Seeking a used 1/2 Ton Tot Hauler. Ideas?

[jeffnkell]

Checking into a Toy Hauler to haul the Goldwing and do a little camping as well. Looking at Play-mor due to the fact they are quite 1/2 ton towable. Not much creature comforts in the ones I am seeing. But I can add options. I am a handy kind of guy..

Any Ideas?

I would really appreciate some input.

Thanks in advance.

Happy Trails...

[atwowheelguy]

TexasChaps wrote:
I have an MXT20, pulls just fine with a Tundra ( 5.7L )
my wife and I vacation for 2 to 3 weeks at a time and this
TH is quite adequate. Loaded with one motorcycle ( 700 lbs )
and all our stuff it weighs in at 6000 lbs. hitch weight was measured
at 675 lbs. the GVWR is 7000 lbs.
my only issue was the TV, 1/2 tons run out of payload quickly
so I now have a 2500HD Ram.

Did you exceed the GVWR of the Tundra with the MXT20?

[atwowheelguy]

Kafn8td wrote:
I have a Fun Finder XT 276 and it's great. It's light weight, but with the wing in the back it might be a bit much for a 1/2 ton.

They do make smaller versions, but I understand Thor just bought Fun Finder so you might be able to find them at a discount.

I have a Fun Finder XTRA XT-245. With a 1607# truck payload, two dirt bikes in the camper and two people and riding gear in the truck, the rear axle is 50 lbs. under the rear axle weight limit. My F150 would be overloaded towing a XT-276. The Ecoboost engine would have no trouble towing it, but the weight would be too much for the axle rating.

It appears that Cruiser RV has discontinued the Fun Finder XTRA toy haulers and replaced them with the much larger, heavier Stryker line. There are probably still some on the dealer lots, but no more new 1/2 ton towable toy haulers from Cruiser RV. 😞

[atwowheelguy]

The only brochure available on the Play-Mor web site is dated 2007. The two toy haulers in the weight range you mentioned are the 8018 @ 4060 lbs. with 690 lbs hitch weight and the 8020 @ 4160 lbs. with 830 lbs. hitch weight. They are built with two 5200 lb. axles and a 9000 lb. GVWR, so they should be able to haul the 'wing. I have a Cruiser FunFinder XT-245. The "spec" weight was 4650 lbs., but it left the factory with a sticker that said 5025 lbs. Loaded with two dirt bikes (about 600 lbs. total), it tipped the scales at 6740 lbs. with a tongue weight of 780 lbs. My truck has a payload of 1607 lbs. With two people and their riding gear and tools in the truck (707 lbs. of people and stuff) and the weight distribution hitch engaged, the rear axle was 50 lbs. under the Rear Axle Weight Rating. I have since started loading more stuff in the camper and less in the truck. The tongue weights listed for the Play-Mor campers are listed as 690 lbs. and 830 lbs. with the camper empty. It gets heavy in a hurry and the payload on your truck gets eaten up in a hurry. I searched for 53 weeks to find a used toy hauler that had a bed available without unloading the bikes, would hold two bikes and wouldn't overload my truck.

[cruz-in]

as the post was deleted as a "for sale" post, can someone mention the model and manufacturer being referenced...

[09KZMXT266]

NiasWagn wrote:

09KZMXT266 wrote:
{Post deleted. No for-sale posts allowed.} 🙂

I came very close to buying one of those down in KC. I liked it but it came with nothing on it so by the time I added the beds, bathroom and kitchen etc. I was looking at 22K - 26K+. I made two trips down there to look it over. I also liked that it was lower to the ground (for loading/unloading etc.).

Yep, they are very nice but get very pricy after adding everything. I was willing to pay the price for piece of mind. If water somehow gets into my trailer I won't worry one bit because it can't hurt anything. There is nothing to rot. Plus, I love the one piece aluminum roof.

