E or F rated tires

[mrad]

My 2015 toy hauler I bought last October is due for new Tires. I am guessing it has the originals on, and even though they look almost new, I don't want to risk an issue. The tires that are on it now are E-rated, 3,400lbs per tire and I have a triple axle. GVW of the Rig is 20,0000.

I did one pull with it last fall that was a 400-mile round trip. Winds were gusty at 30mph+. the rig towed great. Minimal to no sway. Because of this, I am inclined to stay with the E-rated tires. They are about $50 a tire less. However, I am curious if the stiffer sidewalls in the F rated tires would have better performance in high side winds, or should I go with the F-rated just to get the added strength/quality?

[Cummins12V98]

mrad wrote:
I ordered the Goodyear Endurance tires on the way home from work today before reading any of today's posts.
I had not looked at the Michelins or the Sailuns. My local small town tires shop quoted me at $156 per tire. I asked if they were sure they had the right tire/quote? They assured me they did. Tirerack wanted $175 per tire

Good call!!! You will not be disappointed.

[Cummins12V98]

cummins2014 wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
"the Endurance has a much better track record then then other Goodyear trailer tires"

I will go one step further, the GY ENDURANCE has a better track record than any Trailer Tire.

Well, thats a stretch, just the fact of their longevity ,doesn't fit that category. IMO overall the Sailun is the best ,and most dependable . I had what was determined a road hazard failure with a Sailun, as far as blowouts I am sure there has been some blowouts with Sailuns, as well as the Goodyear Endurance . Just because we don't hear or read about them ,doesn't mean it hasn't happened .

Let’s be honest here. I have claimed there have been ZERO non road hazards on the ENDURANCE. If there had been someone surely have proven me wrong by now.

All I heard before was “they have not been on the market long enough”. Now all I get is “the tread is too thin at 8/32” “.

I have never said one bad word about Sailun tires. What I don’t like is supporting Communist China when I have US choices or other free Country.

[memtb]

Another vote for G’s! I’m running 17.5” H’s on my triple axle , 20 K rig! Nothing like peace of mind when dragging around a big, heavy rig! memtb

[mrad]

I ordered the Goodyear Endurance tires on the way home from work today before reading any of today's posts.
I had not looked at the Michelins or the Sailuns. My local small town tires shop quoted me at $156 per tire. I asked if they were sure they had the right tire/quote? They assured me they did. Tirerack wanted $175 per tire

[bobsallyh]

I have run Michelin XPS Ribs since 2007 on our triple axle fiver fulltiming. E load range, they are pricey, but have given excellent service. Michelin or Saliums would be my tire choice.

[JIMNLIN]

I did one pull with it last fall that was a 400-mile round trip. Winds were gusty at 30mph+. the rig towed great. Minimal to no sway. Because of this, I am inclined to stay with the E-rated tires. They are about $50 a tire less. However, I am curious if the stiffer sidewalls in the F rated tires would have better performance in high side winds, or should I go with the F-rated just to get the added strength/quality?

Agree its time for new tires.
I would stick with a good ST load E tire on that triaxle. If the trailer has a 20k GVWR. Even at full 20000 lbs = around 4000 lbs of pin weight which leaves around 16k on the axles....or around 2600-2800 lbs per tire.
You sure don't need a load G tire at 4080 lbs per tire/110 psi. Load G tires are better suited for trailers with 3500 lbs plus load per tire.

The 16" Provider ST load E tires from Taskmaster....One of the first ST class tires with the new higher speed rating came out in the 2010 era on commercial trailers and proved to be a good tire for shorter mileage haulers (30k-40k miles).

If your trailer has 6k axles then the commercial grade all steel ply carcass Bridgstone R-250 or the higher price Michelin XPS Rib both in a LT235/85-16 E with give the trailer 18252 lbs capacity. These tires with their thicker tread depth are running 50k-60k miles on trailers.

Much depends on your trailers axle rating and loads per tire.

[cummins2014]

Cummins12V98 wrote:
"the Endurance has a much better track record then then other Goodyear trailer tires"

I will go one step further, the GY ENDURANCE has a better track record than any Trailer Tire.

Well, thats a stretch, just the fact of their longevity ,doesn't fit that category. IMO overall the Sailun is the best ,and most dependable . I had what was determined a road hazard failure with a Sailun, as far as blowouts I am sure there has been some blowouts with Sailuns, as well as the Goodyear Endurance . Just because we don't hear or read about them ,doesn't mean it hasn't happened .

[Cummins12V98]

"the Endurance has a much better track record then then other Goodyear trailer tires"

I will go one step further, the GY ENDURANCE has a better track record than any Trailer Tire.

[jdb7566]

guidry wrote:
My suggestion is G rated tires. Less chance of a blowout and higher load rating.

I agree. I had a 2006 Jayco Designer that came with Goodyear tires with a G rating.

[cummins2014]

fj12ryder wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
My 2010 Fuzion triple axle toyhauler's GVWR is 18,000 lbs. and I have the Sailun G rated tires on it, which replace the horrible OEM tires. I've considered going to an E-rated LT tire, but I can buy G-rated Sailun tires for less than the LT tires.

