The big boy class A's

[etruitt]

Just returned from approx. 8K mile trip from NC to OR and back. In all the campgrounds we stayed at we didn't see any of the Prevost motorhomes. Where do they stay? Am I missing something?

[rgatijnet1]

redguard wrote:

rgatijnet1 wrote:
From my own experience with the Prevost chassis is that they are built for continuous duty and designed for long life, high mileage, applications. That is why they are used primarily by NASCAR drivers, celebrities, and other notables that criss-cross the country on a daily basis. Their livelihood depends on them getting from point A to point B and they cannot afford the occasional breakdown/delay that the rest of us have to endure in a "standard" RV. Prevost chassis coaches are built to last 1,000,000 miles as a minimum with minimal interruption of service.
I've put several thousand miles on a Liberty Prevost and all I can say is that other DP's are just wannabes. The only comparison between a Prevost chassis and a sub $500,000 DP is that they all have the engine in the rear.
Based on millions of miles of experience, Prevost knows what will last and what will not. I believe that the Prevost still comes with a two piece windshield. Many others have tried the one piece windshield, AND failed miserably. A Prevost will not shake itself apart on the road, like other coaches. They are designed for reliable long distance travel that usually includes things like 1500+ mile fuel range, large fresh water and waste water tanks, generators so quiet that you have to be right next to one to hear it running, copper plumbing, 20,000 trailer hitch as a standard, engine fires suppression system as standard, and so on.
They are not practical for everyone but are unbeatable if you plan to put tens of thousands of miles on your coach each year.

The only BAD BAD part of a prevost converted bus to mh is the poor power.515HP especially pulling 10K is pathetic.My good friend owns one(2009) and when loaded he goes up mountain passes extremely slow
and is slow on stop sign exceleration etc.

Then he did not order it with the proper gearing. Just like 18 wheelers that travel the mountain roads, the gearing is ordered to match the usage. The 500HP Volvo engine is more than capable of moving a fully loaded Prevost coach up any mountain pass.

[ricklord2001]

We're at Oasis in Las Vegas and I have talked to several "Prevost" owners here. Actually had a nice long conversation with a couple who had just bought it and were on their maiden voyage. Beautiful coach! They do need the bigger spaces though.
I travel in a larger MH towing a car and the previous poster who said you can't just hop off the highway and explore is right, seems like every time I get in trouble ending up in a pot I can't turn around in, etc.

[redguard]

rgatijnet1 wrote:
From my own experience with the Prevost chassis is that they are built for continuous duty and designed for long life, high mileage, applications. That is why they are used primarily by NASCAR drivers, celebrities, and other notables that criss-cross the country on a daily basis. Their livelihood depends on them getting from point A to point B and they cannot afford the occasional breakdown/delay that the rest of us have to endure in a "standard" RV. Prevost chassis coaches are built to last 1,000,000 miles as a minimum with minimal interruption of service.
I've put several thousand miles on a Liberty Prevost and all I can say is that other DP's are just wannabes. The only comparison between a Prevost chassis and a sub $500,000 DP is that they all have the engine in the rear.
Based on millions of miles of experience, Prevost knows what will last and what will not. I believe that the Prevost still comes with a two piece windshield. Many others have tried the one piece windshield, AND failed miserably. A Prevost will not shake itself apart on the road, like other coaches. They are designed for reliable long distance travel that usually includes things like 1500+ mile fuel range, large fresh water and waste water tanks, generators so quiet that you have to be right next to one to hear it running, copper plumbing, 20,000 trailer hitch as a standard, engine fires suppression system as standard, and so on.
They are not practical for everyone but are unbeatable if you plan to put tens of thousands of miles on your coach each year.

The only BAD BAD part of a prevost converted bus to mh is the poor power.515HP especially pulling 10K is pathetic.My good friend owns one(2009) and when loaded he goes up mountain passes extremely slow
and is slow on stop sign exceleration etc.

