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JeffroMax
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I have a 2500 06 Dodge Mega Cab with the Cummins in it. Dodge says it can tow 13k but on the cummins forum people say this is a joke and it can tow a lot more. A few people have said they tow 30k on a regular basis. Im going to be towing a 07 Jayco Jay Flight that won't weigh more than 9500 loaded while pulling my rzr and a trailer that will be another 2000. That puts me under 12k which is almost at its max weight. Does this seem reasonable or should I consider airbags or something similar?
06 Dodge Cummins 2500 Mega Cab Shortbed
07 Jayco Jay Flight 30.5 RLS
08 Polaris RZR 800
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Cummins12V98
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Atom Ant wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
Atom Ant wrote:
HWR wrote:
My first priority is always the max rear axle weight rating and the max tire weight rating.
X2
I decided that is where I draw the line too. Pulled our F350 SRW onto the CAT scale and it said I was 6820 on a 7K rear axle and tires rated for a few hundred pounds more than that. I hadn't even loaded food, clothes, water, or the daughter yet! I thought I could get by, but was fooling myself.

With no more reluctance, we went to a dually. 9K rear axle and a bucket load of tire capacity :B


Thanks for stepping up!
I wouldn't do it for you. In fact now that you said something I think I'll go back to a SRW. Are you as full of yourself when you are not behind a keyboard?


Wow that was a sincere compliment, what have I ever done to you to deserve a reply like that???????
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

Atom_Ant
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Cummins12V98 wrote:
Atom Ant wrote:
HWR wrote:
My first priority is always the max rear axle weight rating and the max tire weight rating.
X2
I decided that is where I draw the line too. Pulled our F350 SRW onto the CAT scale and it said I was 6820 on a 7K rear axle and tires rated for a few hundred pounds more than that. I hadn't even loaded food, clothes, water, or the daughter yet! I thought I could get by, but was fooling myself.

With no more reluctance, we went to a dually. 9K rear axle and a bucket load of tire capacity :B


Thanks for stepping up!
I wouldn't do it for you. In fact now that you said something I think I'll go back to a SRW. Are you as full of yourself when you are not behind a keyboard?
2008 Ford F350 2014 Redwood 36RL - Our Rig
Onan 5500, Splendide Ariston W/D, 8K axles, disk brakes, G614s, tri-glide pin box,
6-pt leveling, dual heat pump, dual awnings, Trav'ler SK-1000 Dish

Cummins12V98
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Atom Ant wrote:
HWR wrote:
My first priority is always the max rear axle weight rating and the max tire weight rating.
X2
I decided that is where I draw the line too. Pulled our F350 SRW onto the CAT scale and it said I was 6820 on a 7K rear axle and tires rated for a few hundred pounds more than that. I hadn't even loaded food, clothes, water, or the daughter yet! I thought I could get by, but was fooling myself.

With no more reluctance, we went to a dually. 9K rear axle and a bucket load of tire capacity :B


Thanks for stepping up!
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

Atom_Ant
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HWR wrote:
My first priority is always the max rear axle weight rating and the max tire weight rating.
X2
I decided that is where I draw the line too. Pulled our F350 SRW onto the CAT scale and it said I was 6820 on a 7K rear axle and tires rated for a few hundred pounds more than that. I hadn't even loaded food, clothes, water, or the daughter yet! I thought I could get by, but was fooling myself.

With no more reluctance, we went to a dually. 9K rear axle and a bucket load of tire capacity :B
2008 Ford F350 2014 Redwood 36RL - Our Rig
Onan 5500, Splendide Ariston W/D, 8K axles, disk brakes, G614s, tri-glide pin box,
6-pt leveling, dual heat pump, dual awnings, Trav'ler SK-1000 Dish

The_Mad_Norsky
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john&bet wrote:
I have towed a 250,000# B-52H Bomber with a 5.9 Cummins. Does that count?


I realize off topic, way off, but why should that stop me now?? :B Never has before.

Anyway, lucky enough to get a total tour of a B-1B few years back at Ellsworth AFB South Dakota.

I was so impressed with the total loaded weight of those bombers. The Air Force official who gave us the tour said the B-1B and B-52 were both over 500,000 pounds fully loaded. B-1B full load actually heavier than a B-52, which surprised me.

A lot of fuel and bomb load. Impressive machines. Hard to imagine that much weight can fly.
The Mad Norsky, Doll, Logan and Rocky
2014 Ram 3500 w/ Cummins/Aisin
2019 Northern Lite 10-2 EX CD LE Wet Bath
RV'ing since 1991

I took the road less traveled .....Now I'm Lost!

rhagfo
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rhagfo wrote:
JeffroMax wrote:
I have a 2500 06 Dodge Mega Cab with the Cummins in it. Dodge says it can tow 13k but on the cummins forum people say this is a joke and it can tow a lot more. A few people have said they tow 30k on a regular basis. Im going to be towing a 07 Jayco Jay Flight that won't weigh more than 9500 loaded while pulling my rzr and a trailer that will be another 2000. That puts me under 12k which is almost at its max weight. Does this seem reasonable or should I consider airbags or something similar?


I easily pull 11K with my 01, with a small chip, I am a bit over GVWR, but have almost 1,000# of extra rear axle / tire capacity.


slomark wrote:
My 08 MC pulls 10k with ease, the addition of air bags, and disc brakes on the trailer made a significant difference. Funny though, I too will be pulling doubles with an rzr 4, in the fall. Purchased a scale to manage the pin weight more accurately. Currently there is a 600# box on the rear, that lightened the pin by approx 400#, and had to add some ballast under the bed. All is well.


