want towing opinion

[2001400ex]

So I bought a 2009 wolf pack 27 dfwp in 2008. It said 5,800 dry, which there is no way it was that light . Even completely empty the thing was hard to pull. I pulled it with my Chevy 6.0 gas, a Ford 6.0 that we programmed and exhaust, my current stock 2008 duramax, and two different Ford 7.3s (friends vehicles) and every truck struggled and got like 8 mpg towing. I sold it in the fall because I live in Spokane and frequently take it on 10 hour trips through several mountain passes. Was very frustrating to pull.

Now I am looking at the xlr hyperlite series. The 19hfs (4300 ponds) and the 24hfs (5600 pounds). Of course I would prefer the 24 as it will fit both my quads. But the small 19 footer is intriguing. I would imagine towing that would be easy, more similar to a regular enclosed trailer.

But I want the extra room in the 24 footer. So the question is, what are your thoughts on the difference in towing with 5 additional feet and 1,300 pounds? I imagine the 24 foot xlr is still way easier to pull than the 27 wolf pack I used to have.

[sin_cal_hd]

Just because his mpg are different than some posted doesnt mean something is wrong with the trailer. Some drivers might have a heavier foot than others. BTW, he did mention mountain passes. Dont go buy a ford. I swear Lincster is ford saleman and does not want to admit it.

I got horrible mpg with my 05 duramax/ allison pulling a 30' 12 k 5th wheel. Everyone I talked to said something was wrong with my truck. I do believe with as many trucks that are produced something is bound to go wrong with a handful. Weather it be tranny issues or motor issue or programming issues. But to have an issue with 2 truck, without ever having your trailer looked out it will be hard to know for sure.

Get trailer with more room. You can never have enough room.

[lincster]

Buy a new Powerstroke. You won't know either of those little trailers are behind it.
I tow a 41' Warrior and can accelerate up just about any hill out of Phoenix. And some of those are 6% grades for a few miles.

[dsrace]

definitely something wrong with that th'er and yes frontal is a huge factor and another thing I experienced a while back was I had a 22'er with 205x15's on it and hauled a 27'er that was 1k lb heavier but had 235x16's on it and it was a night and day easier to pull with the bigger tires! both were v-noses as well. should've tried unplugging the trailer harness to see if the brakes were dragging from a faulty controller. I have seen that happen as well.

[kaydeejay]

2001400ex wrote:
Ok, I should have clarified better. Lol yes, the 6.0 gas engine got about 7 mpg at 60 mph, the diesels were about 8 at 70 mpg. Of course there are a lot of variables. I also thought the sticker lied on the camper. I never took it to a scale, but I suspect it was closer to 8,000 dry and 10k loaded. I did have the bearings and brakes checked by a dealer and they were fine.

So you guys don't think there is a huge difference between the 19 and 24 footers?

Those numbers still don't add up! For a short while I pulled a 13,000# fiver with my D'Max. It still got 11mpgs.
Frontal area is more your enemy than weight. If the 19' and 24' trailers have a similar frontal area, the extra weight of the 24' will not make a huge difference to your mileage.
What are the GVWRs of the two trailers? I suspect they are both WELL within your D'max truck's ratings.

[hmknightnc]

2001400ex wrote:
Ok, I should have clarified better. Lol yes, the 6.0 gas engine got about 7 mpg at 60 mph, the diesels were about 8 at 70 mpg. Of course there are a lot of variables. I also thought the sticker lied on the camper. I never took it to a scale, but I suspect it was closer to 8,000 dry and 10k loaded. I did have the bearings and brakes checked by a dealer and they were fine.

So you guys don't think there is a huge difference between the 19 and 24 footers?

Something was not right with that previous trailer. A 2008 DMax would be laughing at a 10k# trailer. With that truck pick either of the models you want, the truck isn't going to care nor notice. 8-10 mpg is about average for most people towing anything with hieght and wieght

[2001400ex]

Ok, I should have clarified better. Lol yes, the 6.0 gas engine got about 7 mpg at 60 mph, the diesels were about 8 at 70 mpg. Of course there are a lot of variables. I also thought the sticker lied on the camper. I never took it to a scale, but I suspect it was closer to 8,000 dry and 10k loaded. I did have the bearings and brakes checked by a dealer and they were fine.

So you guys don't think there is a huge difference between the 19 and 24 footers?

[BobWanderer]

Our 6.0 gas Chevy struggled with Our 10K T H, our 08 D-Max pulls it very nicely and gets decent MPG's

[ScottG]

Something doesn't add up. All those trucks would not get the same mileage nor would the DMax "struggle" with that little weight.
What ever the case, the new trailers your looking at are so close to the old trailer that I don't think you'd feel much of a difference between them. And 1300# between models wont be noticeable either.

[kaydeejay]

There is no way ANY D'Max would struggle pulling the sort of weight you have quoted.
My 2005 laughs at 9500# and gets 12.5 mpg while doing it.
There was SOMETHING wrong with that trailer - be it brakes, bearings or whatever.

[Golden_HVAC]

I was thinking - what if the brakes where stuck or something?

The trailer should not have been that difficult to tow. But bad bearings, or brakes that are installed backwards and drag all the time can cause it to not tow easy. This will also cause the brakes to heat up a lot, or the bearings to reach well over 130F while towing. Normal bearings in good condition should not be over 120F on a 90F day.

Fred.