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RVing oversees

RV_Wife
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I am looking for any and all advice regarding RVing oversees. We are in the beginning of planning for this future trip. Right now the RV we have is too big for this journey, but plan to buy a smaller one. Has anyone ever transported their RV between the United States and Europe? If so what information can you share? Cost? Companies that provide the transportation? Are there boondocking opportunities oversees? Any advice, or resources that might be helpful would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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tatest
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Western Europe is definitely a possibility, because people RV there, so there is an infrastructure to support that activity. The facilities sometimes resemble our RV parks (although usually more crowded) but more often a "campground" will be more like boondocking, but usually boondocking for a fee.

The difficulties have to do with how long you can stay as a visitor, and the fact that you are moving around some rather expensive dutiable property. There are ways to work with or work around the customs and immigration restrictions that tend to keep our travel short (often 90 days or less) and make movement of expensive assets problematic.

Some places may let you stay as long as six months as a tourist, and it is not as difficult as formerly for U.S. citizens to move around among countries within the 26 Schengen countries (a subset of the E.U.), but you still won't have the freedom of movement that is the privilege of an E.U. citizen.

Customs fees can be more of a problem, because posting a bond or paying the fees in one country may not cover movement into the next. There are assumptions about what goods are being brought into a country temporarily for the visitor's personal use, what goods are being imported. Motor vehicles from outside the customs union, including RVs, tend not to fall into the first category.

These things can be dealt with, it is much like the problem yacht and private aircraft owners have when moving from port to port, country to country. You can travel all over the world in a RV if you have enough money, patience, and persistence to deal with officialdom.

There are also technical issues. Most RVs sold in the U.S. will have the wrong electrical and LPG systems for the RV infrastructure in Europe (or the U.K.) and things can get more strange as you move beyond the harmonization cloud that is the E.U. There will likely be safety equipment issues, but those modifications are mostly lighting, and relatively simple to have done.

The next problem can be size. Our RVs tend to be large, some as large as motorcoaches, but motorcoaches do get around in Europe, they just can't go all the places smaller vehicles might go. The greater problem with our large RVs will be dealing with the licensing and road tax issues. In most of Europe, anything longer than seven meters, anything heavier than 3500 KG, is a heavy goods vehicle (sometimes presumed commercial), with operator licensing restrictions and special operational requirements. What these are, and what are the thresholds, still varies country to country, so a large RV that is OK in Germany might not operate under the same rules in Italy or the Low Countries.

The best introduction to RVing in Europe might be a short trip, 2-3 weeks, renting a European RV. You will get a feel for the RV lifestyle there, what kinds of places there are to stay, where you can and cannot go (even a European-size motorhome is restricted from many small destination towns), and what it costs. The rental companies will usually take care of the "official" things for the countries where that rental is contracted to go (they do even more of this for escorted tours) but you can get a feel for what it is like moving country to country.

I do see U.S. built Class A motorhomes running around in Western Europe, RVers there like them, import and convert them, and deal with the size issues. Some of the issues are a matter of cost, and if you are wealthy enough to pay the fees... The operator licensing issues are easier for European residents to deal with, they can get the training, pass the medical exams, get the heavy vehicle licenses. This part is not so easy for visitors, who are usually driving on non-commercial licenses issued in their own countries, accepted as a matter of treaty or courtesy.
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path1 wrote:
Read some blogs of people that have already gone to the areas you want to go. Lots of info.

For instance, I was surprised that at places that use butane vs propane.


I was told by a campground operator in France that indoor use required butane and outdoor use, propane was allowed.

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Texas Roadrunner wrote:
Several years ago there were a couple of college professors, who posted on this forum about their experience transporting their 24' Born Free Class C to Europe. As I recall, this was in '07 or '08. They talked about the issues involved with the customs process, etc. I wish I could remember more, however I do remember that they had a blog and recounted their experiences during a summer of travel and where they stored the RV as they planned to return the following summer. It is my best recollection that they were professors somewhere in Michigan.


David & Susan Bratt are from Minnesota. Their site is Our Travels with Rover. Very informative!

EDIT: Unfortunately, it appears that their site is down at the moment. I've sent them a message about it, so we'll see if there is a status update.

Texas_Roadrunn1
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Several years ago there were a couple of college professors, who posted on this forum about their experience transporting their 24' Born Free Class C to Europe. As I recall, this was in '07 or '08. They talked about the issues involved with the customs process, etc. I wish I could remember more, however I do remember that they had a blog and recounted their experiences during a summer of travel and where they stored the RV as they planned to return the following summer. It is my best recollection that they were professors somewhere in Michigan.

Garry_P
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You used to be able to purchase and resell in the EU. Howver, it's very problematic now. To register a vehicle it must be owned by a citizen of an EU country and it appears that no EU company will insure a vehicle owned by a foreigner. You can ship your own over. Here is one couple who did it

path1
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Read some blogs of people that have already gone to the areas you want to go. Lots of info.

For instance, I was surprised that at places that use butane vs propane.

You mention Europe...They have several camping clubs sort of like Thousand trails. http://www.eurocampings.co.uk/

Now would be good time to go, price of dollar. I would rent short term and fly to next area of interest and rent again. But that's me not you.
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We've known quite of few who have bought one over there and easily sold it after touring. Renting is also an option. One thing is that the majority of the ones overseas don't have the typical black holding tank that we're used to dealing with. They use cassette toilets and empty them at the proper disposals. They also have different electric connections than the U.S. does.
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camp-n-family wrote:
Might be more cost effective to buy one over there and then sell it when you are done. The cost of shipping both ways is usually prohibitive. Plus RVs here are not built for European roads or regulations. What happens if you have a breakdown. Will you be able to get parts quickly for a U.S. made RV?

X2

Buy or rent an RV over there and your life will be easier.

camp-n-family
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Might be more cost effective to buy one over there and then sell it when you are done. The cost of shipping both ways is usually prohibitive. Plus RVs here are not built for European roads or regulations. What happens if you have a breakdown. Will you be able to get parts quickly for a U.S. made RV?
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buta4
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Some hints can be found in earthroamer.com.

Search the Adventures section at the site and look for the Bill and Pip Smith trip around the world. Select their trip diary. They traveled the world including Europe, Russia, Mongolia, Japan, etc.

Seems that they had problems with two shippings due to break-ins and theft from their rv plus tire damage.

Some helpful hints on where they boondocked, etc.
Ray

DownTheAvenue
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I think you will find taking your RV overseas not only to be cost prohibitive, but regulations, insurance, and different electricity and possibly other utility hook ups to make the endeavor impossible.

gbopp
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RV_Wife wrote:
Because we're going everywhere! ๐Ÿ™‚


Each to their own. I could spend many, many years traveling in the USA and probably not see everything.

Enjoy your travels here, overseas and everywhere! ๐Ÿ™‚

RV_Wife
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Because we're going everywhere! ๐Ÿ™‚
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2oldman
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I think I'd want to oversee an RV being shipped overseas.
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