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Will Winegard Traveler work w/ existing cables?

Snomas
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I have a roof mounted KVH in motion sat dish and want to replace it w/ a new Winegard Traveler. MY question is will the existing prewired KVH cables/wires (and inside switch box Newmar installed) work on the traveler without adding any new ones?
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Pirate1
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Bill.Satellite wrote:
wa8yxm wrote:
Rodz wrote:
I have read a few posts about people replacing their in motion sat with a Winegard Traveler. Curious why they're doing it.

Not sure what cables the Winegard needs, Bill can respond if he spots this.

However this question I can answer.. In days of old when folks were bold DirecTV used one satellite, Dish used two, and some (many) domes were set to work with just those 3 birds.....

Some with just one, (They needed a long time to switch birds and often manual input)

Some with 110/119 Dish pair, swiftly swithing between them

Some could do all 3.

But 129 was not on the menu (or is it 127) the new 3rd Dishnetwork bird.

THUS if you want HDTV you have to either

1: Use a ground mount dish type antenna

or

2: Subscribe to DISHNETWORK and upgrade your dome.



I suspect that, just like me, no one has any idea what you are talking about here! :?
As an aside, if you don't know anything about the OP's question (will it work with the existing cables) why are you trying to muddy the waters with this rambling post? I usually do that when I have finished my 2nd drink at cocktail time. Not sure what your motivation is.
Lighten up Bill. All of his posts are just as lengthy. He is just trying to share some knowledge. Personal attack not needed.

Bill_Satellite
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The new DirecTV Trav'ler has SWM built-in so whether you are Dish or DirecTV these days you only need one coax run to any receiver.
What I post is my 2 cents and nothing more. Please don't read anything into my post that's not there. If you disagree, that's OK.
Can't we all just get along?

YC_1
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Snomas wrote:
Rodz wrote:
I have read a few posts about people replacing their in motion sat with a Winegard Traveler. Curious why they're doing it.


The 2002 KVH dish stopped connecting to the satellite in Jan 2013. KVH said I needed to upgrade to a newer unit!!


Did you check the voltage at the dish? The long run from the battery can cause a drop in voltage along with any weak connections. If the dish has low voltage it will just keep hunting. I found when plugged into shoreline, the generator running, or engine running that the extra voltage was enough to make it work. Drove me crazy. Solution was installing a power supply in the overhead cabinet.

As for the Travler using Direct TV mine had several coax connections and I ran all of them. I did not buy the SWM model so needed two connections to each of my receivers.

If you have any overhead speakers or light fixtures in the area of the roof you are installing the dish remove them for help finding a path for the cables. Using one of the coax cables as a pull wire may be possible but is likely going to be a slow and painful process no matter what.
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Rodz
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The reason I asked is because my new MH is in the shop now getting a dome installed. HD isn't that important to me and when I take my grand kids, they like to watch tv to keep them occupied when we're traveling. I had a dome in the one I traded in on this one and it worked just fine for the 5 yrs I had it. When I'm out enjoying the MH watching tv isn't a priority. I can do that at home.

Thanks for the response.
Bob

JetAonly
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When I installed mine last summer, you could have easily used the existing cable as long as you run the control cable. There is a 4 port splitter to be mounted inside. route it as needed.
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JetAonly
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Bill.Satellite wrote:
wa8yxm wrote:
Rodz wrote:
I have read a few posts about people replacing their in motion sat with a Winegard Traveler. Curious why they're doing it.

Not sure what cables the Winegard needs, Bill can respond if he spots this.

However this question I can answer.. In days of old when folks were bold DirecTV used one satellite, Dish used two, and some (many) domes were set to work with just those 3 birds.....

Some with just one, (They needed a long time to switch birds and often manual input)

Some with 110/119 Dish pair, swiftly swithing between them

Some could do all 3.

But 129 was not on the menu (or is it 127) the new 3rd Dishnetwork bird.

THUS if you want HDTV you have to either

1: Use a ground mount dish type antenna

or

2: Subscribe to DISHNETWORK and upgrade your dome.



I suspect that, just like me, no one has any idea what you are talking about here! :?
As an aside, if you don't know anything about the OP's question (will it work with the existing cables) why are you trying to muddy the waters with this rambling post? I usually do that when I have finished my 2nd drink at cocktail time. Not sure what your motivation is.