I've weighed each wheel separately and have a max of 2700 lbs. on two tires, and the other 4 are 2500 lbs. or less. I run the G-rated Sailun tires at 90 psi, which gives me 3300 lbs./tire carrying capacity.

Why do you think the F-rated tire sidewalls will be stiffer than the E-rated? And if they were, that could easily result in a very rough ride. My thought would be if it ain't broke, don't fix it. 🙂 That's assuming, of course, you can find a good E-rated ST tire.

You don’t consider the GY ENDURANCE a good tire?

There have been no instances that I know of where a Goodyear Endurance tires has failed. That is an excellent track record. The only thing I have against them is the very thin tread. If you put a lot of miles on your tires, then you could be looking at new tires around 20,000 miles. That's pretty poor life expectancy, IMO. However, that being said, most people don't put that many miles on their trailers, and, for them, they could be a very good tire.

I have no personal experience with them, so cannot speak from personal experience. Only what I've read about them, and that has been very good. They seem to be right up there with the Sailun, quality-wise. 🙂

To me comparing a 20K tire to the Sailuns in quality is a stretch. Although I do agree , the Endurance has a much better track record then then other Goodyear trailer tires .

[cummins2014]

fj12ryder wrote:
My 2010 Fuzion triple axle toyhauler's GVWR is 18,000 lbs. and I have the Sailun G rated tires on it, which replace the horrible OEM tires. I've considered going to an E-rated LT tire, but I can buy G-rated Sailun tires for less than the LT tires.

I've weighed each wheel separately and have a max of 2700 lbs. on two tires, and the other 4 are 2500 lbs. or less. I run the G-rated Sailun tires at 90 psi, which gives me 3300 lbs./tire carrying capacity.

Why do you think the F-rated tire sidewalls will be stiffer than the E-rated? And if they were, that could easily result in a very rough ride. My thought would be if it ain't broke, don't fix it. 🙂 That's assuming, of course, you can find a good E-rated ST tire.

According to the Load and Inflation chart sent to me by Alan Eagleson a Saliun Rep, 90 psi is 3640 lbs. for the ST235/80/16 Sailun S637, and 3860 lbs for the ST 235/85/16.

You could go down to 70-75 psi to maintain close to the 3300 lbs .Depending on which size .

[fj12ryder]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:
My 2010 Fuzion triple axle toyhauler's GVWR is 18,000 lbs. and I have the Sailun G rated tires on it, which replace the horrible OEM tires. I've considered going to an E-rated LT tire, but I can buy G-rated Sailun tires for less than the LT tires.

I've weighed each wheel separately and have a max of 2700 lbs. on two tires, and the other 4 are 2500 lbs. or less. I run the G-rated Sailun tires at 90 psi, which gives me 3300 lbs./tire carrying capacity.

Why do you think the F-rated tire sidewalls will be stiffer than the E-rated? And if they were, that could easily result in a very rough ride. My thought would be if it ain't broke, don't fix it. 🙂 That's assuming, of course, you can find a good E-rated ST tire.

You don’t consider the GY ENDURANCE a good tire?

There have been no instances that I know of where a Goodyear Endurance tires has failed. That is an excellent track record. The only thing I have against them is the very thin tread. If you put a lot of miles on your tires, then you could be looking at new tires around 20,000 miles. That's pretty poor life expectancy, IMO. However, that being said, most people don't put that many miles on their trailers, and, for them, they could be a very good tire.

I have no personal experience with them, so cannot speak from personal experience. Only what I've read about them, and that has been very good. They seem to be right up there with the Sailun, quality-wise. 🙂

[Cummins12V98]

ScottG wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Buy "E" Goodyear ENDURANCE in your size. Plenty of capacity for your load. They are US Made with ZERO reported non road hazard claims in the four years on the market.

I have them on my Boat trailer towing at 70 for the last three years nearly every day during the Summer. They look great still. They are rated at 75mph.

Actually, they're rated for 87 MPH 😉
Linkaroonie
I've been totally pleased with mine and will get another set when needed. I prefer them to even the Maxxiss I had.

No kidding !

Thanks for that info.

[Cummins12V98]

fj12ryder wrote:
My 2010 Fuzion triple axle toyhauler's GVWR is 18,000 lbs. and I have the Sailun G rated tires on it, which replace the horrible OEM tires. I've considered going to an E-rated LT tire, but I can buy G-rated Sailun tires for less than the LT tires.

I've weighed each wheel separately and have a max of 2700 lbs. on two tires, and the other 4 are 2500 lbs. or less. I run the G-rated Sailun tires at 90 psi, which gives me 3300 lbs./tire carrying capacity.

Why do you think the F-rated tire sidewalls will be stiffer than the E-rated? And if they were, that could easily result in a very rough ride. My thought would be if it ain't broke, don't fix it. 🙂 That's assuming, of course, you can find a good E-rated ST tire.

You don’t consider the GY ENDURANCE a good tire?