Feb-07-2014 05:43 AM
Feb-07-2014 07:28 AM
kennethwooster wrote:
.....and it tows my 32ft. Cameo without a hitch.
Feb-07-2014 07:27 AM
Feb-07-2014 07:14 AM
Feb-07-2014 07:11 AM
Feb-07-2014 07:04 AM
travisgsf wrote:MTPockets1 wrote:
Most always the SRW crowd says it pulls just fine, while the issue should be about "payload" . The max payload regardless is the two tires are rated for only so much; most I am aware of is 3415 lbs per tire at 80 psi. That's 6830 lbs. subtract from that the truck weight on rear axle, hitch, people, fuel, other options, and payload tops is 3000 lbs, and realistically much less. You just can't get 5 lbs of Sh** in a 3 lb bag.
And then most of those guys add airbags that can handle 5000lbs. Does that even help?
Feb-07-2014 07:00 AM
MTPockets1 wrote:
Most always the SRW crowd says it pulls just fine, while the issue should be about "payload" . The max payload regardless is the two tires are rated for only so much; most I am aware of is 3415 lbs per tire at 80 psi. That's 6830 lbs. subtract from that the truck weight on rear axle, hitch, people, fuel, other options, and payload tops is 3000 lbs, and realistically much less. You just can't get 5 lbs of Sh** in a 3 lb bag.
Feb-07-2014 06:58 AM
WHY DO YOU TALK DRY!!!! Do you tow it DRY???
I pull my 05 Copper Canyon at 11,000 GVW (AKA loaded). You look to have been around about a year, it is stated we like to talk either GVWR or GVW, most don't get to the full GVWR, but average between 1,000# to 2,000# pounds of payload.
Do I feel in control, absolutely! if I didn't i would not be pulling what I am pulling.
Over GVWR, yep no bags or Timbeirs needed this truck came from the factory with real springs.
This is not the last mile to a Camp Ground this is what much of the main state highway (HY 26) between Portland OR, and the Oregon Coast could be considered the main road to Ft. Stevens SP with over 500 sites, and a KOA right across the road with 100+ sites.
Would you feel safe and in control driving this at 55 to 60 mph??
Feb-07-2014 06:56 AM
MTPockets1 wrote:
Most always the SRW crowd says it pulls just fine, while the issue should be about "payload" . The max payload regardless is the two tires are rated for only so much; most I am aware of is 3415 lbs per tire at 80 psi. That's 6830 lbs. subtract from that the truck weight on rear axle, hitch, people, fuel, other options, and payload tops is 3000 lbs, and realistically much less. You just can't get 5 lbs of Sh** in a 3 lb bag.
Feb-07-2014 06:54 AM
Feb-07-2014 06:53 AM
OpenRangePullen_Ford wrote:
I tow a 14000 pound 41ft 5th wheel with my F-250 handles well, I got a SWR 250, for reasons i don't feel like explaining. I put a rack on the back of the 5th wheel that holds four extra LP tanks, my big tool box, and some other things. My 250 doesn't sag more than 1 1/2 inches now.
Feb-07-2014 06:41 AM
ependydad wrote:travisgsf wrote:
Do you feel in control?
I'll be shocked if anyone who is currently towing over their ratings admits to not feeling in control (regardless of what they actually feel). You'll get a lot of folks saying, "tows just fine" and "barely know it's back there".
You'll get a handful of responses saying they used to pull with a 2500 or SWR or whatever and upgraded to a dually and claim a "night and day difference".
And you'll get a few of us who have only pulled with a dually telling you we can't imagine towing with less.
(shrugs)
Feb-07-2014 06:35 AM
Feb-07-2014 06:34 AM
Feb-07-2014 06:34 AM
Gemstone wrote:
"And the class 7/8 guys look down their noses at the DRW pickup guys!"....that's a bit of a fabrication doncha think ? I'll look forward to you providing an example of that from the archives here.
We are usually more on the informative side than the snobby side. We are always happy to share the reasons why we moved to a big truck, without a "holier-than-thou" attitude. Most of us have "been there, done that" with LDT's and know how easy it is to believe that our beloved LDT can do anything we ask of it.
But the bottom line is safety....what makes YOU comfortable. In my case, it wasn't my chipped Dodge SRW...which had more than enough HP and torque to pull my 19K lb 5th wheel....it just didn't have the stopping power that made me feel in control.
Regards
Gemstone
Feb-07-2014 06:29 AM