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Anybody see anything wrong here for my water hookups?

superrayzor
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Wanted it to be easier, so now I can connect a single hose under the vehicle (I have a short hose that I bungeed up to the bottom, going to insulate it later). When I need city, I just flip the lever. When I need fresh water, I flip it's nozzle. When I want to rinse the black, I flip its nozzle.

I read and the black is supposed to have a backflow preventer on it already. Would like to confirm on that.

For the black rinse though, I turn it on while the water is running, and then I turn it off while the water is running, so it should effectively cut off the flow from the rest of the system.

Any concerns or any ways to improve? Is there a device for this already that I am missing that will make it easier (an app from my smartphone?? :)).http://imgur.com/AEwBNtY
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Jetstreamer
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Be very careful filling fresh water tank. Even though it is vented,the small vent hole may not keep up with a large inflow of water and you stand the risk of over pressurizing the water tank. And depending how it is mounted, all sorts of exciting, expensive things can happen.
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wa8yxm
Explorer III
Explorer III
There is an expert who's web URL I ahve around here somewhere (RV101 is part of the URL) he too supports a second hose for the black tank rinser and as I posted above a quick disconnect,, Disconnected save when in use

In fact I use a single "Y" with two hoses (well one hose one filter) the water comes off the Y into the Filter and then the city water/quick fill inlet

Or off the "Y" into a hose.. The other end of that hose has a vacuum breaker, a spring check valve (Belt and suspenders back flow protection) a valve and a quick disconnect.. It currently feeds the sprayer head watering my tomatoes.. But it also fits the mating QD fitting on the "Tornado" and after I made up the ose I found the vacuum breaker inside the RV, and of course the Tornado has a spring check valve (Belt, Belt, Suspenders and Suspenders back flow protection).

Ok so it's over kill but even if I lay that hose in a puddle, NOTHING gets back into it save from the inlet end.
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DSDP_Don
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No offense, but it looks like you were bored and wanted to create a project. I would have just bought three brass quick connects and quick connect the hose onto the inlet you need.

If all those were automatic, it would be a different story, but you still need to be there to turn each valve. You walk away from that contraption for a few minutes with anything but the city fill running, you'll have a disaster. So as long as you need to be standing there, just use the quick connects.
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myredracer
Explorer II
Explorer II
IMO the supply for the black tank rinser should be totally separate and with it's own dedicated hose to prevent/minimize the possibility of ever contaminating an RV's potable water system or the CG system. (There must be a reason why RVs aren't built with the black tank supply interconnected with the potable water system.) Vacuum breakers in RVs sometimes do fail. If you don't want to change the setup, at least install a good check valve between tank inlet fitting and valve.

Some jurisdictions require a backflow preventer/anti-siphon device at a site's faucet to prevent contamination of the CG's water system like in Minnesota for ex. In the OP's setup if the vacuum breaker failed or leaked and the CG did not have backflow protection at faucets, contaminated water could potentially flow back (under some circumstances) into the CG's system and when you turn a faucet back on inside the RV, contaminated water could get into your potable water system.

Don't know what the specs are for that blue inline filter, but they can be restrictive and the built-in tank rinser may not getting enough flow & pressure to work effectively. The fittings all look like garden hose type - valves and fittings in general can cause pressure drop and further reduce effectiveness of the flusher. I would have used standard 1/2" ball valves and 1/2" PEX or brass fittings and hose adapters. If using a basic exterior inline regulator, I would upgrade to something like the Watts 263A to get better control on the pressure. CG water pressure can sometimes be quite low and you need every single psi you can get and it's good to optimize what you've done for flow & psi otherwise the rinser may not do much. FWIW, you shouldn't need teflon tape on hose fittings, that's what the washers are for.

wa8yxm
Explorer III
Explorer III
I would never connect to the black tank rinser save when rinsing. and then make sure there is a vacuum breaker and possible other back flow rpeventers in line.

So, how to modify to make it good........

Put a QUICK DISCONNECT on the Rinse line.. Hook up to rinse, then flip the lever When done flip the lever and unhook, let the vacuum breaker drain back and put an AIR GAP between the two lines. This is, in fact, part of how I do it.. The other part of how I do it is not needed.
Home was where I park it. but alas the.
2005 Damon Intruder 377 Alas declared a total loss
after a semi "nicked" it. Still have the radios
Kenwood TS-2000, ICOM ID-5100, ID-51A+2, ID-880 REF030C most times

wa8yxm
Explorer III
Explorer III
I would never connect to the black tank rinser save when rinsing. and then make sure there is a vacuum breaker and possible other back flow rpeventers in line.

So, how to modify to make it good........

Put a QUICK DISCONNECT on the Rinse line.. Hook up to rinse, then flip the lever When done flip the lever and unhook, let the vacuum breaker drain back and put an AIR GAP between the two lines. This is, in fact, part of how I do it.. The other part of how I do it is not needed.
Home was where I park it. but alas the.
2005 Damon Intruder 377 Alas declared a total loss
after a semi "nicked" it. Still have the radios
Kenwood TS-2000, ICOM ID-5100, ID-51A+2, ID-880 REF030C most times

B_O__Plenty
Explorer II
Explorer II
opnspaces wrote:
I recently had to replace my tank sprayer because the built in check valve failed. It can happen, I wouldn't get the flush hose anywhere near my fresh hose.
Maybe so but if the water backs up into your flush hose it's still connected to same faucet as your fresh hose. I use one hose but I do have an additional backflow preventer hooked to my flusher input.

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jdb7566
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rav wrote:
I wouldn't hook it up to the black tank flush- that's me, I use a 15' garden hose. I would be concerned about backflow.

X2

wnjj
Explorer II
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Old-Biscuit wrote:
YES someone COULD open valve on manifold to flush system causing tank to fill/poop blow out roof vent.

Someone could hookup a hose to my flush connection and do the same

Someone could set fire to my rig

'What if' is always a possibility----I just don't get caught up.


It's not just a matter of could or would but how likely. With all of those valves the same spot, it's just too easy to accidentally turn the wrong one or have a friend helping you turn on the water. Hooking up the black flush should require more conscious effort because the consequence of overflowing the black tank is too high. Besides, how often do you need to use it?

opnspaces
Navigator II
Navigator II
I recently had to replace my tank sprayer because the built in check valve failed. It can happen, I wouldn't get the flush hose anywhere near my fresh hose.
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DutchmenSport
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I don't see any problems. Actually, it's pretty creative in my opinion. And I see nothing wrong with hook-up for the black tank flusher. The anti-syphen check valve will prevent anything from coming back feeding.

And ... you still have one "port" open to attach a garden hose to with a sprayer to spray down the muddy kids or the muddy dog! (or to rinse off all those fish you might catch and bring back to clean!

Old-Biscuit
Explorer III
Explorer III
I don't see a problem.........

City water connection has an internal check valve so that water goes IN

Flush System has an anti-siphon vacuum breaker device so water goes IN

YES someone COULD open valve on manifold to flush system causing tank to fill/poop blow out roof vent.

Someone could hookup a hose to my flush connection and do the same

Someone could set fire to my rig

'What if' is always a possibility----I just don't get caught up.

My connections are on side of 5vr so I use a 'WYE' at hose bibb for multi-hose connections.
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You can try to build a better mouse trap, but many times the old trap works just fine.
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time2roll
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I would use a 'real' backflow device if I was connecting as described.

https://www.zoro.com/wilkins-reduced-pressure-zone-backflow-preventer

Yes and they should be tested annually for about $40 service fee.