[oldkarphart]

rgatijnet1 wrote:
From my own experience with the Prevost chassis is that they are built for continuous duty and designed for long life, high mileage, applications. That is why they are used primarily by NASCAR drivers, celebrities, and other notables that criss-cross the country on a daily basis. Their livelihood depends on them getting from point A to point B and they cannot afford the occasional breakdown/delay that the rest of us have to endure in a "standard" RV. Prevost chassis coaches are built to last 1,000,000 miles as a minimum with minimal interruption of service.
I've put several thousand miles on a Liberty Prevost and all I can say is that other DP's are just wannabes. The only comparison between a Prevost chassis and a sub $500,000 DP is that they all have the engine in the rear.
Based on millions of miles of experience, Prevost knows what will last and what will not. I believe that the Prevost still comes with a two piece windshield. Many others have tried the one piece windshield, AND failed miserably. A Prevost will not shake itself apart on the road, like other coaches. They are designed for reliable long distance travel that usually includes things like 1500+ mile fuel range, large fresh water and waste water tanks, generators so quiet that you have to be right next to one to hear it running, copper plumbing, 20,000 trailer hitch as a standard, engine fires suppression system as standard, and so on.
They are not practical for everyone but are unbeatable if you plan to put tens of thousands of miles on your coach each year.

What He Said!! + Drive one and you'll see the difference too.🙂

[rgatijnet1]

From my own experience with the Prevost chassis is that they are built for continuous duty and designed for long life, high mileage, applications. That is why they are used primarily by NASCAR drivers, celebrities, and other notables that criss-cross the country on a daily basis. Their livelihood depends on them getting from point A to point B and they cannot afford the occasional breakdown/delay that the rest of us have to endure in a "standard" RV. Prevost chassis coaches are built to last 1,000,000 miles as a minimum with minimal interruption of service.
I've put several thousand miles on a Liberty Prevost and all I can say is that other DP's are just wannabes. The only comparison between a Prevost chassis and a sub $500,000 DP is that they all have the engine in the rear.
Based on millions of miles of experience, Prevost knows what will last and what will not. I believe that the Prevost still comes with a two piece windshield. Many others have tried the one piece windshield, AND failed miserably. A Prevost will not shake itself apart on the road, like other coaches. They are designed for reliable long distance travel that usually includes things like 1500+ mile fuel range, large fresh water and waste water tanks, generators so quiet that you have to be right next to one to hear it running, copper plumbing, 20,000 trailer hitch as a standard, engine fires suppression system as standard, and so on.
They are not practical for everyone but are unbeatable if you plan to put tens of thousands of miles on your coach each year.

[Mr_Mark1]

ChemistJason, the main cost is the chassis as it is a one piece unit. Everything is more robust as they are built mainly for long term (miles) passenger buses.

The other costs related to the conversion is that everything is custom made, it's not on a assembly line.

When the chassis is driven to the converter, it is an empty shell inside with a small temporary driver's seat. The slides are put in at the factory in Canada before it's sent to the converter. All the conversion is done after the shell is built. I would imagine that the front windshield is removed to put the appliances in along with any other large items.

Our converter paints the exterior before the inside is even touched. The whole painted surface is covered with a styrofoam material for protection and then the conversion starts and takes about 7 months.

Another cost are the amenities. The total cost will depend on what the customer wants inside.

Mark

[ChemistJason]

I just stumbled across this and I think it relates well to a question I have about Prevost. Why are they so expensive??? I know the short answer to that question is "because people will pay that price", but what is the primary difference between a Prevost and something like a Newmar or Tiffin that costs $100's of thousands less?

I realize fit a finish can really start piling on costs, but is there something inherently different about the engine/transmission/etc on a Prevost which adds to the cost? Please bear in mind that I'm not much of a gearhead, so any explanations about engine related components will need to be dumbed down to elementary school levels.;)

[Mr_Mark1]

JTHarley wrote:

Bigdog wrote:
Sure they're cool to look at, but I really don't feel out of place in my '01 Tradewinds LTC when I'm parking next to one. The one that I liked was my neighbor at Oasis in Vegas that had sold his 1.8M Prevost to his best friend for 1.5M and was waiting to take delivery on his new 45' Dynamax quad slide.I asked him why and he said that the Prevost actually had some things he didn't like and also, the Dynamax had a 40K tow rate and his cargo trailer weighed in at 25K.
I have also stayed at Pacific in Newport and you can stay there if you meet certain standards and there are spaces available.

