Need advice

[urbanspirit]

Hi,
We're looking for our first RV and have come across a used truck/5th combo at a local dealer that is selling on consignment. The 5th is a 2008 Jayco 27.5rks that appears in very good shape inside and out. the truck is a 2010 f150 bought specifically to tow this RV, the mileage on the truck is 161000 km (about 100000 miles).

So the questions I have are,
1. Will the Jayco last another 10 years with proper maintenance?
2. Is there just too much mileage on the truck to continue using it as a tow vehicle?

Depending on the answers i may have MANY more questions for all of you.

Thanks Mark

[shadows4]

urbanspirit wrote:
Thanks for all the replies,
The truck is a F150 4X4 supercab with the Triton 5.4 and tow package, 3.55 rear end. Ford's tow guide states a tow limit of 9700 lbs and a 10 to 25% pin weight. So if I read this correctly it should be fairly well matched. The Jayco has a dry pin weight of 1300 lbs and a gross of 8750 lbs. Do I have this correct?

Thanks again
Mark

I don't think that has the HD payload package. I believe the HD payload came with a 3.73 rear end. Again check the door sticker to be sure.

It will tow the trailer ok. But you will be close if not over on the rear axle rating.

Like was said above, if you like the trailer get it. If your not happy with how the truck pulls. Keep the 5er and trade the truck.

Good luck, John

[MFL]

Mark, towing a FW is more about payload, than weight being pulled. Without the 7-bolt wheels, E-rated tires, an F150 can easily be over rawr, and tire rating.

A dry pin of 1300, will be at least 1500, with just regular load in FW. You have to add 200#s more for the hitch, plus anything in truck, family, gear, etc.

When you look at tire loading chart in the truck, it will tell you how much load, this truck, can safely carry.

If you like the FW, maybe buy it, and get a used 3/4 ton to tow it. If the FW has been cared for, it could last another ten years, with continued care.

Jerry

[urbanspirit]

Thanks for all the replies,
The truck is a F150 4X4 supercab with the Triton 5.4 and tow package, 3.55 rear end. Ford's tow guide states a tow limit of 9700 lbs and a 10 to 25% pin weight. So if I read this correctly it should be fairly well matched. The Jayco has a dry pin weight of 1300 lbs and a gross of 8750 lbs. Do I have this correct?

Thanks again
Mark

[Me_Again]

teamfamily5 wrote:
There are more fords on the road than any other brand all the others made it home 🙂

And with their cab still on the chassis!

[teamfamily5]

There are more fords on the road than any other brand all the others made it home 🙂

[C-Bears]

Not withstanding the towing weight issues, I would look at the price of this combination. If you could pick it up close to wholesale value then maybe peddle the truck and get something different to tow that Jayco with. Who knows, you may be able to actually come out pretty good on the final price of the RV that way.

[Me_Again]

MFL wrote:
OP said the truck was bought specifically for towing this trailer. This would make one think it has the HD payload package. Like mentioned, check the payload sticker on door post.

If HD, should be a good working truck/trailer combo.

Jerry

That is assuming the owner new what he was doing!!!!! Salesman said it would tow any 5th wheel!!!

[MFL]

OP said the truck was bought specifically for towing this trailer. This would make one think it has the HD payload package. Like mentioned, check the payload sticker on door post.

If HD, should be a good working truck/trailer combo.

Jerry

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rhagfo wrote:
That 5er has an 8,750# GVWR and a dry 1,300 pin weight.
If the F150 is an EB Max/Max, if so should be a good match.

2010 the EB wasn't available. First year for it was 2011.

OP'er you need to get all the numbers off the door sticker. Especially the yellow payload sticker. Off hand I would say you would be ok but it will depend if the F150 has been maintained.

I have a 2004 Expedition with the 5.4 that has 247,000 miles on it. Still runs and drives good.

2010 should have the 5.4 in it. While not the fastest to the top of the hill, it is a very capable motor. Good luck, John

[TomHaycraft]

urbanspirit, to give you a direct comparison, with regards to the F150, here is my setup, some hard numbers and the rate limiter.

My C1500 Silverado with tow package is rated to pull 9,600 lbs. The trailer fully loaded weighs in at 7,700. The Springdale 247FWRLLS has one of the lightest pin weights for the size of the trailer and I'm within 130 lbs of my rear GAWR, 97% of its capacity. I'm within 10% of the truck's GCWR.

I get around Texas okay, have been into the Ozarks with a slightly smaller TT. I won't go to Colorado! I got into (and out of!) Palo Duro Canyon in the Texas panhandle with it's 10% grade with the Springdale. Where the engine shows it limitation is at 65 mph into a headwind. A lot of shifting down to 3rd with revs jumping up to 3,500+ forcing me to reduce speed.

Look at the sticker on the F150 for weight ratings. If you can, get the truck to some scales to know what the rear axle weight is and do the math. Every size pickup has its limitation, just be sure you know what you've got before departing with your cash.

Hope this helps.

[rhagfo]

That 5er has an 8,750# GVWR and a dry 1,300 pin weight.
If the F150 is an EB Max/Max, if so should be a good match.

[PapPappy]

Normally, I'd say that 100K miles isn't all that bad, but it seems as if this truck is undersized for the FW, so it could probably be considered to have even more miles/wear on it than if it was a F-250 say.

Of course, if the truck and trailer were well maintained over the first half of their lives, and you also keep things well maintained, it isn't unreasonable for you to get the years that you want from it. There are lots of RVs with a lot more miles and years than that!

Look around a bit more, checking out similar units, to see if you are getting as good a deal as you can, but remember that sometimes the deal that is "too good to be true"...IS!!

[Parrothead_Mike]

The Jayco is now about 6 years old. Another 6-10 years is not out of the question as long as you regularly take care of it, inside and out. The roof can be a weak spot and should be cleaned regularly and repaired quickly if you discover any holes in it or if the caulking needs repair. The suspension, brakes, bearings, and tires should also be checked and serviced when necessary. Interior items like the water heater, furnace, fridge, and water pump are other likely items that can pop up on you, but those things can go even on a fairly new RV.

My Cardinal is now 13 years old. I was considering selling it this summer. I looked hard for a good used 5th wheel between 2008 & 2012. I honestly didn't find anything within driving distance from home that I thought was a better camper for the money than the one we already had. I know the condition of everything in it and regularly wash it and take care of any issues ASAP. We'll pull it down to Florida again this winter. So you can see that if you take care of your unit it will last a long time.

Personally I'm a little iffy about the F150. I'm not sure that it's large enough for the towing package. If you're only using it to pull your camper locally and it's a great deal then maybe it's worth it, but it's not a long-distance towing machine. Regardless of what the seller says I'd try to get a better handle on what the pin weight capabilities of the F150 are. It just doesn't sound like a good fit to me.