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looking for owners of 2004-2005 Pace Arrows

Jim_Bakker
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I'd like to make contact with others who own one of the new (2004, 2005) Pace Arrows so we can share experiences, problems, good things, etc.
Jim and Suzi Bakker
Carmichael, CA

2004 Pace Arrow 36B, Workhorse W22
Ultrapower upgrade
2006 Honda CR-V
1,941 REPLIES 1,941

FreshAir
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Explorer
I have a 2005 Pace I ordered. Ist year, 2005, the louvered window in BR above vanity foged and Fleetwood replaced. No other problems with any windows untill this year. Same window as before started fogging. All others are good. Knock on wood. Go figure?
05 Pace Arrow, 36,B W24, SMI Braking, KVH R4 Satelite Dome,
Winegard Traveler Sat. Dish.
Pressure Pro tire system.
2011 Silverado 4x4 toad.

Lobstah
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Explorer
Paul and Sue,
Just googled them. There was a post from here that came up, not exactly a glowing recommendation. More and more, it looks like replacement is the only solution?

Jim
2005 Pace Arrow 36D
Very Understanding Wife
1 Boxer ๐Ÿ˜ž
3 Maine Coon cats

Paul_Turpin
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Explorer
Lobstah wrote:
Gary,
Glad you posted that. I'm having the same issue...started with passenger front, and I saw the rear bedroom "escape hatch" doing the same thing on our last trip out. I posted in the main forum but never received a response from anyone. We CAN'T be the only ones experiencing this? And there has to be a way to get in there with something...can't see replacing the whole window.

Jim


Jim,
we also are having the same problem with seven of our windows. Have been reading a lot of good things about www.suncoastdesigners.com fixing the problem. They are in Florida and we are in Ohio now and might go down that way to get them repaired.
Paul and Sue
2004 Pace Arrow 37C
Workhorse
2006 Saturn Ion

Lobstah
Explorer
Explorer
Well...there you go. Another reason not to try it.

Jim
2005 Pace Arrow 36D
Very Understanding Wife
1 Boxer ๐Ÿ˜ž
3 Maine Coon cats

Fyr_guy
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Explorer
The warning at the bottom of the link says not to use on tempered glass? Automotive glass is tempered.
"Patriotism is not a short and frenzied outburst of emotion but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime."
-Adlai E. Stevenson, Jr.

2005 Pace Arrow 37C "Bronze" Workhorse 8.1 "Ultrapower" upgrade
2004 Honda CRV

Lobstah
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Explorer
Well...it's definitely NOT "...all over the web." lol, and I'd be amazed if Fleetwood actually made their own windows. I'm sure they were made by a company that supplies many RVs and other types of vehicles. I did fine some references to "Defogging" procedures. Mine isn't exactly a fog, it's just that the inside of the windows between the two panes appears to have some sort of film inside. I thought about taking it out, drilling a small hole, and partially filling with a window cleaner, then draining, but I'm not convinced that would get it out/off.

In fact...just found this procedure on the web:
Cleaning inside dual pane windows

Jim
2005 Pace Arrow 36D
Very Understanding Wife
1 Boxer ๐Ÿ˜ž
3 Maine Coon cats

deeleo
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Explorer
Lobstah wrote:
Gary,
Glad you posted that. I'm having the same issue...started with passenger front, and I saw the rear bedroom "escape hatch" doing the same thing on our last trip out. I posted in the main forum but never received a response from anyone. We CAN'T be the only ones experiencing this? And there has to be a way to get in there with something...can't see replacing the whole window.

Jim



We have had the same problem. I have a friend at work who has a 2005PA who said they are experience it as well. She also mentioned that it is a global issue with the PA and there is some sort of class action lawsuit going on (??. Not sure, as I havent investigated it on the web.... she said if you do a search its all over the web.

Anyway she said she found a fix for it. Her husband bought it online... she said you drill a small hole and put this stuff from the kit. Ill have to find out whats its called and Ill post it.
Christy

Parrotguy
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Explorer
Regarding the loud scrapping noise when closing the large slide out, I had the same problem. The slide moves in evenly and without hesitation, so no problem mechanically. Just a loud noise.

