joebedford wrote: Didn't LCI stop making the tri glide?
This is what they are offering know. Looks like it is similar to the triglide with less maintenance requirement and most likely a good solution as well. At least it addresses the chucking problem correctly.
Here is the root cause of chucking for those who are in tune with physics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damping_ratio
The trick is to create a criticall damped senerio between your truck and trailer. The best way is an TrailAir Triglide set up. The MorRyde is a second alternative. Minimized spring bounce on trailer and truck with improved shocks provide minimal critical dampening between the truck and trailer and is not as effective.
Please folks investigate on the Inet what causes chucking before you espouse your theory and cures. Investigation and some knowledge of physics is required so this discussion can be meaningful. Many times these types of discussions get convoluted and end up confusing. This subject is not that complicated but some how ends up that way. Also, it would be helpful to show a link supporting your theory/cure. Otherwise it could be taken as a "wise tale."
Old-Biscuit wrote: Light pin weight will cause chucking
Nose High towing can cause chucking
To much clearance between hitch jaws and king pin (slop) can cause chucking
I have a question for you. In your opinion what is chucking. I have towed 5th wheels since '05 all over the northern part of this country and do not believe we have any chucking. Porpoising, as in up and down, yes, but no front to back in the pin connection. Thanks.
2018 Ram 3500 SRW CC LB 6.7L Cummins Auto 3.42 gears 2018 Grand Design 337RLS
I had some chucking with what should have been a chuck-proof setup: F350 long-bed, B&W Companion hitch, Arctic Fox fiver (heavy pin weight, shocks, Mor-Ryde pin box), leveled. The culprit turned out to be that two of the clamps securing the hitch to the Ford pucks were a bit too loose. Tightened the castelated nuts one notch further and that cured the problem.
neal10a wrote: Chucking can only be minimized and not eliminated. A properly inflated air spring/shock with a rubberized shock absorber like TrailAir offers has proven to be the best way to minimize it. I don't understand how these discussion evolve into pseudo physics.
Cushioned pin boxes and hitches don't address the "Root Cause" of the chucking just mask it. Pin box or hitch should be the last step not the first. We have fixed the ride of the 5er, and have near zero chucking, only on some bad bridge surfaces.
Russ & Paula the Beagle Belle. 2016 Ram Laramie 3500 Aisin DRW 4X4 Long bed. 2005 Copper Canyon 293 FWSLS, 32' GVWR 12,360#
Recently I have read lots of posts on towing 5th wheels. many different experiences. I really appreciate reading them, and remedies that worked to solve negative issues and remedies that did not. I am especially impressed by those posts that acknowledge a given solution does not work for every situation. Thanks for the many constructive posts.
eHoefler wrote: Most chucking, if not all, can be prevented by moving the center of hitch forward of the axle. With short bed trucks, the tendency is to mount the fifthwheel directly on or behind the center axle. I have never experienced chucking in my own trucks. I have installed all my hitches 1"-2" forward of rear axle. I will never own a truck to pull a fifthwheel with a short bed.
I have a long bed.
1997 Dodge 4x4, 5 spd manual trans & HotRod 5.9 cummins. With '85 Lance.
I fought 5th wheel "chucking" for several months. Lots of opinions and remedies out there. I tried leveling the trailer, adding pin weight, Bilstein shocks on my truck, etc. Finally I installed a MORryde shock absorbing pinbox and it made a huge difference. I won't own another 5ver without a MORryde or similar shock absorbing pinbox. It doesn't elimate the chucking but dampens and softens the jerking motion enough that I hardly notice it.
Chucking can only be minimized and not eliminated. A properly inflated air spring/shock with a rubberized shock absorber like TrailAir offers has proven to be the best way to minimize it. I don't understand how these discussion evolve into pseudo physics.
