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Got the MH weighed.

dodge_guy
Explorer II
Explorer II
Finally got around to weighing my MH 2012 Georgetown 350TS dry weight 17292. I think something isn’t right. I don’t see how I have over 5klbs of ****. Even full timers don’t pack that. I think I may have to find another CAT scale. This was with full fuel 80 gal and full water 60gal. Me, wife and 2 dogs 30 and 50lbs. I did have 4 bikes on the back that are normally on the Explorer. We tend to pack heavy, but I don’t see me having 5K+ lbs in it!

Dry weight on the door sticker is 17292
GVWR 22k lbs.
Frt axle max 8k lbs.
rear axle max 15k lbs.

weighed weights
Frt axle 6820
Rear axle 15620
Total 22440
Wife Kim
Son Brandon 17yrs
Daughter Marissa 16yrs
Dog Bailey

12 Forest River Georgetown 350TS Hellwig sway bars, BlueOx TrueCenter stabilizer

13 Ford Explorer Roadmaster Stowmaster 5000, VIP Tow>
A bad day camping is
better than a good day at work!
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crawford
Explorer
Explorer
when I had my c class it was even worse it was almost over loaded empty with 1 slide.
Change from a c class to a A class Georgetown 07 triple slide

mountainkowboy
Explorer
Explorer
We rolled through the scale at 6,600 front, 12,700 rear, and 5,500 on the trailer. 500 over our "hitch" weight" but since we have no frame extensions, I ran it. Ours has over 3,300 CCC on the sheet, wet. I doubt that I will ever be over weight. Heck, even maxed out on both axles I have to run the lowest recommended tire pressure on the 19.5's
Chuck & Ruth with 4-legged Molly
2007 Tiffin Allegro 30DA
2011 Ford Ranger
1987 HD FLHTP

dodge_guy
Explorer II
Explorer II
willald wrote:
I can tell you from firsthand experience here recently, that you would be surprised at all the 'stuff' you accumulate over time in an RV, and how the weight of all of it can add up.

We just traded our Georgetown bunkhouse model in about a month ago for a smaller (but much nicer) unit, a Newmar 3014 (see signature). As part of that, we unloaded everything from the Georgetown, went through it all, and decided what to keep, put in the new Motorhome, and what to take out. It took several weeks, as this resulted in some extensive 'de-cluttering'.

Let me tell you, there was soooooo much stuff in that Georgetown that I had forgotten was there, that we did not need! I would guess we 'shed' a good 1,000 pounds worth of stuff that we are no longer carrying in the new unit. It truly felt like moving/downsizing to a smaller house, haha.


I weighed the Georgetown many years ago shortly after we bought it in 2012, and remember being well below the limits, then. I'm sure over the years that changed. I have not weighed the Newmar, yet, but I will soon, and will see where we are.

Anyway, good job on getting it weighed, even though what you found probably wasn't what you wanted to hear. As far as ways to slim down:
Unless you boondock for several days at a time, you can probably get by with a lot less water in your fresh water tank. That alone can shave off several hundred pounds That, and just go through all the various storage compartments, drawers, etc. and decide if you really, really need all that is in there. We found there is a lot we did not need. Do you *really* need enough plates, silverware, etc. to feed 8 or 10 people at a time? Do you really need the accumulation of 10 blankets and sets of sheets? You may well find like we did, that a lot of the stuff you have in there really doesn't need to be there.

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I agree completely. I only filled the water at home because we have Lake Michigan water. Didn’t want the terrible campground water in the fresh tank. In fact when I got home I flushed out the lines and water heater so it won’t have that rotten egg smell next month.
Wife Kim
Son Brandon 17yrs
Daughter Marissa 16yrs
Dog Bailey

12 Forest River Georgetown 350TS Hellwig sway bars, BlueOx TrueCenter stabilizer

13 Ford Explorer Roadmaster Stowmaster 5000, VIP Tow>
A bad day camping is
better than a good day at work!

willald
Explorer II
Explorer II
I can tell you from firsthand experience here recently, that you would be surprised at all the 'stuff' you accumulate over time in an RV, and how the weight of all of it can add up.

