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Any tips for driving 40' class A diesel in snow

frankiebIII
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I've had my motor home for 3 years now. I live in Northern Cal where we have been in a drought and there has been very little snow. I drove my motor home to the mountains last year but did not encounter any snow as we were just below the snow level. Last week I drove my car up to Bear Valley about 3.5 hours away and stayed in a hotel for the night with my young daughter, girlfriend and her son. We were a bit cramped and I kept saying "I wish we drove the motor home up so we could be in luxurary and have more space and seperate sleeping areas." We both thought that driving the motor home in the snow might not be feasible but are we wrong?? I figure people own motor homes in parts of the country that get way more snow then we do. Yes, we could stop about an hour from the ski resort where the chance of snow is slim and drive up the mountain in my toad (AWD Ford Explorer) but then when we were at the mountain last week I saw a sign offering overnight RV parking right at the slopes for $35!!

So I come here looking for guidance. Mind you that this area is different then driving to Lake Tahoe where Hwy 80 is multiple lanes, steep grade and not too winding. Also you could be driving in the snow for hours.
This is single lane, very winding for a short period and only in the snow for the last hour of the drive.

Can it be done?

Do you need chains? If yes,on which tires?

Have YOU done it before?

Would you be better off with a certain type of tire? Snow tire for a motor Home?

Does the heavy weight of the motor home help or hurt?

Could I still tow my car?

Thanks for any feedback!
2005 Monaco Diplomat Quad Slide
Toad 2013 AWD Ford Explorer
Air force one Brake controller
Falcon All terrain tow bar
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rgatijnet1
Explorer III
Explorer III
Gale Hawkins wrote:
What are "instant chains"?


Push a button and Insta-chain.

Gale_Hawkins
Explorer
Explorer
What are "instant chains"?

J-Rooster
Explorer
Explorer
Seamutt wrote:
Don't ever try to keep up with a Greyhound bus in snowy conditions, can't be done no matter what you drive.
They use those instant chains and they have a heavy low center of gravity carrying all that luggage and packages and lots of fuel.

Gale_Hawkins
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Explorer
Just have a plan for a worse case scenario.

Busskipper
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frankiebIII wrote:
First, thanks for all the great responses. But I just want to clarify a few things.

1. Have logged enough miles to be confidant in my driving of this rig. It is my 3rd RV my first being a 34' travel trailer. From day one veteran RV were impressed with my handling of it (being an ex pro tennis player may help with reflexes and hand eye as I was often dodging 120mph shots to my head at net! LOL!)

2. I was NEVER PLANNING ON DRIVING IN A SNOW STORM! I would of course pull over at the first sign of heavy snow. I'm driving my house! Couldn't be stuck in a better place right?
3. I was just wondering if it had dumped 10" a day before and I wanted to head up the next day to get some fresh snow could it be done. The transportation authority sucks at repairing roads but the mountain divisions are very could at clearing them of snow.

4. A very good point about winterizing the rig. Never thought of that.

5. Just to clarify for those of you in the east or north. In California SF Bay Area we are not driving in snow for hours white knuckled just to get somewhere. When you decide to head to the mountains you may only be in snow for 2 hours at the end of a 5 hour drive and sometimes, depending on which resort you go to, only 45 minutes at the end of a 3.5 hrs drive.


I understand driving from NY to Vermont is probably almost all snow the whole way. Very different from here. Yet, that is also who I wanted to hear from since you all have so much more experience.

I think what I'm hearing is........take your time. Don't try to be a snow plow and take on 4 feet of the stuff. Have chains and practice putting them on. Know the weather both when your going and when your planning to leave. Yes, the weight of the motor home can help keep you on the road, however, it will also increase your braking distance. The fact the front of a motor home is lighter with engine in back steering on icy roads could pose a problem.

YES, would love to make the very simple drive to Bear Valley and park in the lot have my own everything, not have to drive out with the crowds and own the mountain........now I've got to figure out how you winterize and what temperature would you need to start thinking about that. I do have heated tanks. Does that mean anything?


1. Confidence is good, just remember itโ€™s normally the other guy you need to worry about โ€“ and dodging a 100 MPH ball is a lot easier than a 5,000 pound car.
2. Never plan on it but if you drive to the snow you will get to or have to drive in it, at some point in time. If the roads are cleared then it should not be a issue.
3. Best time to drive up โ€“ from my experience is the day before โ€“ pretty big crowd on the day after.
4. If you are not needing to winterize the rig at home, then, if I were you, Iโ€™d just start the Generator and keep the Coach warm(not necessary to run all the time but enough to keep the heat up and batteries charged). We keep the water tank full and the heat on ($5-10 for a remote thermometer at Wal*Mart โ€“ just to know) If you are using Propane, be sure you are filled up. Then you might need a snow shovel and a good broom to sweep the snow off. One more tip โ€“ have something that will fit in the basement to put your boots on set them in it and place a small electric heater so that it warms them up and drys them out, warm boots in the Morning thatโ€™s soooo nicee.
5. That will make it easier.

โ€œI think what I'm hearing is........take your timeโ€ Just be smart, and stay in YOUR comfort Zone.

You will be surprised how many people will come over to just TALK โ€“ it is a novel way to Ski.

Now when you get home get a stron little sprinkler and turn it on HIGH then pull it under the coach to wash all the grim off.

Best of Luck and post a picture or two of the rig.
Tiger Run in Breck, CO

Busskipper wrote:
A picture or two, sort of explains it - some clean some don't;







These are all from Tiger Run, in Breck.

