Dual rear wheel or single rear wheel?

[fhedrickjr]

Hello all!! Brand new here to the forum. I have just purchased and brought home our new 5th wheel(with a buddies truck)and I am getting mixed reviews on which setup to get. Our 5th wheel is a Palomino Columbus 42" 7" 2,600 tongue weight,13,300 "dry", 16,600 +- laden. I have my eye on a '17 RAM 3500 4x4 with the 6' 4" box, SRW, with the Cummins 6.7. I have had several people tell me I NEED a Dually, it will ride better and be more stable, which makes sense but, is it really "necessary"? I am not ready for a DRW due to reasons of my own, however, if I am kidding myself, I would like to hear it from others who tow 5th wheels. Thanks!

[Campinghoss]

Wild Card wrote:

nayther wrote:
Those that live "in the country" or don't use their truck for a daily driver always sit back and harp on DW long bed trucks. They are virtually undriveable in a big city. We live in suburban L.A. and I would NEVER attempt to drive a dually long bed in downtown

I drive my long bed dually in the city all the time. Really not a big deal.

You should attempt it

Agree. I drive mine in Chesapeake and Norfolk traffic whenever I want too.

As far as the newer models having higher towing capacity I agree. However the towing capacity has nothing to do with the stability of a drw vs a srw regardless of towing capacity.

[Wild_Card]

nayther wrote:
Those that live "in the country" or don't use their truck for a daily driver always sit back and harp on DW long bed trucks. They are virtually undriveable in a big city. We live in suburban L.A. and I would NEVER attempt to drive a dually long bed in downtown

I drive my long bed dually in the city all the time. Really not a big deal.

You should attempt it

[nayther]

Those that live "in the country" or don't use their truck for a daily driver always sit back and harp on DW long bed trucks. They are virtually undriveable in a big city. We live in suburban L.A. and I would NEVER attempt to drive a dually long bed in downtown

[ford_truck_guy]

The NEWER Generation SRW's are much more capable of towing larger pin weights.. Here is my "15" SRW with my "16" Redwood... I am at 15,960# loaded for max trip with a pin of 3,180#





IF and WHEN I start towing more than a weekend warrior, I will jump into a DRW

[Hammerboy]

"First, no matter if you get a single wheel or dully, get a 8 foot bed. Then buy you a air hitch. I have a 25k airsafe hitch for over 11 years and love it. My second choice is a Hensley air hitch. No matter which brand you buy, make sure it has the Binkley Holland Head. "


If I had a longbed and a crew cab, I would not be able to park in the garage. Crew cab trumps long bed.

Dan

[handsome51]

First, no matter if you get a single wheel or dully, get a 8 foot bed. Then buy you a air hitch. I have a 25k airsafe hitch for over 11 years and love it. My second choice is a Hensley air hitch. No matter which brand you buy, make sure it has the Binkley Holland Head.

[Learjet]

Me Again wrote:

Learjet wrote:
my signature truck is rated right at 25,000 lbs with the 3.73 gears... payload on door sticker 5,452 lbs.

You need a larger trailer!!!

Ha! been fighting that battle for years...LOL...you know...new trailer...not enough truck...new truck...more truck then trailer...then 5th wheel...not enough truck...then new truck....lesson...buy enough truck...LOL...more truck = Fun and Safety 🙂

[Me_Again]

Learjet wrote:
my signature truck is rated right at 25,000 lbs with the 3.73 gears... payload on door sticker 5,452 lbs.

You need a larger trailer!!!

[Learjet]

my signature truck is rated right at 25,000 lbs with the 3.73 gears... payload on door sticker 5,452 lbs.

[Me_Again]

fhedrickjr wrote:
Thanks to all for your input! I see the big difference when I look at the rear axle weight ratings: 7k on the SRW and 9,750 on the DRW. What has me scratching my head though, is the SRW I am looking at (3.42 gears)is rated to tow 17,150 with a payload of 4,020, while the dually I am looking at (3.73 gears) has a tow rating of 16,800 and a payload of 4,270. By the way, I updated my profile page with dimensions and weights for the Columbus.

So are you going to see the USA or go South in the fall and North in the spring?

You want a RAM with the Aisin automatic, not the 68RFE RAM tranny, especially with the SRW 3.42. The Aisin has a lower 1st and 2nd gear to get a load moving.

The numbers you posted to not match any I can find. So more details on the trucks you looking at. The listed CC in the charts is for low trim levels.
Example my Laramie is around 300 pounds less that the 3920 on the chart.

[ken_burke]

fhedrickjr wrote:
Hello all!! Brand new here to the forum. I have just purchased and brought home our new 5th wheel(with a buddies truck)and I am getting mixed reviews on which setup to get. Our 5th wheel is a Palomino Columbus 42" 7" 2,600 tongue weight,13,300 "dry", 16,600 +- laden. I have my eye on a '17 RAM 3500 4x4 with the 6' 4" box, SRW, with the Cummins 6.7. I have had several people tell me I NEED a Dually, it will ride better and be more stable, which makes sense but, is it really "necessary"? I am not ready for a DRW due to reasons of my own, however, if I am kidding myself, I would like to hear it from others who tow 5th wheels. Thanks!

We have a swr Ford f350, and the truck pulls the heavy 5th wheel with no problem (15,000 pounds). Glad we didn't get a dully.

[ken_burke]

fhedrickjr wrote:
Hello all!! Brand new here to the forum. I have just purchased and brought home our new 5th wheel(with a buddies truck)and I am getting mixed reviews on which setup to get. Our 5th wheel is a Palomino Columbus 42" 7" 2,600 tongue weight,13,300 "dry", 16,600 +- laden. I have my eye on a '17 RAM 3500 4x4 with the 6' 4" box, SRW, with the Cummins 6.7. I have had several people tell me I NEED a Dually, it will ride better and be more stable, which makes sense but, is it really "necessary"? I am not ready for a DRW due to reasons of my own, however, if I am kidding myself, I would like to hear it from others who tow 5th wheels. Thanks!

We faced the same discussion, and chose the SRW. Our 5th wheel is in excess of 15,000 #s, and the real single wheels work out fine. Glad that we didn't get the dually.
Our 350 Ford has no problems with the heavy 5th wheel.

[fhedrickjr]

Thanks to all for your input! I see the big difference when I look at the rear axle weight ratings: 7k on the SRW and 9,750 on the DRW. What has me scratching my head though, is the SRW I am looking at (3.42 gears)is rated to tow 17,150 with a payload of 4,020, while the dually I am looking at (3.73 gears) has a tow rating of 16,800 and a payload of 4,270. By the way, I updated my profile page with dimensions and weights for the Columbus.

[Cummins12V98]

Yea I was carrying a SouthBend clutch pressure plate n flywheel that put me over!

[Me_Again]

Wild Card wrote:

buc1980 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
" The tires on my SRW 3500 are rated to 3640 pounds each or 1110 more capacity on the front axle. I would worry more about the front tires on a dually than I would the rear tires on a SRW."

I tow heavier than most and my CAT Scale front axle is still below my FAWR of 6K and the tires capacity combined total of 6,170#. I don't see this being an issue.

That to much for SRW and then the axle is overload too.

The quotes are messed up. He has a dually

And his is over his 9750 RGAWR rating and I am not over my 7K RGAWR!!!! So here!

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