Anyone towing a Elite / Mobile Suites with a 1 ton

[bigdon68]

We are getting very close to buying a 2016 DRV Elite Suites. The model is the 38 RSSA with a dry weight of 16,300 and a GVWR of 19,000.

It is pretty close to what I am towing now but I understand that DRV's tend to have some heavy pin weight.

Any advice or opinions would be appreciated.

Thanks

bigdon68

[NC_Hauler]

blofgren wrote:


The 2013 and up Megacab dually has the same weight ratings (axles and GVWR) as the long box crew cab dually. Prior Mega dually trucks were rated considerably lower for some reason which is one of the reasons I went with the 2013. I'm quite happy with my choice. :B

GVWR HAS been the same since, at least 2012-2013, maybe back to 2010. ...GCWR's can be different depending on gearing.

What "normally" caused "LESS PAYLOAD" with the Mega Cab was because it is normally heavier than a CrewCab, thus same GVWR, but less payload rating due to truck being heavier, comparing like trim level trucks

[blofgren]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Obewan wrote:
I have a 2015 Mobile Suites upgraded to an Elite but without the glass roof, 44 Lafayette. Loaded with supplies for 1 person, full H2O, it was weighed at 19,800lbs with 4000lbs pin weight. I tow with a Ram 3500 but it was purchased with max towing capacity, diesel, Aisin tranny,etc. If I remember correctly, the base 3500 did not have enough cargo capacity for the pin weight. There is a lot of variations/options possible which means we'd need to know the specifics of the truck intended.

If you mean base as in 3500 SRW I would agree but all the 3500 DRW's have 9,750# rear axle rating.

Obewan's signature;

2015 DRV Mobile Suites 44 Lafayette Walden
2014 Ram Laramie 3500 dually

Thanks! I did know that. This is what I was commenting on.

" If I remember correctly, the base 3500 did not have enough cargo capacity for the pin weight"

I was not sure if he meant 3500SRW as a base model, I was more thinking he thought there were several weight ratings for the dually's. I clarified that all 3500 Dually's have 9,750# rear axle rating not just some. Now that I say that I don't remember if the MegaCab Dually has the same rating??? Seems like the newer ones do.

The 2013 and up Megacab dually has the same weight ratings (axles and GVWR) as the long box crew cab dually. Prior Mega dually trucks were rated considerably lower for some reason which is one of the reasons I went with the 2013. I'm quite happy with my choice. :B

[Cummins12V98]

transamz9 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Me Again wrote:
Maybe he meant low gears and Aisin Tranny. 4:10's and the Aisin is the way to go towing heavy. Snoking

I am thinking so.

Although my "Max" trailer weight with the 3.42:1 gears is 17,000 I assure you it has zero issues towing 20,000# behind the truck. Hills,mountains,back roads or anything. Will more heat build up in the 3.42's? Sure it will but if you don't tow 500 miles straight in the mountains they hold up just fine. I like the high gears because when not towing I can bust down some crazy fuel mileage.

65K towing with 68RFE and 3.42's ZERO issues, thats towing a combined 29K. Only negative was starting on a grade you had to ease into it til you got rolling. That said the Aisin and 3.42's are far superior getting the load rolling. Add the 4.10' and it's nite and day difference.

29K combined in pic. 11 HO 3.42's 68RFE.

[transamz9]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Me Again wrote:
Maybe he meant low gears and Aisin Tranny. 4:10's and the Aisin is the way to go towing heavy. Snoking

I am thinking so.

Although my "Max" trailer weight with the 3.42:1 gears is 17,000 I assure you it has zero issues towing 20,000# behind the truck. Hills,mountains,back roads or anything. Will more heat build up in the 3.42's? Sure it will but if you don't tow 500 miles straight in the mountains they hold up just fine. I like the high gears because when not towing I can bust down some crazy fuel mileage.

[Cummins12V98]

Me Again wrote:
Maybe he meant low gears and Aisin Tranny. 4:10's and the Aisin is the way to go towing heavy. Snoking

I am thinking so.

