Newmar class A

[Licreek]

Is anyone familiar with Newmar class A diesel pusher motor homes? I am finding a number of them on craigslist and they are mostly older. The newest one I found is 2002. Just wondered if anyone knows anything about them.One is a Dutch Star and one is a Mountain Aire??

[Tom_Barb]

Chainwright wrote:

katoomer wrote:
Tom/Barb, unfortunately I disagree on 1 point.
If the cabinets are the best in the business, then everyone else's must be garbage. I know Newmar brags about their cabinets bit I've had many issues. Cabinets twisting, doors cracking. Things stapled with a few screws but no glue. Crown moulding installed upside down!. Terrible as far as I'm concerned. Thankfully, I can repair them myself. 40 yrs. as a cabinetmaker.

Hmmm, so what about the performance of the Vehicle? What about the slides? what about stability?

Did ya notice he is a cabinet maker? He will see stuff that you and I would believe is normal.

[Chainwright]

katoomer wrote:
Tom/Barb, unfortunately I disagree on 1 point.
If the cabinets are the best in the business, then everyone else's must be garbage. I know Newmar brags about their cabinets bit I've had many issues. Cabinets twisting, doors cracking. Things stapled with a few screws but no glue. Crown moulding installed upside down!. Terrible as far as I'm concerned. Thankfully, I can repair them myself. 40 yrs. as a cabinetmaker.

Hmmm, so what about the performance of the Vehicle? What about the slides? what about stability?

[backhoemike]

I have a 1995 London aire! I am very pleased starting to get some issues , alternator, air dryer ,water pump small nickel and dime stuff but very pleased with it and the fun way out weighs the minor inconvenience of having small issues break it is getting old and all original equipment so it is standing the test of time...craigslist scares me buy stuff off of...

[Tom_Barb]

Today I saw a 42 foot 2003 Monoco Dynasty on the for sale lot at the Whidbey Naval Airstation here at Oak Harbor call this number 1-360-770-8414 ask for Bernie.
This one looks like it needs some TLC (wash and wax) They were great coaches, and with 3 slides. has lots of room as a full timer

anyone coming up to see it I'll sponsor on the station to see it. PM me if you are coming.

[ncrowley]

We purchased a 2004 Newmar Northern Star 5 years ago. We have been impressed by the workmanship and the customer support that Newmar has provided us. I would not hesitate to purchase another Newmar.

For any used coach, you need to get complete maintenance records and you need to make sure they knew what maintenance should be done.

Look to see if the coach has the paint checking issue - if you ant more information, do a search on this forum. This issue was not just with Newmar but with other manufacturers on coaches from about 2000 to 2008. I have seen it on many other brands - it is a defect with the sidewalls and many coach manufacturers used the defective sidewalls. The problem gets worse over time even if the coach is stored under cover.

[Mile_High]

I think the OP reported on page 2 the ad was a scam, so scamming is at least 50 percent on topic for this thread.

[Bruce_Brown]

We all understand about the scams, heck I just listed my TT on Craigslist - please get this one back on track.

Thank you. :B

[Tom_Barb]

Mile High wrote:

Tom/Barb wrote:


Multiple listing on Craig's list is a very common tactic to cover a larger area for the sale..

I've seen several coaches and Jeeps that had multiple listings in different states on Craigslist, and they were all scams. Not saying some people don't do it, but as a buyer it should be one of the things to raise suspicion beyond some of the other obvious ones.

Maybe they were, but that's not the point. It is all about what the seller is willing to do.

When they act like a scammer they probably are.
When they want you to send money they certainly are.

Follow the rules I posted, and you'll spot them pretty quick.

[Mile_High]

Tom/Barb wrote:


Multiple listing on Craig's list is a very common tactic to cover a larger area for the sale..

I've seen several coaches and Jeeps that had multiple listings in different states on Craigslist, and they were all scams. Not saying some people don't do it, but as a buyer it should be one of the things to raise suspicion beyond some of the other obvious ones.

[OutdoorPhotogra]

Agree with the Craigslist scam and needs to be a sticky.

I'll add, that an RV being stored on a military base is not even a legitimate reason to not be able to view it. Beside the obvious that it could be moved, the service member can sponsor anyone with proper government ID through the gate.

[Tom_Barb]

Licreek wrote:
Thanks to all. Yes I think the craigslist is a scam. I cant even get an answer and im finding the same units listed in south florida and Georgia. Thanks again for the heads up and ill stick with RV trader.

Multiple listing on Craig's list is a very common tactic to cover a larger area for the sale..

Scams are all about taking advantage of the public's ignorance of how to protect them selves when dealing on line..

Actually read the rules on the page your are searching. It tells ya how to avoid the scammers.

The safety rules.

more safety rules

[Mile_High]

1nolaguy wrote:
This is a warning: not about Newman RVs for which I have great respect and admiration, but for adds on Craig's List for used Newmar RVs. I have been looking for a used RV and found several adds on craig's list for older (1999-2004) Newmar RVs, both Mountain Aires and Dutch Stars. The adds looked appealing. I pursued 2, both turned out to be scams. Had I not caught this in time it could well have cost me plenty. photos and The adds and the scam artists running them are very good, with photos and answers for most questions. The give away is usually the unit can not be seen in person and payment is through e-Bay to assure you of security for you money. This scam is being run so frequently that there is actually a blog dedicated to it. In addition to RVs it can also involve toads or trucks and SUVs.

If you are looking for an RV on Craig's list and you find one of interest, first ask in you can see it in person. If you are told it is being held on a military base where it can not be seen, Be Ware!

X10 I can't believe my brother in law actually bit on one of those (didn't follow through). The one he almost fell for was on RVtrader, so it's not just craigslist. RVtrader pulled it later that week.

They are very tricky, they steal others pics of the coach, even pics of the serial number.

[Tom_Barb]

katoomer wrote:

Tom/Barb wrote:

katoomer wrote:
Tom/Barb, unfortunately I disagree on 1 point.
If the cabinets are the best in the business, then everyone else's must be garbage. I know Newmar brags about their cabinets bit I've had many issues. Cabinets twisting, doors cracking. Things stapled with a few screws but no glue. Crown moulding installed upside down!. Terrible as far as I'm concerned. Thankfully, I can repair them myself. 40 yrs. as a cabinetmaker.

When you buy an entry level you will get what you pay for.

The mountain Aire and dutch star are not entry level.

Specially after 2000.

The Mountain Aire is now luxury level coach, and the dutch is the mid level. they never were entry level.


Newmar

So what you are saying is if I want cabinets that don't fall apart I need to spend an extra 100K?

Seem to be my experience that when you want quality, you'll pay for it.
100 grand ?

[katoomer]

Tom/Barb wrote:

katoomer wrote:
Tom/Barb, unfortunately I disagree on 1 point.
If the cabinets are the best in the business, then everyone else's must be garbage. I know Newmar brags about their cabinets bit I've had many issues. Cabinets twisting, doors cracking. Things stapled with a few screws but no glue. Crown moulding installed upside down!. Terrible as far as I'm concerned. Thankfully, I can repair them myself. 40 yrs. as a cabinetmaker.

When you buy an entry level you will get what you pay for.

The mountain Aire and dutch star are not entry level.

Specially after 2000.

The Mountain Aire is now luxury level coach, and the dutch is the mid level. they never were entry level.


Newmar

So what you are saying is if I want cabinets that don't fall apart I need to spend an extra 100K?