Settle an argument about CCC

[Tabith20634]

So my husband and I are currently getting things in order to live full time in an RV with our 2 children ( at least for a year) in order to travel.

I have a concern with purchasing a rig that leave little ccc and want to avoid it

We seem to be getting conflicting info

Does the CCC weight include assumed full tank weight and sleeping capacity or no?

I say no based off what I read but my husband showed me an article where 154lbs per sleeping capacity and full tank weight was assumed and included in the total weight before the CCC ( as in not additional numbers to take out of the stickered CCC)

I hope I am explaining this correctly we are very new to all of this but are very excited and dedicated to assuming the lifestyle TIA

[nremtp143]

The reason I know this is our '12 Sandpiper 365SAQ came with 6k axles and weighed a lot more than they claim it did. So after loading generator and having it weighed, it had 137 pounds of CCC BEFORE anything was put into it. After a 6 week problem solving conversation with FR, they sent new wheels, axles, springs and U-bolts to me dealer for them to put in. Since then, they've changed out over 40 that we know of. Just beware.

[minnow]

I would suggest to the OP that they rule out the Vanleigh 375FL that was reviewed in the June '17 Trailer Life magazine. It's a 40" fifth wheel that has a whopping CCC rating of 360 pounds.

[nremtp143]

evanrem wrote:
I was just looking into this and one unit I looked at stated a full tank of water and propane tanks were included in the calculation of the CCC. Most trailers I looked at did not calculate it that way. My advice would be to verify by manufacturer.

You are correct. The chief engineer at FR says that they do weigh for propane on all models and water and propane on others such as toyhaulers. Check the stickers and if unsure, call them.

[ACZL]

Cedar Creek's have some high CCC's as well and if kids in tow, perhaps a mid bunk 5er.

[tinner12002]

You usually would have to get into a toy hauler in order to get some decent carrying capacities. Most of them are in the 3000-4000# range, there are some higher and some lower. Most are usually bigger than fifth wheels too at 42-44ft long.

[mtofell1]

I'm constantly amazed at wide range of CCC in trailers. Some of them are just ridiculously low with less than 500# with max water. I personally want to see at least a couple thousand pounds as a minimum. For one I just don't want to have to worry about what I carry but I also want a trailer that is a little overbuilt rather than being right on the line. These things are weak enough as is.

[Bumpyroad]

bpounds wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

when I was looking at the previous issue of Winnebago B vans, they had one with twin beds and one with what looked like a double. the double had about 154 lbs. more CCC. seems that they did deduct for each sleeping position.
bumpy

Might just be the weight of the extra bed. Not an occupant. Might be different for motorized coaches though, since the occupants are definitely part of the load while traveling. Occupants are not figured in trailers.

nope, the printed capacity was one person on that unit. TWO on the other one. like 1 person is the usual content of riders, Not.
BUMPY

[Old-Biscuit]

My 5th wheel has a GVWR of 14,375#
My 5th wheel has a UVW of 10,218#

Sub total CCC of 4,157#

But have to subtract:
Fresh water 664#
Propane 58#

Total CCC of 3,435#

**Dealer installed equipment will reduce CCC
So subtract 2 Interstate Group 27 batteries 50#/each

So CCC for my 5th wheel is 3,325#

[Ivylog]

Big difference in the definition of CCC in motorhomes compared to trailers. MH CCC is how much stuff you can put in with it ready to move...full fuel, full fresh water, propane, batteries, and 154 times sleeping capacity. For full-time in a TT I would want over 2000+ pounds by the motorhome definition less the fuel and 154 X.

[evanrem]

I was just looking into this and one unit I looked at stated a full tank of water and propane tanks were included in the calculation of the CCC. Most trailers I looked at did not calculate it that way. My advice would be to verify by manufacturer.

[laknox]

Bumpyroad wrote:

laknox wrote:

Frankly, what does sleeping capacity have to do with anything, as you're, I hope, not going to have passengers in the FW as you travel. I'm much more concerned with how much it weighs going down the road, where it'll be pounded by our gloriously fantastic interstates and state highways. (sarcasm=off) I hope you're not confusing the FW's CCC and the truck's payload capacity, here.

Lyle

when I was looking at the previous issue of Winnebago B vans, they had one with twin beds and one with what looked like a double. the double had about 154 lbs. more CCC. seems that they did deduct for each sleeping position.
bumpy

Sure, makes sense, since the passengers =are= cargo. Unless someone plans on traveling with passengers in their FW (yes, it is legal in some states), then they need to take into account those passengers' weights in figuring net CCC...same as you do for your tow vehicle.

Lyle

[bpounds]

Bumpyroad wrote:

when I was looking at the previous issue of Winnebago B vans, they had one with twin beds and one with what looked like a double. the double had about 154 lbs. more CCC. seems that they did deduct for each sleeping position.
bumpy

Might just be the weight of the extra bed. Not an occupant. Might be different for motorized coaches though, since the occupants are definitely part of the load while traveling. Occupants are not figured in trailers.

[Bumpyroad]

laknox wrote:

Frankly, what does sleeping capacity have to do with anything, as you're, I hope, not going to have passengers in the FW as you travel. I'm much more concerned with how much it weighs going down the road, where it'll be pounded by our gloriously fantastic interstates and state highways. (sarcasm=off) I hope you're not confusing the FW's CCC and the truck's payload capacity, here.

Lyle

when I was looking at the previous issue of Winnebago B vans, they had one with twin beds and one with what looked like a double. the double had about 154 lbs. more CCC. seems that they did deduct for each sleeping position.
bumpy

[sch911]

CCC is only a rating. You can only determine your own CCC by weighing your trailer and subtracting that from the GVWR.