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House Power issue

Vintmxman
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I am having a very difficult time finding and fixing what is wrong with my coach. Basically I have no 12 volt power. When plugged into shore power every functions as it should. When unplugged I have no lights in the coach but the Benny will start. I have replacing the convertor/ charger, the battery disconnect switch and the house battery with no luck. Stumped on what to do next. All fuses are good as well. I hear no click when I moved the battery discontent switch but don't know where the controlling solenoid is....
Please help .....

2006 thor four winds 5000 P.O.S.
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wolfe10
Explorer
Explorer
JMKEELIN wrote:
When my generator is run I have power to run A/C and frig. swithes from propane to electric But when I connect land power 110 volts 30 amp frig/AC does not work. When I checked recepitcals out with plug tester and it shows Hot/GRD reverse which does not make sence to me. Any suggestions?


Either you coach is mis wired or the outlet is miswired.

Is this a new issue? Have you experienced it in other CG's?
Brett Wolfe
Ex: 2003 Alpine 38'FDDS
Ex: 1997 Safari 35'
Ex: 1993 Foretravel U240

Diesel RV Club:http://www.dieselrvclub.org/

tenbear
Explorer
Explorer
JMKEELIN wrote:
When my generator is run I have power to run A/C and frig. swithes from propane to electric But when I connect land power 110 volts 30 amp frig/AC does not work. When I checked recepitcals out with plug tester and it shows Hot/GRD reverse which does not make sence to me. Any suggestions?

Have you checked your tester in your house? If it works there, then your MH has a problem. Has your MH ever worked right? Any recent work done? Do all receptacles have this problem?
Class C, 2004/5 Four Winds Dutchman Express 28A, Chevy chassis
2010 Subaru Impreza Sedan
Camped in 45 states, 7 Provinces and 1 Territory

wolfe10
Explorer
Explorer
JMKEELIN wrote:
When my generator is run I have power to run A/C and frig. swithes from propane to electric But when I connect land power 110 volts 30 amp frig/AC does not work. When I checked recepitcals out with plug tester and it shows Hot/GRD reverse which does not make sence to me. Any suggestions?


Either you coach is mis wired or the outlet is miswired.

Is this a new issue? Have you experienced it in other CG's?
Brett Wolfe
Ex: 2003 Alpine 38'FDDS
Ex: 1997 Safari 35'
Ex: 1993 Foretravel U240

Diesel RV Club:http://www.dieselrvclub.org/

JMKEELIN
Explorer
Explorer
When my generator is run I have power to run A/C and frig. swithes from propane to electric But when I connect land power 110 volts 30 amp frig/AC does not work. When I checked recepitcals out with plug tester and it shows Hot/GRD reverse which does not make sence to me. Any suggestions?

Bordercollie
Explorer
Explorer
Have you contacted Thor, or whoever currently owns Thor, or a Thor dealer for help?

StevenMarla
Explorer
Explorer
My friend and I and looked again and to no avail. I even called Camping World Service Dept. The gal told me that I should be in the right area or under the hood. We checked in the engine compartment and found another electrical center. Nothing looks like the battery disconnect solenoids I found on line.

Argh.. Looks like a service appt to Camping World is next.

Thanks for the help anyway.

Bordercollie
Explorer
Explorer
Recommend all RV owners buy a cheap multi-meter, read the directions, and learn how to use it to check 12 volt DC voltages as well as electrical continuity, (to see if a fuse is burnt) Be verrry careful checking any 120 volt AC voltages,danger of electrocution!! If you can, get an electrical schematic for your rig from the maker and spend some time understanding the schematic symbols and connections. Take a look at how your RV generator is grounded and connected to the 120 volt system. Learn how the emergeny start system works. Understand how the shore cable plugs into the generator (or) how the automatic transfer switch provides 120 volt AC shore or generator power into the RV. Learn how the roof AC unit needs to "rest" for 10 minutes when shutting it down and turning it back on as when switching from generator to shore power.

