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Anyone Towing a 5er with a Half Ton TV?

boocoodinkydow
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Please share your experience be it good or bad. I'd be interested in knowing what you're towing, pin weight, dry and/or loaded weight, what your tow vehicle is & any additional info you'd like to share. Thanx.

NOTE TO WEIGHT POLICE: This isn't an open invitation to discuss pros & cons, shoulda, woulda, coulda. We've all heard it presented a thousand different ways. Thank you for understanding.
Ram 1500 ecodiesel
Longhorn cc lb 4x4
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Dave_H_M
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Explorer II
We just got off the road - SC and FL. The newer (especially F150) half tons are getting to be a common siting in camp grounds.

ib516
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Explorer II
A good buddy of mine has a 2014 Ram 1500, Hemi, crew cab, 4x4, 8 speed, & 3.92 axle.

He pulls a 27', 9000# wet/loaded 5er with it.

He has added:
- LT tires
- Tuf Truck 25% stiffer rear coil springs
- a set of Air Lift 1000 air bags that fit inside those rear coils.

He has been very happy with how it performs.
Prev: 2010 Cougar 322QBS (junk)
02 Dodge 2500 4x4 5.9L CTD 3.55
07 Dodge 3500 4x4 SRW Mega 5.9L CTD 3.73
14 Ram 2500 4x4 Crew 6.4L Hemi 4.10
06 Chevy 1500 4x4 E-Cab 3.73 5.3L
07 Dodge 1500 5.7L Hemi 3.55 / 2010 Jayco 17z
All above are sold, no longer own an RV

Frostbitte
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Explorer
boocoodinkydow wrote:
Please share your experience be it good or bad. I'd be interested in knowing what you're towing, pin weight, dry and/or loaded weight, what your tow vehicle is & any additional info you'd like to share. Thanx.

NOTE TO WEIGHT POLICE: This isn't an open invitation to discuss pros & cons, shoulda, woulda, coulda. We've all heard it presented a thousand different ways. Thank you for understanding.


We used to tow a fairly light 5'er with a 2006 RAM 1500 4x2 5.7L.
It was OK. Installed airbags on the rear axle to level the load even though it didn't really squat too bad. Just found the half-ton springs too car-like. I even kept them inflated empty. The engine had lots of power and torque, just needed to rev. The old 5-speed transmission left a lot to be desired performance wise but it was reliable and never gave me any hassle. The only time I worried a bit was in very high cross winds. The truck's relatively short wheel-base, tires and suspension were a lot more sensitive to wind gusts than my current 3500. Overall, I think it towed the 5'er much better than a similar weighted travel trailer.
2011 RAM 3500 Laramie 4x4 6.7 Cummins 6-speed Auto 4.10
2004 Prowler 275 CKS (Sold)
2014 Sabre 36QBOK-7 5th wheel
2016 Forest River 8 x 20 Cargo Trailer

Kevin_O_
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Explorer
boocoodinkydow wrote:
Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences. I have a 2014 ram with airsuspension & am considering a new jayco ht. With the technological advances boosting the capabilities of these newer vehicles & the rv manufacturers focusing on lighter, more aerodynamic units, I was encouraged that I could find a right fit for my needs. Just needed some real world experiences from you good folks to bolster my confidence. Thanx to everyone & I hope to see even more positive reports.

And a very special thanx to you, BarneyS!
I'm looking at a Jayco 29.5bhds HT model myself. Been going between that and a Keystone 28rbd Cougar. I'm noticing the Cougars seem to weigh a little bit less.. Best of luck!

Kevin
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2016 Jayco 29.5BHDS-NEW

JIMNLIN
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Explorer
Well...my 1/2 ton pulling a 5th wheel trailer experience isn't current but was many years ago.
truck was a '84 1500 chevy 305 v8 3.73 ratio 7004R towing a 24' 5800-6200 lb (depending on length of trip) 5th wheel trailer. The 305 engine was without a doubt the weakest V8 GM ever put in a modern pickup. I think it was around 150-160 hp. Boy was it a dog.....'course national speed limit was 55 mph so it fit right in.
The '04 model 700R4 tranny had several upgrades from GM so it gave me no problems in the 265k miles I had it. Did I say the 305 was a dog !!

We had the combo all over the southern Rockies/plains in high wind areas with no issues.

Like the vast majority of 1/2 ton truck owners you won't have any issues as long as your load on the truck is under RAWR and stay with the trucks tow capacity.
"good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" ............ Will Rogers

'03 2500 QC Dodge/Cummins HO 3.73 6 speed manual Jacobs Westach
'97 Park Avanue 28' 5er 11200 two slides

NMace
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I have had no problems. Found by running with a full fresh water tank it eliminated chucking, so I added weight. But you really need to study your specs.
2002 Silverado 6L 1500 HD 4x4 Crew Cab
2011 Puma 295 KBHSS

Shadow_Grey
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Explorer
Been running this setup for over 3 years. Runs good with over 11,000 miles towing and 64,000 on the truck.

'11 F150 XLT Red Candy Met. Ecoboost 4X4 Screw 5.5', Max Tow,Reese R16k 5th wheel hitch,Ride-Rite Air Springs, E Rated Tires, Extang Cover
'13 Keystone Cougar X-Lite 29RES,triple slides,Mor/Ryde suspension, Reese 5th Airborne Sidewinder, 16" E rated tires

Need-A-Vacation
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Explorer
Discovery, I believe the rear axle is either a 3.73 or 4.10. I think that was what was available in '01 with the 4x4's.

Thomas, As far as I know, the GM 5.3/6spd combo had at most a 3.42 rear, not a 3.73 (unless you changed it!). Only the Max Tow trucks had the 3.73. May have been a better experience with the 3.73! But still a great post!