I understood.
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allbrandauto
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I your like me when I installed mine 2 weeks of thinking 2 hours of installing drilling through roof was very easy hard part was getting it on roof

Snomas
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Rodz wrote:
I have read a few posts about people replacing their in motion sat with a Winegard Traveler. Curious why they're doing it.


The 2002 KVH dish stopped connecting to the satellite in Jan 2013. KVH said I needed to upgrade to a newer unit!!
2006 WINNEBAGO ASPECT 29H Ford E450 Super Duty
2018 F150 Lariat Crew Cab, Coyote 5.0 L RWD

Snomas
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Thanks for all the info guys. Now I have to figure out how to get the control box cable run down thru the roof to the power outlet in my overhead cabinet where all the existing wiring for my receiver hook is located.
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Snomas
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TechWriter wrote:
Snomas wrote:
I have a roof mounted KVH in motion sat dish and want to replace it w/ a new Winegard Traveler. MY question is will the existing prewired KVH cables/wires (and inside switch box Newmar installed) work on the traveler without adding any new ones?

Do you have DISH or DirecTV?


I have DirectTV and presently use my home SD receiver. I will be using my H24-700 HDTV receiver when I install the traveler!
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rvten
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My KD in Motion just died. Cheaper to add the Traveler than fix the KD.
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TechWriter
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Bill.Satellite wrote:
I think we have argued this in the past . . .

OP, Bill is right. You should be able to use your existing roof wiring for a Travler.

However, I think you should take the opportunity to run two more cables (for a DISH Travler) for possible future use.

Here's an install graphic from the Winegard's Travler manual:




This is a closeup of the Travler base where the connections are made:



Finally, this is the cable plate included with a Winegard Travler:



This cable plate is the real reason why I think you should install all the cables (not just one RG6 and the interface box cables). Because after running the Traveler wires under this plate and into the RV and then screwing the plate down on the RV roof, you'll put Dicor over plate and screws.

All this stuff is hard to remove if you want to add those cables at a later time. I know. I've done it and it's a PITA.

Running these extra cables essentially gives your RV all the capabilities of a house DISH installation. Lots of possibilities.
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Bill_Satellite
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Explorer II
wa8yxm wrote:
Rodz wrote:
I have read a few posts about people replacing their in motion sat with a Winegard Traveler. Curious why they're doing it.

Not sure what cables the Winegard needs, Bill can respond if he spots this.

However this question I can answer.. In days of old when folks were bold DirecTV used one satellite, Dish used two, and some (many) domes were set to work with just those 3 birds.....

Some with just one, (They needed a long time to switch birds and often manual input)

Some with 110/119 Dish pair, swiftly swithing between them

Some could do all 3.

But 129 was not on the menu (or is it 127) the new 3rd Dishnetwork bird.

THUS if you want HDTV you have to either

1: Use a ground mount dish type antenna

or

2: Subscribe to DISHNETWORK and upgrade your dome.



I suspect that, just like me, no one has any idea what you are talking about here! :?
As an aside, if you don't know anything about the OP's question (will it work with the existing cables) why are you trying to muddy the waters with this rambling post? I usually do that when I have finished my 2nd drink at cocktail time. Not sure what your motivation is.
What I post is my 2 cents and nothing more. Please don't read anything into my post that's not there. If you disagree, that's OK.
Can't we all just get along?

wa8yxm
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Explorer III
Rodz wrote:
I have read a few posts about people replacing their in motion sat with a Winegard Traveler. Curious why they're doing it.

Not sure what cables the Winegard needs, Bill can respond if he spots this.

However this question I can answer.. In days of old when folks were bold DirecTV used one satellite, Dish used two, and some (many) domes were set to work with just those 3 birds.....

Some with just one, (They needed a long time to switch birds and often manual input)

Some with 110/119 Dish pair, swiftly swithing between them

Some could do all 3.

But 129 was not on the menu (or is it 127) the new 3rd Dishnetwork bird.

THUS if you want HDTV you have to either

1: Use a ground mount dish type antenna

or

2: Subscribe to DISHNETWORK and upgrade your dome.
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