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Missing Honda in 2017 Dinghy Towing Guide?

oldcarfun
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We need a new toad so we found our 2017 Guide to Dinghy Towing from Motorhome Magazine. Has anyone noticed that there are no Hondas in it? We checked the page numbers and there are no missing pages. We wouldn't be looking for a Honda anyway but we have a lot of friends towing CRVs.
Oldcarfun
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2005 Jeep GC Toad
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WILDEBILL308
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Mr.Mark wrote:
Accsys, thank you for the additional source. I'm a member of FMCA but have never checked their guide as I get the towing guide with my subscription with Motorhome Magazine.

I see that the FMCA towing guide has retracted that the 2017 Lincoln Continental is four-down towable. They are showing that the Lincoln MKX AWD is towable which is the one that I bought. The salesman also told me it was towable as he has customers buying one for the very purpose. I was not able to get my hands on a owner's manual but will check it when the car is delivered at the dealer today or tomorrow before I finalize the deal (verbally agreed at the moment).

Safe travels,
MM.

You should be able to find the owners manuel on line.
Bill
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TOWING 2014 HONDA CRV With Blue Ox tow bar
A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way.
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bullydogs1
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So Honda bowed out..so did Subaru with their manual transmissions..knew about the Edge and the MKX...did not know MKC/Escape had issues with towing...I keep my Saturn very well maintained and this is why...My daily driver is also towable just in case someone T bones the Saturn as it is virtually unreplaceable...Plan B would be to take the Sonic and trade it for an Equinox...but the Saturn is in tip top shape and equipped to take the dogs with us when we go on excursions...Congrats on the Lincoln Mark....that Honda is going to make a nice toad for someone...I'd keep it for a bit to ensure that the Lincoln does OK...
Stuart and Stella Denning
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oldcarfun
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Mr. Mark, Please post about the MKX. That's what we are thinking about. Also thank you Accsys for clearing up my confusion. I am a member of FMCA also and will check their dinghy towing guide.
Oldcarfun
2009 Itasca Suncruiser 35L
2005 Jeep GC Toad

Mr_Mark1
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Accsys, thank you for the additional source. I'm a member of FMCA but have never checked their guide as I get the towing guide with my subscription with Motorhome Magazine.

I see that the FMCA towing guide has retracted that the 2017 Lincoln Continental is four-down towable. They are showing that the Lincoln MKX AWD is towable which is the one that I bought. The salesman also told me it was towable as he has customers buying one for the very purpose. I was not able to get my hands on a owner's manual but will check it when the car is delivered at the dealer today or tomorrow before I finalize the deal (verbally agreed at the moment).

Safe travels,
MM.
Mr.Mark
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accsys
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It appears we are talking about two different animals here: "Motorhome Magazine" put out by the Affinity Group which includes Good Sams and Camping World; and "Family Motor Coaching" put out by the Family Motor Coach Association. I trust the latter in just about anything thing they print, not so much the former. JMHO :B
John & Doris
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Mr_Mark1
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accsys wrote:
oldcarfun wrote:
Thank you Mark! I thought I was losing my mind! I double checked that it was 2017 many times and nothing between GMC and Hyundai. By the way, we are thinking about the Lincoln SUV, don't remember which MK it is. We are about 1.5 hours from Redlands and that is a possibility for us. We are taking a long rv trip this fall and plan on looking for the new car after the trip. Thanks for the tip and good luck with the Lincoln.

That's not my experience. When I go to the January 2017 Digital Edition on the FMCA website I get the Honda listing. I also get it when I go to the 2017 Towing Guide listed under the towing section on the FMCA site. You do have to login to the site to get to those pages.


I pulled the Towing Guide under the 'Motorhome Magazine' website. That's where the Honda's are absent.

MM.
Mr.Mark
2021.5 Pleasure Way Plateau FL Class-B on the Sprinter Chassis
2018 Mini Cooper Hardtop Coupe, 2 dr., 6-speed manual
(SOLD) 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach, 45 ft, 500 hp Volvo
(SOLD) 2008 Monaco Dynasty, 42 ft, 425 hp Cummins

oldcarfun
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I am looking at the paper 2017 edition "2017 Guide to Dinghy Towing" by Motorhome. I saw all the editions online but didn't look at 2017. I was glad they're available in case I want a used toad. Funny, maybe there were a few misprints. I wish I could take a pic and post it here.
Oldcarfun
2009 Itasca Suncruiser 35L
2005 Jeep GC Toad

accsys
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oldcarfun wrote:
Thank you Mark! I thought I was losing my mind! I double checked that it was 2017 many times and nothing between GMC and Hyundai. By the way, we are thinking about the Lincoln SUV, don't remember which MK it is. We are about 1.5 hours from Redlands and that is a possibility for us. We are taking a long rv trip this fall and plan on looking for the new car after the trip. Thanks for the tip and good luck with the Lincoln.