I didn't state before, but my 01 pulls that 11K 5er with 2,000# to 2,300# pin I don't need air bags, and am still not ridding the overloads. If I needed air Bags I would be looking at a bigger truck. The 01 has both a Factory Camper Package and Tow package. I also installed a Pacbrake as it is recommended if towing a 5er over 10,000#.
Russ & Paula the Beagle Belle.
2016 Ram Laramie 3500 Aisin DRW 4X4 Long bed.
2005 Copper Canyon 293 FWSLS, 32' GVWR 12,360#

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john_bet
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JeffroMax wrote:
I have a 2500 06 Dodge Mega Cab with the Cummins in it. Dodge says it can tow 13k but on the cummins forum people say this is a joke and it can tow a lot more. A few people have said they tow 30k on a regular basis. Im going to be towing a 07 Jayco Jay Flight that won't weigh more than 9500 loaded while pulling my rzr and a trailer that will be another 2000. That puts me under 12k which is almost at its max weight. Does this seem reasonable or should I consider airbags or something similar?
I have towed a 250,000# B-52H Bomber with a 5.9 Cummins. Does that count?
2018 Ram 3500 SRW CC LB 6.7L Cummins Auto 3.42 gears
2018 Grand Design 337RLS

45Ricochet
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slomark wrote:
Purchased a scale to manage the pin weight more accurately. Currently there is a 600# box on the rear, that lightened the pin by approx 400#, and had to add some ballast under the bed. All is well.


What?? Do tell :W
2015 Tiffin Phaeton Cummins ISL, Allison 3000, 45K GCWR
10KW Onan, Magnum Pure Sine Wave Inverter
2015 GMC Canyon Toad

Previous camping rig
06 Ram 3500 CC LB Laramie 4x4 Dually 5.9 Cummins Smarty Jr 48RE Jacobs brake
06 Grand Junction 15500 GVWR 3200 pin

slomark
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My 08 MC pulls 10k with ease, the addition of air bags, and disc brakes on the trailer made a significant difference. Funny though, I too will be pulling doubles with an rzr 4, in the fall. Purchased a scale to manage the pin weight more accurately. Currently there is a 600# box on the rear, that lightened the pin by approx 400#, and had to add some ballast under the bed. All is well.
'09 Heartland Sundance 285bh, '08 CTD

Gemstone
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"A few people have said they tow 30k on a regular basis"....

happens all the time....in a farm environment....pulling a trailer full of round bales....but that is slow, controlled and usually short distance. 30K on the hiway is a horse of a different color, they are blowin' smoke up your skirt if they tell you it's hiway use.

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Gemstone
'06 Elite Suites TK3, '95 KW T-600, '08 Softail Classic , '06 Softail Deuce

JIMNLIN
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JeffroMax wrote:
I have a 2500 06 Dodge Mega Cab with the Cummins in it. Dodge says it can tow 13k but on the cummins forum people say this is a joke and it can tow a lot more. A few people have said they tow 30k on a regular basis. Im going to be towing a 07 Jayco Jay Flight that won't weigh more than 9500 loaded while pulling my rzr and a trailer that will be another 2000. That puts me under 12k which is almost at its max weight. Does this seem reasonable or should I consider airbags or something similar?

Your good to go. The 2500 Mega is a heavy truck but has the same rear suspension as other 2500 trucks.
All 2500 Dodge/Cummins gets the same engine/tranny and the big 11.5" AAM rear axles.

Don't add a thing to the truck till you tow with it. Then decide if it needs help.
"good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" ............ Will Rogers

'03 2500 QC Dodge/Cummins HO 3.73 6 speed manual Jacobs Westach
'97 Park Avanue 28' 5er 11200 two slides

The_Mad_Norsky
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N-Trouble wrote:
The Mad Norsky wrote:
Its just this year alone that a vehicle has come out rated to tow 30K. That is the 2013 Ram 3500. Suspect this is a regular cab gas motor.

Folks on the Cummins forum are pulling your leg, but not pulling 30K.


Gas motor pulling 30K lbs.... LOL


Well, actually, probably is. Diesel Cummins adds too much weight to the vehicle, lowering the rating.

Whatever the case, it is certainly NOT:

four wheel drive

Quad cab

Mega cab.
The Mad Norsky, Doll, Logan and Rocky
2014 Ram 3500 w/ Cummins/Aisin
2019 Northern Lite 10-2 EX CD LE Wet Bath
RV'ing since 1991

I took the road less traveled .....Now I'm Lost!

Cummins12V98
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Hook it up see how it sits. If you are sitting low of level in the rear add airbags.

The best thing you could do is change the rear leafs to 3500's.
2015 RAM LongHorn 3500 Dually CrewCab 4X4 CUMMINS/AISIN RearAir 385HP/865TQ 4:10's
37,800# GCVWR "Towing Beast"

"HeavyWeight" B&W RVK3600

2016 MobileSuites 39TKSB3 highly "Elited" In the stable

2007.5 Mobile Suites 36 SB3 29,000# Combined SOLD

45Ricochet
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You'll pull that weight easy, the question is will do you have enough drive axle suspension for your hitch weight and what ever is in the bed. As stated the older Mega cabs had those soft spring resulting in low payloads. Without knowing your weights it's pretty hard to give you good advice. Rear axle ratio determines your GCWR or how much it will tow according to the manufacture. Lots of folks tow over GCWR since it's merely a rating, not law. Visit a scale and you'll get better answers.
OBTW no way I would tow 30k lbs even in a new Ram although they are rated close to that figure.
2015 Tiffin Phaeton Cummins ISL, Allison 3000, 45K GCWR
10KW Onan, Magnum Pure Sine Wave Inverter
2015 GMC Canyon Toad

Previous camping rig
06 Ram 3500 CC LB Laramie 4x4 Dually 5.9 Cummins Smarty Jr 48RE Jacobs brake
06 Grand Junction 15500 GVWR 3200 pin