrote:
Looks like the salesman didn't lie to anyone. The rig handles fine for 4 years and your under the trucks legal weight specs so enjoy your rig.

I agree.

For 4 years the lashup performed well and was within specs.

Nobody lied. Everything is fine.

Thread should be closed.

You think the thread should be closed why??? Everyone is entitled to state their opinions on this topic.

[drfife]

JIMNLIN wrote:
Looks like the salesman didn't lie to anyone. The rig handles fine for 4 years and your under the trucks legal weight specs so enjoy your rig.

I agree.

For 4 years the lashup performed well and was within specs.

Nobody lied. Everything is fine.

Thread should be closed.

[JIMNLIN]

Looks like the salesman didn't lie to anyone. The rig handles fine for 4 years and your under the trucks legal weight specs so enjoy your rig.

[GregK]

When did the trailer manufacturers start putting all of the specs inside of a cabinet? Did you look in the cabinets for the spec sheet?

[jujububbajr]

rtazz17 wrote:

Stefan wrote:
When does the Onus fall on US to do our homework and know what we can tow, then research what we want to buy.
Frankly it is the purchasers fault not the salesmans for this oversight.
When you buy a house do you believe the realtor that it is a good house, or do you get your own inspection done??

I agree with this statement 100 percent.Whatever you are buying in life especially a major purchase the buyer needs to beware.Salesman is there to sell.He will tell you what you want to hear.Stop blaming the salesman.Owners/buyers responsibility to know what they are buying.A salesman does not know your door sticker either.

Yes.

[rtazz17]

Stefan wrote:
When does the Onus fall on US to do our homework and know what we can tow, then research what we want to buy.
Frankly it is the purchasers fault not the salesmans for this oversight.
When you buy a house do you believe the realtor that it is a good house, or do you get your own inspection done??

I agree with this statement 100 percent.Whatever you are buying in life especially a major purchase the buyer needs to beware.Salesman is there to sell.He will tell you what you want to hear.Stop blaming the salesman.Owners/buyers responsibility to know what they are buying.A salesman does not know your door sticker either.

[mark1228]

Fire19 wrote:
Well the same old story talk to the trailer salesman oh Yes you have a 2000 Ford F350 Dually Diesel you have plenty of truck. Well I have always wondered if my truck was really rated for the 5th wheel that I have been pulling around for 4 years. Well there was no weight sticker on the trailer when I got it because it was bleached out and I looked on line data (Which is way off now that I have had the trailer weighed)Listed weight for GVWR at 12,300lb and Dry weight@ 9,000lb.

Well on the way home from Camping this last went by a weight scale at Flying J and boy the numbers are way off. The total rig weight with the family and the dog in it with no water in it is 21,400lb puts the trailer at 13,600lb 1,300lb over brochure weight:M well according a fifth wheel weight calculator I am fine with the following exceptions Truck GVW over by 240lb and Truck GCW over 1,440lb. The truck pulls fine and have not had any problems for the four years we have pulled I did add Air bags on the truck to take the sag out.

total weights from Cat Scale

Steer Axle 4,980lb Limits form Ford Sticker on Door Post 5,200lb
Drive Axle 6,460lb Limits form Ford Sticker on Door Post 8,250lb
Trailer Axle 10,000lb
Gross weight 21,440lb
Truck Weight with passengers is 8,105lb

Just to remind you have to weigh your rigs because salesman's and product brochures may be way off.

I'm not following you here. How exactly did the salesman lie to you? You say the sticker was not legible and the brochure weights were not accurate. Where do you expect him to get his information? Is he supposed to take each trailer he sells over a scale? You said thay he told you that you had enough truck and then later in your post you say that your truck has been handling it fine for FOUR YEARS. Why blast the sales guy here?

[camp_monkey]

Say it isn't so, a sales man who doesn't know what they're talking about? Quick story, I wanted the GVWR of my grandpa's fiver and couldn't get the right numbers out of him. I found the exact same model on a dealer's website. Emailed them and the sales guy told me the GVWR, which he then followed up with he had no idea what GVWR meant.

[mich800]

Fire19 wrote:
Since the GVWR was off by 1,800lb I guess the dry weight should be around 11,800 but this fall I will know the weight of the dry rig when I take it to storage I will drive by the scale again.

I guess maybe I am a little confused. Is the GVWR higher than you originally thought or have you overloaded the trailer and are exceeding the GVWR?

Never mind. I see your earlier post. The actual GVWR is higher than originally thought.

[kcmoedoe]

How is a salesperson supposed to know the exact towing capacities of a 15 year old truck? I am sure it will vary by options. Same with a fifth wheel that you admit had a weight plate so faded it couldn't be read. And how many threads have been written about how the maximum loaded weight rating of RVs is much less than they actually weigh when you put all your gear in them. The salesman could have been right on.

[timmac]

Fire19 wrote:
Well the same old story talk to the trailer salesman oh Yes you have a 2000 Ford F350 Dually Diesel you have plenty of truck.

I don't think the salesman lied here, you have a year 2000 F350 dually 1 ton with a diesel, seems like the best truck for towing a 5th wheel to me, now if you had a 1/2 or 3/4 ton gas than he might have been a liar..