That is so funny…..I sold my 45' Dynamax with quad slides for my prevost. The Dynamax Grand Sport Ultra was an amazing machine and I really liked it but my wife was not crazy about the "truck" drive and feel compared to the prevost. Amazing as it may seem, even though the dynamax is a $500K coach there where many resorts that turned me away because it wasn't a class A…..oh well, there was always someone right down the road willing to take my cash…….LOL

I'm pretty sure the Prevosts have a 20,000 lb. tow rating. It really is hard to find anything more unless you go to a truck type motorhome (ie: The Dynamax). Prevosts are made mainly for passenger transportation and to put on lots of road miles. Transforming them into a motorhomes is their 2nd duty and the focus is not to carry a large trailer, that's not what they are made for.

MM.

[JTHarley]

Bigdog wrote:
Sure they're cool to look at, but I really don't feel out of place in my '01 Tradewinds LTC when I'm parking next to one. The one that I liked was my neighbor at Oasis in Vegas that had sold his 1.8M Prevost to his best friend for 1.5M and was waiting to take delivery on his new 45' Dynamax quad slide.I asked him why and he said that the Prevost actually had some things he didn't like and also, the Dynamax had a 40K tow rate and his cargo trailer weighed in at 25K.
I have also stayed at Pacific in Newport and you can stay there if you meet certain standards and there are spaces available.

That is so funny…..I sold my 45' Dynamax with quad slides for my prevost. The Dynamax Grand Sport Ultra was an amazing machine and I really liked it but my wife was not crazy about the "truck" drive and feel compared to the prevost. Amazing as it may seem, even though the dynamax is a $500K coach there where many resorts that turned me away because it wasn't a class A…..oh well, there was always someone right down the road willing to take my cash…….LOL

[Bigdog]

Sure they're cool to look at, but I really don't feel out of place in my '01 Tradewinds LTC when I'm parking next to one. The one that I liked was my neighbor at Oasis in Vegas that had sold his 1.8M Prevost to his best friend for 1.5M and was waiting to take delivery on his new 45' Dynamax quad slide.I asked him why and he said that the Prevost actually had some things he didn't like and also, the Dynamax had a 40K tow rate and his cargo trailer weighed in at 25K.
I have also stayed at Pacific in Newport and you can stay there if you meet certain standards and there are spaces available.

[Jonny_31C]

Effy wrote:
Stayed at a class a resort in lauderdale last year and it was nothing but prevosts. Must have been 50 or more. A majority Canadian. We must have looked like the groundskeepers in our tiny little mh.

Must have Been Aztec Resort..I stayed there in March and I felt like a pauper in my 40' Phaeton. What a beautiful resort though with some REALLY nice coaches

[JTHarley]

My prevost has such large capacities (fresh, grey, black) and a big bank of batteries that unless we find campgrounds that are easy in and out while traveling we are just as comfortable staying at rest areas, wal marts or truck stops traveling to our destinations…..I can easily go 10 days with full tanks before we need to find water and a dump. I'll admit it, I like "resort" campgrounds that cater to big rigs and not just the one's that "say" they do. Many people in our prevost club worked our way up to a Prevost. I've had 7 coaches since we started the lifestyle. Started with a B+….Went to a C….then a super C….then my winnebago journey…..then a winnebago vectra….my last coach was a 45' Dynamax truck conversion and now my prevost.

We own a site at Bryn Mawr in St. Augustine which is a campground that allows everything from Pop ups to prevosts and I love the fact that there is such a diverse crowd of campers……fact is we all LOVE camping and are just doing it at various levels of comfort. If you want to see a bunch of prevost coaches just find out where they rally and you can see dozens and dozens of them from 20-30 year old classics to the newest with the latest and greatest. There in lies the difference between the prevosts, newell, foretravel coaches. They are built like tanks and can easily run for 30 years + with regular maintenance. The house portion on these coaches are built to last as long as the million mile plus chassis.

[tahiti16]

Executive wrote:
They just had a big rally in Alabama.....We are on Hilton Head Island and there are probably 10 in here.....Dennis

Must be your magnetic personality Dennis! :B :B

[wallynm]

And have witnessed folks having a campfire in a Walmart parking lot and they did not think they had any problems.

koda55 wrote:
We stay at Walmarts and run our genny all night long. We have never had any problems. We also stay at truck stops and run it all night there.

[AprilWhine]

Thanks for asking, right now we're in dry camping at the Albuquerque Balloon Fiesta. There are several Prevost and Newell coaches here.