โSep-10-2016 05:33 AM
โSep-13-2016 10:55 AM
โSep-13-2016 05:12 AM
Lantley wrote:Old Soldier wrote:Lantley wrote:moisheh wrote:
Everyone should be aware that Lippert is the largest supplier of components to the RV industry. They have been buying up smaller companies. They build frames for much of the TT mfrs. These frames like most of Lipperts stuff are junk. Same for their slide outs. Probably cost the mfrs. less than other slide out systems. I don't think you see that Lippert c--p on mid to high end units. Winnie loves their stuff.
Moisheh
What other slide out systems? Lippert is the only game in town.
Once again we read of problems only and want to condemn everything.
We don't hear of the LCI products that are working fine.
If Lippert is so bad why has no competitor step in and taken away market share?
Why is Lippert able to expand into other areas. RV manufacturers are using lippert more not less.
For the record Winnebago is one of the better more financially sound RV manufactures. LCI stuff is prevalent across all RV lines.
What's funny is that this thread condemns Lippert because a motor failed...and the OP could not diagnose and fix problem himself.
Motors fail ... it happens however there is no need to throw Lippeert under the bus over the issue. The entire thread is a lot of LCI bashing based on nothing.
Here we go again. Someone running their mouth without doing any research. 'only game in town'? Really? Let's see, HWH, Liftco, and Accu Slide are manufacturers of slide mechanisms.
As for RV manufacturers using MORE of LCI stuff, it's because of the price to manufacturers. They're using a bunch of cheap Chinese junk and able to offer a lower price. It's gonna bite the manufacturers in the butt by doing so.
I for one would gladly pay more for a product and have it made in USA and give me better reliability.
Could have But you didn't. You purchased the same massed produce stuff that 90% of the RV world uses. LCI is a much bigger company with way more market share than those companies you listed.
My point is LCI is expanding their business not Accu-slide or any of the others.
Is that LCI's fault? As you found out it's hard yo buy an RV without LCI components. Is that because LCI is terrible? Is it because there is little competition? Not sure but LCI continues to expand and consumers continue to buy their stuff.
In the end I imagine it's because price is always the driving factor.
RV consumers claim we want better but in the end we are not willing to pay and the premium manufacturers that use better material continue to fall to the wayside.
โSep-13-2016 05:10 AM
RodLyle wrote:
I had the same problem. But Lippert was very helpful. I went right to the motor put a cable from car battery on it. NO POWER.......replaced the motor.
Took old motor had it tested at a shop IT WORKED needed new brushes. COST
75 bucks.......anyone need a pump motor? Send me a PM
โSep-13-2016 05:04 AM
Old Soldier wrote:Lantley wrote:moisheh wrote:
Everyone should be aware that Lippert is the largest supplier of components to the RV industry. They have been buying up smaller companies. They build frames for much of the TT mfrs. These frames like most of Lipperts stuff are junk. Same for their slide outs. Probably cost the mfrs. less than other slide out systems. I don't think you see that Lippert c--p on mid to high end units. Winnie loves their stuff.
Moisheh
What other slide out systems? Lippert is the only game in town.
Once again we read of problems only and want to condemn everything.
We don't hear of the LCI products that are working fine.
If Lippert is so bad why has no competitor step in and taken away market share?
Why is Lippert able to expand into other areas. RV manufacturers are using lippert more not less.
For the record Winnebago is one of the better more financially sound RV manufactures. LCI stuff is prevalent across all RV lines.
What's funny is that this thread condemns Lippert because a motor failed...and the OP could not diagnose and fix problem himself.
Motors fail ... it happens however there is no need to throw Lippeert under the bus over the issue. The entire thread is a lot of LCI bashing based on nothing.
Here we go again. Someone running their mouth without doing any research. 'only game in town'? Really? Let's see, HWH, Liftco, and Accu Slide are manufacturers of slide mechanisms.
As for RV manufacturers using MORE of LCI stuff, it's because of the price to manufacturers. They're using a bunch of cheap Chinese junk and able to offer a lower price. It's gonna bite the manufacturers in the butt by doing so.