Next find your converter/charger and note the heavy guage wires are securely connected to it with allen type set screws, these go toward your house battery(s) through a solenoid relay and which is connected to your house battery disconnect switch. There may be some automotive type fuses and circuit breakers in the circuits, on a power distribution panel and also some more fuses located near the battery(s. Look at your house batteries and the cables and connectors clamped to the terminals. There may also be some smaller guage wires attached to the battery connectors with ring terminals make note of their colors and what terminals etc., they are connected to for future reference. The connectors will need to be removed from battery terminals and cleaned with a wire brush. Electrolyte levels need to be checked once every two months and distilled water may need to be added to keep electrolyte levels above the plates. Find your fresh water pump and it's wiring including a small Intellitec device that connects to remote water pump switches. There are a lot more 12 volt wires and connections to things like the furnace, and electronic controls on appliances that must make good contact for them to work and work properly. Having a good general understanding of 12 and 120 volt electrical systems, and where components are located, will/may help you when electrical problems arise out on the trail. Have a good selection of fuses and spare 12 volt light bulbs, maybe some electrical tape and some crimp type connectors and splices, a crimping tool, wire stripper, wire cutters and some wire will come in handy for repairs on the road.

Note: Fully charged house batteries read around 12.6 "resting" volts some hours after being charged by the converter charger While being charged from the converter charger , batteries should read around 13.6 volts. With engine running and being charged by the engine's alternator, batteries may read around 14 volts.

Having some understanding of how to troubleshoot and fix 12 volt electrical system problems or at least being able to describe problems to a technician will come in handy.

Snowman9000
Explorer
Explorer
Vintmxman wrote:
tenbear wrote:
Glad you found the problem, thanks for letting us know.


So Am I...very frustrating and costly problem to find.....the only bonus is I am now extremely familiar with my RV wiring and electrical operation....


Yeah, consider it tuition. I've been there too. Take notes!
Currently RV-less but not done yet.

tenbear
Explorer
Explorer
StevenMarla wrote:
I called Thor and the service tech told me to look hard under the master bed. In some other wires is a red 6 gauge going to a two terminal little grey box. The copper wire terminal will have a reset button. The silver terminal will not. The problem is, I still can't find any of this he described.


Under my bed, on the passenger side, is a covered area. If I remove the cover, all the wiring is exposed. Near the front of this compartment is the battery disconnect relay and a wire from that runs back to an automotive circuit breaker, then to the battery. I don't remember the color, but maybe the "little grey box" is the circuit breaker. My circuit breaker went bad and I had to replace it. I can't send a photo because I redid all that wiring when I replaced my converter.
Class C, 2004/5 Four Winds Dutchman Express 28A, Chevy chassis
2010 Subaru Impreza Sedan
Camped in 45 states, 7 Provinces and 1 Territory

Cousin_Eddie93
Explorer
Explorer
This happened to mine once, lost all house DC power including the "Benny." Fortunately I found a big red button behind the converter under the living room sofa bed. Push it back in and eureka, all accessory DC power was restored. But honestly, I would have never have found it if I didn't have my rigs original electrical schematic diagrams. The reset switch was indeed buried under there.

StevenMarla
Explorer
Explorer
I'm having the same problem on my 2008 FW Hurricane 34B.

I ran my house batteries so low I ended up replacing the aged batteries. No house power. I start the Gen and about 15 seconds later the house power kicks on.

I called Thor and the service tech told me to look hard under the master bed. In some other wires is a red 6 gauge going to a two terminal little grey box. The copper wire terminal will have a reset button. The silver terminal will not. The problem is, I still can't find any of this he described.

I'm hoping the original poster took a pic of what he found to post up for me.

I'm headed to the rv first thing to look again. We've got a trip to Blaine Friday for a few days. We'll be in Vancouver most of the time.

j-d
Explorer II
Explorer II
Under the BED. Great access and troubleshooting location.

Glad you found it and everything's running!
If God's Your Co-Pilot Move Over, jd
2003 Jayco Escapade 31A on 2002 Ford E450 V10 4R100 218" WB

Vintmxman
Explorer
Explorer
tenbear wrote:
Glad you found the problem, thanks for letting us know.


So Am I...very frustrating and costly problem to find.....the only bonus is I am now extremely familiar with my RV wiring and electrical operation....

tenbear
Explorer
Explorer
Glad you found the problem, thanks for letting us know.
Class C, 2004/5 Four Winds Dutchman Express 28A, Chevy chassis
2010 Subaru Impreza Sedan
Camped in 45 states, 7 Provinces and 1 Territory