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Jul-11-2015 07:38 AM
briansue wrote:Your showing your true colors. Which cartel do you really work for?Here's a second chance. Let's see who or what you blame it on. Please address the issue not my experience in Mexico or Detroit's problems.
If you want to start quoting news items about what happens in this country or that country we could go on all day. Here is one you won't be able to top with anything that happened in Mexico........Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001) was an American terrorist who detonated a truck bomb in front of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995. Commonly referred to as the Oklahoma City bombing, the attack killed 168 people and injured over 600. According to the United States Government, it was the deadliest act of terrorism within the United States prior to the 9/11 attacks, and remains the most significant act of domestic terrorism in United States history.
You pick the acts of a few individuals in Mexico and blame the entire country for their behavior. Imagine what the rest of the world thinks about the US based on news reports. There is crime and there are criminals everywhere. If you are afraid to go to Mexico then don't go. If we look at the world in those terms we would dig a hole in the ground and concrete it all around and go live there and never come out. Fear is what you make it.
There is a very long list of murderers in the US news reports - massacres on school campuses, colleges, movie theaters, the list is far too long to get into here.
Most visitors to Mexico stayed confined in all inclusive resorts and know absolutely nothing about Mexico. MM49 has been on this forum countless times over the years proving he is totally ignorant of any real facts about Mexico. Lets try not to pay any attention to him or anything he has to say - he is from Detroit for goodness sakes!!!
Jul-11-2015 06:36 AM
Here's a second chance. Let's see who or what you blame it on. Please address the issue not my experience in Mexico or Detroit's problems.
Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001) was an American terrorist who detonated a truck bomb in front of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995. Commonly referred to as the Oklahoma City bombing, the attack killed 168 people and injured over 600. According to the United States Government, it was the deadliest act of terrorism within the United States prior to the 9/11 attacks, and remains the most significant act of domestic terrorism in United States history.
Jul-11-2015 05:42 AM
MM49 wrote:
SOS International is an world wide rescue service used all of the fortune 500. Please tell me where they got it wrong. By the I've been working in Mexico longer than you have traveled it. Don't try to BS me.
MM49
Jul-11-2015 05:36 AM
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Jul-11-2015 05:17 AM
Jul-11-2015 05:11 AM
briansue wrote:Here's a second chance. Let's see who or what you blame it on. Please address the issue not my experience in Mexico or Detroit's problems.
MM49,
I am sure you have vast experience traveling in Mexico so probably know a great deal more about it than my over 40 years of traveling there. So instead of telling us what you have read in the yellow press you tell us of some of your personal experience and leave out the media nonsense. I can certainly post some crime statistics about the great state of Michigan where there are some of the world's highest murder rates. If you have nothing of a useful nature based on personal experience maybe you can find another forum where things you actually know about will welcome your vast knowledge.
Jul-11-2015 05:03 AM
Jul-11-2015 04:04 AM
briansue wrote:
MM49,
I am sure you have vast experience traveling in Mexico so probably know a great deal more about it than my over 40 years of traveling there. So instead of telling us what you have read in the yellow press you tell us of some of your personal experience and leave out the media nonsense. I can certainly post some crime statistics about the great state of Michigan where there are some of the world's highest murder rates. If you have nothing of a useful nature based on personal experience maybe you can find another forum where things you actually know about will welcome your vast knowledge.
Jul-10-2015 07:32 PM
Jul-10-2015 06:29 PM
MM49 wrote:briansue wrote:But the type of crimes one is most likely to encounter is the property crime not Murder. Focusing on Murder tells us very little and misses the real point.
I agree - but I did not write the story - I just quoted it. I think it is very difficult to get accurate crime stats anywhere - even the US - where the FBI and Dept. of Justice keep records to make the head swim.
Two points I try to make.......
We should not be judging an entire country - any country - by what happens in certain specific areas. Because there is a lot of crime in some areas does not mean the whole country is a war zone.
People seem to believe they are safe in the US but they won't be safe if they go out of the US. The press does not help. No one thinks the entire US is like Detroit. Why think Mexico is less safe than much of the US?
I am also pointing out what I hear from people in RV parks in the US when we tell them we spend our winters in Mexico. I have been hearing it for over 40 years but more so in recent years with all the cartel stuff. All we hear is the cartels this and the cartels that. If we don't get killed we will be kidnapped or our vehicle will be stolen or just about any crime you can think of will surely happen to us. Well it never has - not in all the years - not one single crime has happened to us in Mexico.
So to try to reply to the question - we think RV travel is down in some areas of Mexico. But in other areas we cannot find a space available. Some RV parks have closed but I think they put themselves out of business by charging too much and providing very little for the money - and requiring US dollars which we do not have in Mexico. How much should we really pay for an overnight stop when all we need is a little electricity? Much easier to find a Pemex where we can park for free. We very much want to support the RV parks in Mexico and we do whenever we can - but many have priced themselves out of business. It is not the idea that we cannot afford to pay but that we are being asked to pay far more than what we get for our money. That said - the same is happening in the US which is why we seem to be evolving into Walmart parkers even though we hate the whole idea.
I'm a member of SOS International. They publish a daily security post for all of the worlds hot spots. How about I re-post the Mexico detail and let you twist it any way you want. There is not a day that goes by without a headline.
MM49
Jul-10-2015 06:22 PM
briansue wrote:But the type of crimes one is most likely to encounter is the property crime not Murder. Focusing on Murder tells us very little and misses the real point.
I agree - but I did not write the story - I just quoted it. I think it is very difficult to get accurate crime stats anywhere - even the US - where the FBI and Dept. of Justice keep records to make the head swim.
Two points I try to make.......
We should not be judging an entire country - any country - by what happens in certain specific areas. Because there is a lot of crime in some areas does not mean the whole country is a war zone.
People seem to believe they are safe in the US but they won't be safe if they go out of the US. The press does not help. No one thinks the entire US is like Detroit. Why think Mexico is less safe than much of the US?
I am also pointing out what I hear from people in RV parks in the US when we tell them we spend our winters in Mexico. I have been hearing it for over 40 years but more so in recent years with all the cartel stuff. All we hear is the cartels this and the cartels that. If we don't get killed we will be kidnapped or our vehicle will be stolen or just about any crime you can think of will surely happen to us. Well it never has - not in all the years - not one single crime has happened to us in Mexico.
So to try to reply to the question - we think RV travel is down in some areas of Mexico. But in other areas we cannot find a space available. Some RV parks have closed but I think they put themselves out of business by charging too much and providing very little for the money - and requiring US dollars which we do not have in Mexico. How much should we really pay for an overnight stop when all we need is a little electricity? Much easier to find a Pemex where we can park for free. We very much want to support the RV parks in Mexico and we do whenever we can - but many have priced themselves out of business. It is not the idea that we cannot afford to pay but that we are being asked to pay far more than what we get for our money. That said - the same is happening in the US which is why we seem to be evolving into Walmart parkers even though we hate the whole idea.