I for one would gladly pay more for a product and have it made in USA and give me better reliability.
โSep-13-2016 04:31 AM
โSep-13-2016 04:13 AM
Lantley wrote:moisheh wrote:
Everyone should be aware that Lippert is the largest supplier of components to the RV industry. They have been buying up smaller companies. They build frames for much of the TT mfrs. These frames like most of Lipperts stuff are junk. Same for their slide outs. Probably cost the mfrs. less than other slide out systems. I don't think you see that Lippert c--p on mid to high end units. Winnie loves their stuff.
Moisheh
What other slide out systems? Lippert is the only game in town.
Once again we read of problems only and want to condemn everything.
We don't hear of the LCI products that are working fine.
If Lippert is so bad why has no competitor step in and taken away market share?
Why is Lippert able to expand into other areas. RV manufacturers are using lippert more not less.
For the record Winnebago is one of the better more financially sound RV manufactures. LCI stuff is prevalent across all RV lines.
What's funny is that this thread condemns Lippert because a motor failed...and the OP could not diagnose and fix problem himself.
Motors fail ... it happens however there is no need to throw Lippeert under the bus over the issue. The entire thread is a lot of LCI bashing based on nothing.
โSep-13-2016 03:09 AM
moisheh wrote:
Everyone should be aware that Lippert is the largest supplier of components to the RV industry. They have been buying up smaller companies. They build frames for much of the TT mfrs. These frames like most of Lipperts stuff are junk. Same for their slide outs. Probably cost the mfrs. less than other slide out systems. I don't think you see that Lippert c--p on mid to high end units. Winnie loves their stuff.
Moisheh
โSep-12-2016 03:43 PM
moisheh wrote:
Everyone should be aware that Lippert is the largest supplier of components to the RV industry. They have been buying up smaller companies. They build frames for much of the TT mfrs. These frames like most of Lipperts stuff are junk. Same for their slide outs. Probably cost the mfrs. less than other slide out systems. I don't think you see that Lippert c--p on mid to high end units. Winnie loves their stuff.
Moisheh
โSep-12-2016 02:46 PM
โSep-12-2016 03:12 AM
lakebum wrote:
I feel your pain...
We had a similar experience on a recent 1500 mile trip, but no slides or levelers and LCI told me we needed to replace the $800 electric hydraulic motor, which I did on my own, only to discover that the solenoid was also bad, replace that ($100), then tested numerous times, everything worked like it should.
Then went our our first trip and tried to drop the levelers and the motor, wires all all smoked!!!, filled up the coach with smoke. No slide or levelers.
Called our dealer and earliest appointment was a couple of days short of ONE month away (which is this Tuesday) However they tell me it could still be 3-4 weeks BEFORE they even look at it. Then have to fix it.
We have an annual family trip that we go on every year for the lat 20 years, however this year was even bigger as family has grown and we have 8 site and cabins.
Not a "happy camper"
โSep-11-2016 05:25 PM
โSep-11-2016 09:19 AM
Bird Freak wrote:
Is it me or is this new member just a LCI troll. First he is bashing a product because a part failed, it happens on everything man made period. The owners warranty and service dealer gave him a run around about parts availability and cost. I saw no fault of lippert here. Just some one bashing a product and a problem that really has nothing to do with him. I call TROLL.
โSep-11-2016 07:39 AM
Old Soldier wrote:
Another reason I don't like LCI products. Check this video out. It tella one how to override the Schwintek slide system in the event of problems while traveling. I can't even imagine the nigh mare this would be on the road.
https://youtu.be/xojUdPDWNS0
โSep-11-2016 07:26 AM
โSep-11-2016 05:24 AM
Old Soldier wrote:
Another reason I don't like LCI products. Check this video out. It tella one how to override the Schwintek slide system in the event of problems while traveling. I can't even imagine the nigh mare this would be on the road.
https://youtu.be/xojUdPDWNS0