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Induction cook tops in most new Coaches?

DwnSth
Explorer
Explorer
We're in the market for a diesel pusher within the next year - finally making the jump from travel trailer. While at the Tampa show last week, we noticed almost all new diesel coaches seem to have the induction ranges. I've had a hard enough time convincing myself that the residential fridge will not consume all my battery capacity but the induction cook top can't possibly be expected to run on the battery bank. Why have the manufactures gone this route? It's nearly impossible to find gas fridge anymore, now the induction range has become a deal killer for us. The Tiffen Red was the only one we found that actually had both gas fridge and gas range still available. Are there any others brands out there or has the industry simply moved on? Not sure why anyone would need the 4 coach batteries and solar any longer when it seems you will be forced into full hookup or running the generator.

Of course, coming from TT and not wanting to use generator every day I may simply be missing the point. Still like to dry camp and keep gen. use to minimum.

Wish the manufacturers would offer gas fridge and range at least as options.
2014 Berkshire 360QL
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pianotuna
Nomad III
Nomad III
ty fortytwo

Which one is the favorite?
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

fortytwo
Explorer
Explorer
pianotuna, Tratimona=Model 1500/103 1500 watt; Copper Chef=ModelKC 16007-00300 1300 watt; NuWave Model=30351 1500 watt.
Wes
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RFCN2
Explorer
Explorer
We have a 15 year old all electric coach with a couple of large solar panels on top and one of those inefficient glass top electric stoves. We boon dock all the time. Just did last week at a Bluegrass festival in Blythe. Our coach boon docks fine because we have 4 large batteries (8D) just for the house. Plus I turn stuff off when you are not using it. And we use our near instant heat Weber BBQ for much of our cooking. We like cooking outdoors especially when boon-docking. We also have a microwave convection oven. Works great. My wife went to a class for it twice at two different FMCA rallies.

My wife wants me to buy induction stuff. If it ain't broke don't fix it. To me the electric stove we have works fine. Just takes a little longer than gas.

No propane is a good thing.

Most but not all motorhome makers put in what they can make the most money on. Period.
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DwnSth
Explorer
Explorer
Tiffen Red and Newmar seem to still have gas stoves and even in some cases gas fridge. National parks limit generator times which also affects how we might consider using generator to cook etc. If I was looking for a 45ft tag axle coach, I wouldn't expect much consideration into weather off-grid means anything more than tail gating. However, we're trying to stay under 36ft so it seems there are some choices still as far as gas appliances.

Now, will anyone make a dual stove, induction above a gas 😉
2014 Berkshire 360QL

pianotuna
Nomad III
Nomad III
What make and model are the burners?

fortytwo wrote:
I have 3 of the portable one burner Induction systems.
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

sherlywang
Explorer
Explorer
I have a 6k propane generator, lasts about 4 hours on a 20lb tank, but since propane is for ever I plan on getting a large tank installed and feeding my dryer, generator and stove from the one tank.

I'm happy with mine. how ever it's important to remember that power from propane will cost you double the cost of power from diesel fuel as propane has a lot less "energy" when compared to diesel.


I recently find a website which is a manufacturer. I like its portable genst which is beautiful.

fortytwo
Explorer
Explorer
I have 3 of the portable one burner Induction systems. They heat faster, somewhat like a microwave. However, the 3 I have heat very unevenly. I have measured over 300 degrees difference from the hottest spot in the skillet/pan and the coolest. And the hot spot is not always in the center. The temp numbers settings are wildly off, and vary from time to time. On my most accurate one on the 210 degree setting I get from 190 - 320 in a Copper Chef skillet. My best guess: Chinese electronics. I keep an IR thermometer nearby to check temps. A cast iron utensil helps smooth out the variation, but it still exists.

I have a Copper Chef model, a NuWave model, and a Tramontina. The latter is the most accurate; the NuWave the worst - actually it's unusable.