BOL


Busskipper
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Kayteg1
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Don't think you need to worry about winterizing in Bear Valley winter.
I had several motorhomes on snow, including cheap Toyota ClassC and never had freezing problems.
We don't have negative temperatures and if that happen, I doubt you will think about going in the first place.
When you have heat on inside the coach, it makes "air bubble" around that keeps even exterior siding warmer than the air few feet away.
Than black tank seem to be resistant to pretty low temperatures and if you have gray water tank just hanging under the coach, you can dump a gallon of antifreeze in it.
I drove to Bear Valley only once years ago, but I80 and I50 summits make for +- 20 miles of snow driving during storm and again, that doesn't happen very often, although we hope for wet El Nino this winter.

rgatijnet1
Explorer III
Explorer III
Now the one thing you have to consider is what you do after you have driven in the snow and camped. What about the snow accumulation on your slides? Do you remove it before you retract them? My coach has the awning toppers and I just slowly retract the slide in small increments, and this allows the snow to drop off. What about the snow accumulation on your roof? I know some states do not like it if you head out on the road with big hunks of snow/ice blowing off of your roof on to the vehicle behind you.
I think I mentioned that I have needed my chains more in the RV Parks that can't deal with the snow to clear their roads. If you are traveling and you are expecting more snow, by the time you want to leave, I would suggest putting on the chains when you get a chance rather than to park, get a foot of snow, and then realize you have to put on the chains to get out of the RV Park.
Basically you learn all of these things with experience but these are just some things to consider. Every coach is different and have different requirements.
When we are traveling in the Winter, I never Winterize the coach. I keep my fresh water tank as close to full as possible. I hook up to electric but do not hook up to water or sewer except to empty my tanks or to top off my fresh water. If it is really going to get cold, like below zero, I run an extension cord and put a 100 watt incandescent bulb in the wet bay near my water pump. This works fine especially since we very seldom run our propane furnace and prefer electric heat inside the coach. This has worked well for us down to -5, which is the coldest we have camped in.

frankiebIII
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Explorer
First, thanks for all the great responses. But I just want to clarify a few things.

1. Have logged enough miles to be confidant in my driving of this rig. It is my 3rd RV my first being a 34' travel trailer. From day one veteran RV were impressed with my handling of it (being an ex pro tennis player may help with reflexes and hand eye as I was often dodging 120mph shots to my head at net! LOL!)

2. I was NEVER PLANNING ON DRIVING IN A SNOW STORM! I would of course pull over at the first sign of heavy snow. I'm driving my house! Couldn't be stuck in a better place right?
3. I was just wondering if it had dumped 10" a day before and I wanted to head up the next day to get some fresh snow could it be done. The transportation authority sucks at repairing roads but the mountain divisions are very could at clearing them of snow.

4. A very good point about winterizing the rig. Never thought of that.

5. Just to clarify for those of you in the east or north. In California SF Bay Area we are not driving in snow for hours white knuckled just to get somewhere. When you decide to head to the mountains you may only be in snow for 2 hours at the end of a 5 hour drive and sometimes, depending on which resort you go to, only 45 minutes at the end of a 3.5 hrs drive.

I understand driving from NY to Vermont is probably almost all snow the whole way. Very different from here. Yet, that is also who I wanted to hear from since you all have so much more experience.

I think what I'm hearing is........take your time. Don't try to be a snow plow and take on 4 feet of the stuff. Have chains and practice putting them on. Know the weather both when your going and when your planning to leave. Yes, the weight of the motor home can help keep you on the road, however, it will also increase your braking distance. The fact the front of a motor home is lighter with engine in back steering on icy roads could pose a problem.

YES, would love to make the very simple drive to Bear Valley and park in the lot have my own everything, not have to drive out with the crowds and own the mountain........now I've got to figure out how you winterize and what temperature would you need to start thinking about that. I do have heated tanks. Does that mean anything?
2005 Monaco Diplomat Quad Slide
Toad 2013 AWD Ford Explorer
Air force one Brake controller
Falcon All terrain tow bar

rgatijnet1
Explorer III
Explorer III
Seamutt wrote:
Don't ever try to keep up with a Greyhound bus in snowy conditions, can't be done no matter what you drive.


Back in the 60's I used to drive the highways quite a bit. You could not keep up with the Greyhound buses no matter what the weather conditions were like. I swear some of them were pushing 100 MPH on the open road at night. :B

Seamutt
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Don't ever try to keep up with a Greyhound bus in snowy conditions, can't be done no matter what you drive.

dubdub07
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We hit snow occasionally going over our passes in CO. In just fresh snow and slushy heavy snow, no issues at all. I have yet to do snowpacked or icy. I bet that is more a challenge and something to be avoided. Even chains on the back would help some, but in snowpack I would think chains on front and back.

WW
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Jagtech
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Chains? Snow tires?? No, you just need to be from Canada :B
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ferndaleflyer
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I used to spend a fortune at ski areas for lodging till one day at 7 Springs Pa I noticed a line of motor homes behind the lodge.....Never again did I cough up a fortune + all the trouble of dragging everything up elevators, going out to eat, etc. From that day on I drove the bus and skied right out my door in PA, WV, NY, VT, even MT Hood OR.....Never got stuck once in many years. That 1st time at 7 Springs it cost $15 to park and I had been paying $300 a night for 2 connecting rooms for us and the kids----no brainer and never had a bit of trouble driving in the snow with the DP

prstlk
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Explorer
With over 100k in rvs and a million over the road here's what I'd advise. Don't drive the bus in a storm, if it gets really crappy find a safe place to pull off and wait it out. Most storms have a short life, monitor the weather to help you decide. In the west you can have a blinding storm one day, sunshine the next, snowplows ahead, life's good again.
There is no reason to white knuckle at 10 mph for 100 miles. When you will have great roads 12/24 hrs later.
Jmho
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