Boocoodinkydow, Good luck in your quest!
Bubba J- '13 Chevy Silverado 2500HD LT CCSB 4x4 6.0

'16 Jay Flight 32 BHDS ELITE 32 BHDS Mods Reese DC HP

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kellertx5er
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We had a 24' Sportsmen 235RKS, 6005 lb dry, 7200 GVWR, 950# pin weight. Towed with a 2000 F150, 5.4L, 3.73. No ill effects, but never tried to cross the Rockies either.
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'19 Chevy 2500HD 6.0L
'09 Outback Sydney 321FRL 5er
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boocoodinkydow
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Explorer
Thanx, Thomas for a good objective report. Appreciate you taking the time to give an in depth account of your experience.

Note: Moderator edit to remove long quote of previous poster.
Ram 1500 ecodiesel
Longhorn cc lb 4x4

thomas201
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My experience with a ยฝ ton fifth wheel, on a drive to Yellowstone, from New Jersey. The 2011 Silverado was set up with the 5.3 and 3.73 gears, along with the towing package. It is a standard bed and rated for a 9600 pound trailer. Trailer was a new 2011 Wildcat.

Over the Cat scales at Flying J exit 2 in Jersey with a full freshwater tank, and loaded for a long camping trip:

Truck only:
Front 3320
Rear 2360
Gross 5680

Truck & Trailer:
Front 3180
Rear 3740
Trailer 8000
Gross 14920

Calculated:
Truck 6920
Pin 1240
Trailer 9240

So, with the truck rated at 7000, and the combined at 15000 and the trailer at 9600, I ainโ€™t no bricks shy of a full load. This was a little high to me, so for our first journey we decided to not go to Alaska. So we dropped a second spare tire for the truck and the fresh water. Thus we dropped 400 to 450 pounds of gross weight all out of the trailer. The cost to weigh was $10.50, cheap to know as opposed to guessing.

So over the mountains we went. It pulls fine on the flat lands along the Atlantic coast. At 65 mph the transmission saw 180-190. Even with the fairly low pin weight it handled well, no swaying, just a well behaved load. Crossing the eastern continental divide from the town of Seneca Rocks, WV I had my first worry moment. Outside temp was about 80 at the bottom of the mountain. The truck pulled this steep mountain at about 30 to 40 mph, mostly in 2nd gear, with an occasional drop to 1st in the tight turns. The coolant peaked at about 240 or so, and then the temperature dropped to 220. I guess the electric fan has two speeds. Transmission fluid also hit 250 for just a moment, before dropping into the 230 to 240 range. The truck did not give a warning light. Anyone know the temperature to throw a warning and drop into the limp mode?

The tow/haul mode works sweetly going down the mountains, only an occasional use of brakes was necessary. The rest of the mountains pulled with no real drama. Topped most of them in 3rd at 40 to 50 mph. Got about 8.4 mpg on this leg from Jersey to Elkins WV.

Continuing on across the plains all was fine until the long constant pull against a strong headwind in South Dakota. With an outside temp of 105 the truck began to heat up on any extended grade. Four times the temp of the coolant climbed to 240 or so, and the transmission fluid also climbed to 221. Each time this happened, I shut down the A/C for 15 minutes and cooled everything down. The truck spent most of its time in 3rd gear under these conditions, at about 55 to 60 mph. The big headwind (maybe 40 mph) killed my mileage down to 8 even. A bigger truck would be needed to keep up with traffic. The strong headwind limited me to 4th and about 65mph on the downgrades. It would not stay in 5th, unless dropping into a river valley.

Easier pulling from Rapid City, SD to Gardiner, MT with no real headwinds. With temps in the mid 90โ€™s the tranny held 190 to 205. Got about 9.2 mpg. Truck made it West, but I will be shopping for ยพ ton in either gas or diesel for more performance in the mountains.

On the trip East, I normally had a tailwind and cooler temperatures. Across North Dakota and through the Michigan UP, and on down to WV, mileage was in the middle nines with one whole day at 10.1. Plenty of truck for this driving.


After this trip I upgraded to a 2012 F250 with the 6.7 diesel. In 15,000 miles of towing in 13 and 14 no drama at all. The bigger brakes only were needed after the loss of trailer braking between Durango and Silverton Colorado. Ford replaced the trailer brake controller under warranty in Steamboat Springs. I like the F250 with a 10k door sticker since it gives me the towing limits I need (I like to de-rate the manufactures about 10%) and it allows me to use the left lanes and some parkways in the Northeast without the camper.

wecamp04
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TucsonJim wrote:
I toasted the transmission on my 2002 Chevy 1500 at 30,000 miles because I didn't do my research and believed the dealer when he told me that my truck could pull a 2002 28 footer. That FW had a pin weight of about 1,900 and weighed around 9K. Since then, I've gra
duated to a 2500, then an F350 as my FWs got bigger.

same here dealer was right I guess it did pull it for a year and a half fixed it and got a super duty big difference

rexlion
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If you prefer something small, you could very easily tow a Scamp 19' (gooseneck hitch) or Escape 5.0, they are lightweight and aerodynamic. I know of some folks towing these with Tacomas, Rangers, Frontiers... so your Ram wouldn't break a sweat.
Mike G.
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boocoodinkydow
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Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences. I have a 2014 ram with airsuspension & am considering a new jayco ht. With the technological advances boosting the capabilities of these newer vehicles & the rv manufacturers focusing on lighter, more aerodynamic units, I was encouraged that I could find a right fit for my needs. Just needed some real world experiences from you good folks to bolster my confidence. Thanx to everyone & I hope to see even more positive reports.

And a very special thanx to you, BarneyS!
Ram 1500 ecodiesel
Longhorn cc lb 4x4