That's not my experience. When I go to the January 2017 Digital Edition on the FMCA website I get the Honda listing. I also get it when I go to the 2017 Towing Guide listed under the towing section on the FMCA site. You do have to login to the site to get to those pages.
John & Doris
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2017 Cedar Creek Cottage 40 CCK
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tommy_g
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irishtom29 wrote:
Look up recreational towing in the owner's manual of the car you're interested in (most manuals are online). If the car can be towed flat or not it should say so and give instructions for towing, dollying or whatever. Note that now even some manual transmission cars are not to be towed flat.

Don't put faith in guides, the owner's manuals are the real word.
My Owner's manual says that my Accord cannot be towed 4 down. After 70,000 towing miles, I think I'll go with the Remco guide,.
1998 Bounder 36s F53 460 V8 Banks power & Honda Accord toad

Mr_Mark1
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Oldcarfun, the Lincoln MKC is not towable (Ford Escape sister), the Lincoln MKX is the sister to the Ford Edge. Even the new Continental is towable four down.

The MKX has a five star crash rating. In my TN city, they stopped carrying the Lincoln product (city of 1M people). Lincoln wants our local 'big' dealers to build a new building to separate Ford and Lincoln and they are refusing to invest the $4 million. So, no Lincoln's in my big city. I had to drive 100 miles to a small Ford/Lincoln dealer (town of 11,000 people). I was assured that the local Ford dealer will maintain the car with no problem, just can't buy them there.

MM.
Mr.Mark
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(SOLD) 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach, 45 ft, 500 hp Volvo
(SOLD) 2008 Monaco Dynasty, 42 ft, 425 hp Cummins

oldcarfun
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Thank you Mark! I thought I was losing my mind! I double checked that it was 2017 many times and nothing between GMC and Hyundai. By the way, we are thinking about the Lincoln SUV, don't remember which MK it is. We are about 1.5 hours from Redlands and that is a possibility for us. We are taking a long rv trip this fall and plan on looking for the new car after the trip. Thanks for the tip and good luck with the Lincoln.
Oldcarfun
2009 Itasca Suncruiser 35L
2005 Jeep GC Toad

Mr_Mark1
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oldcarfun wrote:
We need a new toad so we found our 2017 Guide to Dinghy Towing from Motorhome Magazine. Has anyone noticed that there are no Hondas in it? We checked the page numbers and there are no missing pages. We wouldn't be looking for a Honda anyway but we have a lot of friends towing CRVs.


YOU ARE RIGHT! The Honda's are missing in the 2017 digital motorhome towing guide. It goes from GMC to Hyundai. Hmmmm. :h

The CR-V is an excellent tow vehicle (2014 and earlier).

I wanted to upgrade so I bought a new 2017 Lincoln MKX AWD last week and will pick it up Monday or Tuesday as they are getting it from another dealer. It will be a month or so before I can have the base plate and braking system installed. I want Redlands Truck and RV Performance Center in Redlands CA to install it since they did such a professional job on the Honda.

Safe travels,
MM.
Mr.Mark
2021.5 Pleasure Way Plateau FL Class-B on the Sprinter Chassis
2018 Mini Cooper Hardtop Coupe, 2 dr., 6-speed manual
(SOLD) 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach, 45 ft, 500 hp Volvo
(SOLD) 2008 Monaco Dynasty, 42 ft, 425 hp Cummins

accsys
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oldcarfun wrote:
Thank you Bill. I don't see those Hondas either. If you have it handy, can you tell me what page they are on? I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone.

I'm not Bill but it's on page 54 of the January 2017 magazine. All manufacturers are listed alphabetically - Honda is right between GMC and Hyundai. :B
John & Doris
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Branson_N_Tucso
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Do not believe the manual. Bought a Ford Fusion that manual said could be towed 4 down. Guess what the Dealer never knowledge that Ford retracted with an insert but know one new about. Only found out by FMCA doing research on the matter.