[Cummins12V98]

rhagfo wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Obewan wrote:
I have a 2015 Mobile Suites upgraded to an Elite but without the glass roof, 44 Lafayette. Loaded with supplies for 1 person, full H2O, it was weighed at 19,800lbs with 4000lbs pin weight. I tow with a Ram 3500 but it was purchased with max towing capacity, diesel, Aisin tranny,etc. If I remember correctly, the base 3500 did not have enough cargo capacity for the pin weight. There is a lot of variations/options possible which means we'd need to know the specifics of the truck intended.

If you mean base as in 3500 SRW I would agree but all the 3500 DRW's have 9,750# rear axle rating.

Obewan's signature;

2015 DRV Mobile Suites 44 Lafayette Walden
2014 Ram Laramie 3500 dually

Thanks! I did know that. This is what I was commenting on.

" If I remember correctly, the base 3500 did not have enough cargo capacity for the pin weight"

I was not sure if he meant 3500SRW as a base model, I was more thinking he thought there were several weight ratings for the dually's. I clarified that all 3500 Dually's have 9,750# rear axle rating not just some. Now that I say that I don't remember if the MegaCab Dually has the same rating??? Seems like the newer ones do.

[Me_Again]

Maybe he meant low gears and Aisin Tranny. 4:10's and the Aisin is the way to go towing heavy. Snoking

[rhagfo]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Obewan wrote:
I have a 2015 Mobile Suites upgraded to an Elite but without the glass roof, 44 Lafayette. Loaded with supplies for 1 person, full H2O, it was weighed at 19,800lbs with 4000lbs pin weight. I tow with a Ram 3500 but it was purchased with max towing capacity, diesel, Aisin tranny,etc. If I remember correctly, the base 3500 did not have enough cargo capacity for the pin weight. There is a lot of variations/options possible which means we'd need to know the specifics of the truck intended.

If you mean base as in 3500 SRW I would agree but all the 3500 DRW's have 9,750# rear axle rating.

Obewan's signature;

2015 DRV Mobile Suites 44 Lafayette Walden
2014 Ram Laramie 3500 dually

[Cummins12V98]

Obewan wrote:
I have a 2015 Mobile Suites upgraded to an Elite but without the glass roof, 44 Lafayette. Loaded with supplies for 1 person, full H2O, it was weighed at 19,800lbs with 4000lbs pin weight. I tow with a Ram 3500 but it was purchased with max towing capacity, diesel, Aisin tranny,etc. If I remember correctly, the base 3500 did not have enough cargo capacity for the pin weight. There is a lot of variations/options possible which means we'd need to know the specifics of the truck intended.

If you mean base as in 3500 SRW I would agree but all the 3500 DRW's have 9,750# rear axle rating.

[Obewan]

I have a 2015 Mobile Suites upgraded to an Elite but without the glass roof, 44 Lafayette. Loaded with supplies for 1 person, full H2O, it was weighed at 19,800lbs with 4000lbs pin weight. I tow with a Ram 3500 but it was purchased with max towing capacity, diesel, Aisin tranny,etc. If I remember correctly, the base 3500 did not have enough cargo capacity for the pin weight. There is a lot of variations/options possible which means we'd need to know the specifics of the truck intended.

[Old-Biscuit]

Not only is OPs truck a 2008 SRW he also has an aux fuel tank mounted in bed of truck.

Too much trailer..........

[Cummins12V98]

justme wrote:
I pull a 16500 gvw with a f350 srw which is max for that truck. Any thing heavier needs a F350 DRW min and I would go for the F450 because it is built to be a DRW because its frame, brakes, and axels. However, the 2017 F350/450 have aluminum bodies, more powerful engines and stronger frames with larger brakes.

Personally would not worry about it but the F450 only has a 9,100# RAWR.

[justme]

I pull a 16500 gvw with a f350 srw which is max for that truck. Any thing heavier needs a F350 DRW min and I would go for the F450 because it is built to be a DRW because its frame, brakes, and axels. However, the 2017 F350/450 have aluminum bodies, more powerful engines and stronger frames with larger brakes.

[Luke_Porter]

I have a 41' Elite, Dry 17, GVW 21. Pull with a Duramax Dually. Have NO problems. Before that, had a 38' Newmar Dually, GVW 20. Pulled that well over 200K miles with Duramax Duallys (and that one Dodge). NO problems.

I would never consider a SRW.