We just traded our Georgetown bunkhouse model in about a month ago for a smaller (but much nicer) unit, a Newmar 3014 (see signature). As part of that, we unloaded everything from the Georgetown, went through it all, and decided what to keep, put in the new Motorhome, and what to take out. It took several weeks, as this resulted in some extensive 'de-cluttering'.

Let me tell you, there was soooooo much stuff in that Georgetown that I had forgotten was there, that we did not need! I would guess we 'shed' a good 1,000 pounds worth of stuff that we are no longer carrying in the new unit. It truly felt like moving/downsizing to a smaller house, haha.

I weighed the Georgetown many years ago shortly after we bought it in 2012, and remember being well below the limits, then. I'm sure over the years that changed. I have not weighed the Newmar, yet, but I will soon, and will see where we are.

Anyway, good job on getting it weighed, even though what you found probably wasn't what you wanted to hear. As far as ways to slim down:
Unless you boondock for several days at a time, you can probably get by with a lot less water in your fresh water tank. That alone can shave off several hundred pounds That, and just go through all the various storage compartments, drawers, etc. and decide if you really, really need all that is in there. We found there is a lot we did not need. Do you *really* need enough plates, silverware, etc. to feed 8 or 10 people at a time? Do you really need the accumulation of 10 blankets and sets of sheets? You may well find like we did, that a lot of the stuff you have in there really doesn't need to be there.

.
Will and Cheryl
2021 Newmar Baystar 3014 on F53 (7.3 V8) Chassis ("Brook")
2018 Jeep Wrangler JK ("Wilbur")

Dale_Traveling
Explorer II
Explorer II
Pull the bikes off the back end and check the weight of the coach again. You only see an overall drop equal to the weight of the bikes and carrier but you'll also see a large drop of weight off the rear axle and a gain of weight on the front axle. The further back you get from the rear axle the greater the effect on the load on the rear axle. The chassis will act like a lever with the fulcrum at the axle.

Blue Ox has an easy formula to help potential buyers of motorcycle lifts to help determine how much weight the lift and bike will add to the rear axle. Using my gas coach with a 1/3 of the coach behind the rear axle adding 120 lbs of bike and carrier to the hitch receiver increase rear axle loading my 225 lbs.

Might not solve all your weight problems but will give a good head start. I will empty the coach each spring of everything and any item I could recall using the prior year doesn't go back into the coach.

Blue Ox Rear Axle Loading Information
2006 Hurricane 31D built on a 2006 Ford F53

dodge_guy
Explorer II
Explorer II
Yankee Clipper wrote:
FWIW, I don't think manufacturer's dry weight ratings are worth a hoot. It's really what you roll out of the chocks that counts. In my rig, the functional weight is 21,300, which is 700 under max gross...good enough for me. Toad is 3400, which is 1600 under hitch rating: what with EvenBrake, we're okay.
Junk in the coach and basement storage accumulates quickly. JMHO


Yes, a lot of storage is nice, but you can fill it very quickly!

Just doing a quick inventory in my head I can come up with 500lbs. And I know there is another 500 in there that’s unnecessary. 10 chairs? Really! Washers and Bocce ball I never play. Bags I only play once a year? And why do I have a 10 year old Xbox over the bed? I put it in there when we traded in the TT and never took it out.
Why do I have 7 pieces of outdoors cooking equipment? Small Weber charcoal grille, Black stone flattop, LP griddle, LP grille, LP table top stove, electric table top stove, and a tripod grille for campfires!
So out it all comes before our next trip. Then I will weigh it again.
Wife Kim
Son Brandon 17yrs
Daughter Marissa 16yrs
Dog Bailey