Haven't used one of the cooktop replacement models. Hopefully they are more accurate.
Wes
"A beach house isn't just real estate. It's a state of mind." Pole Sitter in Douglas Adams MOSTLY HARMLESS

Blaster_Man
Explorer
Explorer
pianotuna wrote:
Have you actually measured the consumption? My NuWave on the highest possible setting draws 1300 watts or about 12 amps. However run times are not terribly long--so possibly it might use 30 amp-hours per day.

Blaster Man wrote:
Same for the Induction cook top, it uses more than the refer, but is much better and safer than propane.


Seven amps on a True Induction.

http://www.trueinduction.com/
2014 American Eagle

Ivylog
Explorer III
Explorer III
Most SS pots/pans will work on induction as most will hold a magnet...not pure SS. We have two portable units...one for the house and one for the RV. We boondock often and even before going residential refrigerator and induction you crack the generator when using any high amp item.
Yes I could use the inverter but 15 amps AC is 150 amps DC and even if you only do this for 10 minutes you have sucked a lot of life out of your batteries. Why do this when you need to run your generator to charge your batteries 1-2 hour/day even without any high amp power draws. :S
This post is my opinion (free advice). It is not intended to influence anyone's judgment nor do I advocate anyone do what I propose.
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Thunder_Mountai
Explorer II
Explorer II
We bought an 1800 watt single NuWave cook top for outside use this winter. Induction is the way to go. It replaced out electric skillet and second convection toaster oven. Cooks bacon perfectly without splattering. Cooks veggies perfectly. 5 degree increments on temp setting. So hooked on induction are we that we purchased a two burner model for inside to replace the gas cook top. Yes, it might not be a good option for dry camping or for an RV with small inverter. Yes, you will have to replace your old cookware with induction compatible cookware.

Don't confuse induction with the old electric glass topped stove. It was the worst cooktop we ever had. Not the same thing. If we could afford it, we would dump our expensive dual fuel Jennair at home.
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pianotuna
Nomad III
Nomad III
I solved the 2 circuit issue by installing a dedicated inverter outlet in the kitchen thus doubling the power I could use. It is quite convenient to have a 120 volt outlet that is always available at the push of a button.
Regards, Don
My ride is a 28 foot Class C, 256 watts solar, 556 amp-hours of Telcom jars, 3000 watt Magnum hybrid inverter, Sola Basic Autoformer, Microair Easy Start.

Mile_High
Explorer
Explorer
Using one burner on RV Induction cooktops is great, the problem comes in when you use two. Unless the manufacturers run two circuits on the new ones these days, the induction cooktop would put out 1300 Watts on a 15A circuit (some later were 1800 on a 20A circuit) whether it was one burner or shared over two. The one we had would boil water on one burner, but add the second burner and it had to share power accross the two. Gas never had that issue.
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jorbill2or
Explorer II
Explorer II
old guy wrote:
as an old firefighter, open flame bad. induction stove good. I like the new induction stoves. I bet that many people who have had kitchen fires wish they had them years ago. one thing you did not mention is the fact that all the coaches with induction stoves have no ovens. they rely on the convection microwaves


They don’t have a GAS oven. They do have a convection OVEN . I really believe when someone says convection / microwave ALL people hear is microwave, and know those cookies and roast don’t do well in a microwave so they can’t possably bake properly with it. . The convection part never registers. The gas ovens in rv’s are terrible with hotspots and uneven cooking. An electric convection oven has no hotspots generally and still cooks with good old fashioned heat .. up to 450 ? I believe , not microwaves unless of course you want to. We’ve had a full size convection oven at home for 15 years so it was a no brainer for the DW. and even I figured it out !
Bill

MetalGator
Nomad
Nomad
old guy wrote:
one thing you did not mention is the fact that all the coaches with induction stoves have no ovens. they rely on the convection microwaves


I don't miss our old gas oven in our travel trailer. The oven took forever to cook anything. I was also skeptical of the convection microwaves but ours cooks better than the old gas oven. You can't broil anything but we couldn't do that in the gas oven either. We really don't use the microwave for anything but the convection mode works well.

The only appliances that run on propane on our Motorhome is the furnace and the electric/propane hot water heater. I do like having the quick connect propane connection on the outside of the RV for my small gas grill.

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