[NiasWagn]

09KZMXT266 wrote:
{Post deleted. No for-sale posts allowed.} 🙂

I came very close to buying one of those down in KC. I liked it but it came with nothing on it so by the time I added the beds, bathroom and kitchen etc. I was looking at 22K - 26K+. I made two trips down there to look it over. I also liked that it was lower to the ground (for loading/unloading etc.).

[09KZMXT266]

TexasChaps wrote:
I have an MXT20, pulls just fine with a Tundra ( 5.7L )
my wife and I vacation for 2 to 3 weeks at a time and this
TH is quite adequate. Loaded with one motorcycle ( 700 lbs )
and all our stuff it weighs in at 6000 lbs. hitch weight was measured
at 675 lbs. the GVWR is 7000 lbs.
my only issue was the TV, 1/2 tons run out of payload quickly
so I now have a 2500HD Ram.

Bingo, "payload." That is exactly the problem with 1/2 ton trucks. That's why I bought a toy hauler that only weighed 3300# dry. Other problem is the tongue weight on haulers is a lot which goes straight to the payload of the truck. It's very hard to find the right toy hauler for 1/2 ton trucks.

[TexasChaps]

I have an MXT20, pulls just fine with a Tundra ( 5.7L )
my wife and I vacation for 2 to 3 weeks at a time and this
TH is quite adequate. Loaded with one motorcycle ( 700 lbs )
and all our stuff it weighs in at 6000 lbs. hitch weight was measured
at 675 lbs. the GVWR is 7000 lbs.
my only issue was the TV, 1/2 tons run out of payload quickly
so I now have a 2500HD Ram.

[jeffnkell]

No offense taken. I appreciate the input. Its been a VERY long time since we have owned a "Travel Trailer"... We went from a pop up to a 30 Coachmen to a 38 foot class A. Sold it all, bought a bike and now need something to haul it in. We could just convert a Cargo trailer, and stay in Hotels... BUUUTTT.... I travel for work and stay in Hotels weekly... Miss the campers and the stuff that goes with it... Ya know.. the outdoors, the smell of the fire... (insert cool camping phrase here).....

J

[1L243]

I was not picking on W&P, I have one and real happy with it. I was just generally speaking on older trailers. If the price is right. Rigs seem to drop to to a certain point and then bottom out..

[jeffnkell]

Took my Flashlight and opened all cabinets, check behind the toilet, all walls / windows look solid. Ramp works with ease and it is solid as well. Just trying to keep the cost down as best I can. I have a few friends that have WnP's. They seem to be quite happy with theirs.

The search is still on I must say....

Thanks for the reply!!

Happy Trails....

[1L243]

That Work and Play is over 10 Years old... I would go for something newer. On any older Rig I would check for water damage... Walls around windows and floor around ramp....

[jeffnkell]

Thanks for your input folks. I do appreciate it!!!

Looked at a Work and Play last night. She is an older model, 2004, 20-MLK. Has all the expected stuff. AC, Water Heater (5 gal) 2 folding beds / couches in back, Table, fridge, MW, 3 burner stove... They are including the WD receiver and bars. Tires look fine. No checks or dry rot.

They are the original owners with service records and all paperwork / manuals.
She needs;
A full detail / cleaning, interior and exterior.
Deep cell battery
Awning (None installed)
New entry Step. (It's pretty bad...)

They are asking $6300. NADA reports High retail at $5360. With things considered, I will most likely make my initial offer of 4K and see where it goes. I don't want to be upside down in value from the get go. And I don't want to insult them either. My thought is... "It is what it is..."

NADA is a great tool I have used it forever for cars and such....

I have a Playmor Motorsport to look at tomorrow. Its a 2014, no beds with the standard options. He is asking 11,500.

Does anyone have any additional input for these two models?

Thanks and Happy Trails!

Jeff

[lightfoot]

Try the following link for a good trainer that hauled an HD Ultra.

http://rvusa.com/rvs/2014/forest-river-cherokee-grey-wolf-toy-hauler-used-palos-hills-illinois-1310896