12 Forest River Georgetown 350TS Hellwig sway bars, BlueOx TrueCenter stabilizer

13 Ford Explorer Roadmaster Stowmaster 5000, VIP Tow>
A bad day camping is
better than a good day at work!

Yankee_Clipper
Explorer
Explorer
FWIW, I don't think manufacturer's dry weight ratings are worth a hoot. It's really what you roll out of the chocks that counts. In my rig, the functional weight is 21,300, which is 700 under max gross...good enough for me. Toad is 3400, which is 1600 under hitch rating: what with EvenBrake, we're okay.
Junk in the coach and basement storage accumulates quickly. JMHO
Yankee Clipper
2014 Winnebago Sightseer 33C on Ford F53 6.8l V10
2014 Honda CRV 4 down toad/Roadmaster Falcon2 with EvenBrake
TireMinder TPMS,Tiger, the Little Big Man minidachshund,
Rosey the minidachshund resident Princess-in-Chief

dodge_guy
Explorer II
Explorer II
well I`ve come to the conclusion that George is going on a diet before our next trip. I`m sure I can get rid of 1000lbs easy.
Wife Kim
Son Brandon 17yrs
Daughter Marissa 16yrs
Dog Bailey

12 Forest River Georgetown 350TS Hellwig sway bars, BlueOx TrueCenter stabilizer

13 Ford Explorer Roadmaster Stowmaster 5000, VIP Tow>
A bad day camping is
better than a good day at work!

atsrmf
Explorer
Explorer
My 27' Gulfstream weighed in at 11,100 lbs total, including fuel, water, and driver/passenger.

John_S_
Explorer II
Explorer II
We weighed all the coaches at a rally and all of the single axles with a slide were overweight.
John
2015 Born Free Royal Splendor on a Ford 550
2018 Rubicon
Boo Boo a Mi Kie
42' 36' & 34 Foretravels sold
2007 Born free 24 sold
2001 Wrangler sold
2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland sold
Susie Dolly, Lolly &Doodle (CKC) now in our hearts and thoughts

jorbill2or
Explorer II
Explorer II
The dirty little secret is probably most RV’s are overweight going down the road and don’t know it , because few actual weigh their rv’s . 2-3 thousand lbs of capacity disappears very quickly. As we want more and more things , manufacturers make them very close to overloaded.. Add water , waste tanks , case of beer , clothes bikes bedding etc. we carry it in 1lb at a time. It adds up
Bill

wa8yxm
Explorer III
Explorer III
100 gallons of water is 800 pounds
Fuel about the same
"Stuff" adds up faster than you think.
Home was where I park it. but alas the.
2005 Damon Intruder 377 Alas declared a total loss
after a semi "nicked" it. Still have the radios
Kenwood TS-2000, ICOM ID-5100, ID-51A+2, ID-880 REF030C most times

JRscooby
Explorer II
Explorer II
dodge guy wrote:
Yes it’s only 440 over and 620 over on the rear axle. I know it is t much, but I was hoping I had some cushion. I know I can lose 500 lbs without the bikes and less water.
I may have to put the MH on a diet. Going to have to talk to the wife too! Anyone want to sign up for that talk for me? :E


I bet that we would all be surprised at how high the percentage of RVs are way over their ratings. And even worse, IMHO, is most of the drivers have know idea how fat they be running.

BTW, if you weighed on a Cat, no point in hunting another. The number is all they sell, they contract to pay to defend their numbers in court, and pay fine if proven off. They are good at making sure the scale is right.

crawford
Explorer
Explorer
What size tires 22.5 or 19.5 is 22.5 max air pressure it will ride tuft but it can handle it they are truck tires but the other ones remove 3/4 of water that along should come close to that weight and max you air for tire weight carrying weight capacity. If you had a c class I would worry like I had before then I would worry but not a Class.
Change from a c class to a A class Georgetown 07 triple slide