I lifted up the carpet when the slide was open and lubricated every place I was able to get access to.with silicone spray (using the red straw) then went underneath and did the same thing, concentrating on the area where the slide out and coach meet. This eliminated about 95% of the noise - the remaining sound is benign.

Hope this helps.
Gary Palmer

Lobstah
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Explorer
Gary,
Glad you posted that. I'm having the same issue...started with passenger front, and I saw the rear bedroom "escape hatch" doing the same thing on our last trip out. I posted in the main forum but never received a response from anyone. We CAN'T be the only ones experiencing this? And there has to be a way to get in there with something...can't see replacing the whole window.

Jim
2005 Pace Arrow 36D
Very Understanding Wife
1 Boxer ๐Ÿ˜ž
3 Maine Coon cats

Parrotguy
Explorer
Explorer
Re: the long slide out topper support bracket - If you read my previous post its a long story but I ended up ordering the whole assembly from Fleetwood (thank God they are still around). The part was actually shipped from Dometic - $145.

Window problem - My dual pane windows are starting to fog up between the panes. It started with the two front windows on each side ( the ones you look through to see the mirrors) but now several other windows are starting to fog. I have been putting up with this but now its getting worse. Obviously they have leaks.
Does anyone know if there is a fix for this?
Gary Palmer

bricot
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Explorer
FrontRangeRVer wrote:

Banks is the tried and true improvement apparently.


I just don't like the premium price just be cause it has that name on it, so I will always look for equivalent or better options. The Ultrapower has worked for most, but if not for you then Banks may be your best option. Stinks you had to mess with it so long, this is the first I've heard of one not working. If you go with one of the Banks kits post your results.
2004 Pace Arrow 36B, 8.1L, Ultrapower upgrade, Trac Bars, Safe T Trac

Meme_Ray
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Rich & Cheri' wrote:
My center hood latch also came off. The side hinges also broke away from the hood. I bought a fiberglass repair kit from Advance Auto and reattached both hinges and the latch. Real easy. Much stronger than original too.


Thanks for the tip - Meme
2013 Winnebago Tour-GD
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel

Rich___Cheri_
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Explorer
My center hood latch also came off. The side hinges also broke away from the hood. I bought a fiberglass repair kit from Advance Auto and reattached both hinges and the latch. Real easy. Much stronger than original too.

Meme_Ray
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mtollin wrote:
Rich, or anyone... do you have a link or part numbers for the plug/wire/engine cooling system? I remember seeing the Workhorse part numbers somewhere, but have searched the forums ands web and can't seem to find them. I was turned down for the work, and would still like to have it done. Thanks.



we had our plugs changed with part # 88984270 wire kit 2.239

the airflow kit was installed on our unit per workhorse at no change the part # is W8005026. I called workhorse and complained that we had changed our plug wires twice at our own cost and said that something must be wrong for this to keep happening. Workhorse said that Fleetwood did not allow enough room for proper ventilation under the hood and authorized the air flow kit at their expense.

Good luck. You just need to talk to a sympathetic customer service rep and let them know that you just want a fix so that you can stop replacing wires every year.

We have had not burned plugs since installation of the new wires and air flow kit. Since I have said this I feel like I need to cross all my fingers and toes for continued good luck.

We recently had the center latch on our hood break. Has anyone else had this problem? It seems to be a redundant latch and is not really needed but we have not been on the road without it yet. Does anyone have any experience with this?



Meme
2013 Winnebago Tour-GD
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee EcoDiesel

FrontRangeRVer
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mtollin wrote:
On the UltraPower... I tried it and it did nothing for me. Not power, not mpg. In fact my mpg went down, they tried other programs, went back to stock and they gave me a refund.

I'm now looking into Banks.


We just got back from a 2,000 mile trip with the stock ECM , and we are also happy that we received a refund on the ultrapower ECM tune after a year and a half of owning it.

Our mileage increased almost 1 mpg on this trip after replacing the ultrapower ECM with the stock ECM....and that is with the generator running! :S I could tell no difference in power with it or without it, hence the return.

Banks is the tried and true improvement apparently.
2015 Winnebago Forza 34T
SOLD 2006 Winnebago Voyage 35A (was a GREAT unit)