โSep-05-2015 11:54 PM
โSep-08-2015 10:24 AM
taken wrote:NC Hauler wrote:
So, good "guess" on my part about the GCWR being 21,000#?..a GCWR that is 1000# higher than mine. His pin weight will easily hit 3,000# at the least...Guess I like the extra buffer I've given myself in going with the dually/4.10...I won't even go over my truck's GVWR...WELL under my trucks RAWR,and extremely under my truck's GCWR...gives me "peace of mind" towing on mountainous curvy roads and the stability of the dually makes it well worth it....safety is key in my equation on towing.
It wasn't a good guess. Every Thunderbolt AMP is rated at 21k GVWR. ๐
His pin weight WILL NOT exceed 3k and likely won't even hit it. As I posted, my trailer is at 2850 loaded and ready to travel and it goes down to 2650 with the garage loaded. My listed pin is higher than the 420's by 110# so I'd bet money the 420's loaded pin will be lower than mine too. Bottom line is he will be under on his truck's GVWR by over 1k, under on his RAWR, and under on his tire ratings. He will only be over on GCWR if he's loaded heavy ready to tow. I am and am not worried about it in the least. His 3500 megacab will have a GVWR of 12400#. The truck will weigh about 8500 ready to tow. That leave's almost 4k for pin.
As to safety, I have 100% piece of mind with my RV/truck combo. That's a personal thing. Safety is more of a perception than fact based with many people.
โSep-08-2015 09:39 AM
NC Hauler wrote:
So, good "guess" on my part about the GCWR being 21,000#?..a GCWR that is 1000# higher than mine. His pin weight will easily hit 3,000# at the least...Guess I like the extra buffer I've given myself in going with the dually/4.10...I won't even go over my truck's GVWR...WELL under my trucks RAWR,and extremely under my truck's GCWR...gives me "peace of mind" towing on mountainous curvy roads and the stability of the dually makes it well worth it....safety is key in my equation on towing.
โSep-08-2015 09:15 AM
โSep-08-2015 06:25 AM
taken wrote:BFMC69 wrote:
#taken,
Please let me know what you find out about the pin and dry weight of the XLR.
OK, here are the dry weights on a production XLR 420. They are before you add any options, install battery(s), and fill propane tanks.
Hitch-2537#, Ship-14657#, GVWR-21000#.
So, figure the pin loaded and ready for travel will be under 2900#. This is no issue for any SRW 350/3500. Also remember that the pin goes down the more you load the garage. Not a lot, but some. The only thing you will be over on is GCWR. Oh, and another great option on the XLR, especially for us SRW guys, is the Tuson Sway Control. It has the ability to pulse the trailer brakes on one side or the other to eliminate sway. With the lighter pin weight, this really helps keep the trailer in line with the truck. I've already towed ours over 3k miles this year and it's like an arrow behind my little SRW truck.
โSep-08-2015 05:16 AM
BFMC69 wrote:
#taken,
Please let me know what you find out about the pin and dry weight of the XLR.
โSep-07-2015 07:31 PM
lawnspecialties wrote:
My dealer says working with the Fuzion folks on warranty issues is great. Probably the best one the service guys recommended. But that being said, a lot of that has to do with your own dealer and their relationship with each manufacturer. My dealer sells a LOT of Fuzions but usually only carries a few XLRs at a time.
On the other hand, if you're going to keep the 2500, you gotta go with the XLR. In my opinion, hitch weight is THE biggest factor when hauling with a single rear wheeled truck. I've gone from an F450 back to an F350 SRW. The XLRs are high on my list for our next toy hauler because they seem geared toward lighter pin weights; even on the triple axle models.
I've also had great success with all my Forest River campers.
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โSep-07-2015 04:51 AM
CarlT100 wrote:
Very well said, Jim. I wish the OP the best and safe travels. Personally, I would never take that risk.
โSep-07-2015 04:48 AM
lawnspecialties wrote:
My opinion. We really need to find out what the pin weights are. The Forest River website page I saw said "TBD".
โSep-07-2015 04:47 AM
NC Hauler wrote:BFMC69 wrote:
#NC Hauler #taken,
Thank you both for your input and yes I understand the DRW would be the best/safest way to go.
But if I run airbags and go to G rated tires on the 2500 Mega, other than some sway from the coil springs would that still be unsafe?
The SRW 2500 has the same Axles, brakes, motor & tranny as the SRW 3500 and the 3500 has E rated tires. So other than some possible sway in heavy wind, why would the 2500 with bags and G rated tires not be as safe as the 3500 SRW?
My whole point here is I don't want to drive a buck board everyday for work and I'm only going to tow the trailer 6-8 times a year and a small trailer will not work for us.
We've stated more than several times, with facts from airbag manufacturers, that airbags WILL NOT help add payload....only levels the load..
Dually in my sig is a loaded out Longhorn...I'm engulfed in luxury....A dually has been my daily driver for over 10 years now and doesn't ride like a buckboard., I HAVE to have the dually IF I want the 5ers I've towed over the last 10 yrs, ie, the right truck for the job...New 5er in my sig has a GVW of 20,000#, and this truck will easily handle it without "adding" anything to it..Your 2500 has a GVW of10,000#, mine is 14,000#, with a GCWR of 37,500#.. huge difference.
G rated tires don't add GCWR...You're looking for justification to overload the 2500...I can't, in good conscience, tell you that it is ok....or safe...BUT, your choice, truck and most important, your family
You've already made up your mind to tow a TH with GVW of 19000-21000# with a 2500 Megacab. I't isn't a very good idea, but I don't think that really matters to you...drive safely and keep us posted,
โSep-07-2015 04:35 AM