Information Discussion for Gate Guards

[mdbass]

Thought I'd start a new topic for Gate Guards to use for comments. Like the moderator suggested-keep technical stuff, recipes, mechanical, etc. where they belong. Lets hear from everyone sucking down that caliche dust.

[mdbass]

It is amazing the big range of daily wages paid by the various companies.

You have to weigh the benefits and how important they are to you. If you're comfortable with limited support for extended periods and working for smaller outfits there are better paying opportunities out there. I'm in it for the money myself. 😄

[Blondie_Girl]

It seems since our contracts are not really binding contracts, we also could be released at any time for any reason.

I guess there are pros and cons to all the gate guard companies out there. It is amazing the big range of daily wages paid by the various companies.

[The_Texan]

Well, their "dozens of applicants waiting" just shrunk by one....no thanks, we won't work under those conditions.

[mdbass]

Hmmmm=wonder who Lomas main customer is? Kinda curious what the "deadly sins" were?? I guess there is no 2nd chance there?

[arft]

Have seen their light plant gen sets when summer comes look out dont think will run two ac/s Iam not sure but think they are 6 kw.

[xroads]

The Texan wrote:


gktsuda1956 wrote:


abusman40 wrote:

Also in that they are relatively new to the business they are sort of paranoid about how one goes about doing the job. A number of folks have been released over minor issues rather than having a chance to discuss the issue.



Just curious. What "minor issues" could result in your firing/release??
That comment is bothering me, too. It appears like they artrying to run it as if you are an employee and that is verboten, under the rules of an independent contractor. We interviewed with them, but now will reconsider, after that comment. If the Texas Employment Commission gets wind of their actions, they will end up as employers with employees, not the way they want to be.

Also work for Loma. They only have 2 clients, Chesapeake and Petrohawk. I have been told that when there is a complaint they release the guards to send a message to the client that they are taking affirmative action. They have released guards for slow response time getting to the gate and do not care if the alarm did not go off. They now have a "guard manager" that resides down here. He monitors the sites day and night checking up on your response time, vests on, etc. and he reports his findings to management. They went from 20 gates on 1/1/12 to 40 gates now. A large amount of capital has been spent on all the extra equipment in a short amount of time so they are worried about losing a client.

The maintenance man and refueling man came on board 2/1/12 and came from Timekeepers. The one truck and trailer to do the refueling is a concern for that # of gates with no backup. I have yet to see the maintenance man about to do the routine maintenance of the generator.

I have been told by management that they have a pool of dozens of applicants just waiting for the change at a gate so if they have to release a gate they're covered.

[abusman40]

The Texan wrote:

gktsuda1956 wrote:

abusman40 wrote:
Also in that they are relatively new to the business they are sort of paranoid about how one goes about doing the job. A number of folks have been released over minor issues rather than having a chance to discuss the issue.

Just curious. What "minor issues" could result in your firing/release??

That comment is bothering me, too. It appears like they are trying to run it as if you are an employee and that is verboten, under the rules of an independent contractor. We interviewed with them, but now will reconsider, after that comment. If the Texas Employment Commission gets wind of their actions, they will end up as employers with employees, not the way they want to be.

As stated Loma is the new guy on the street. Any compliant will result in the guard being released and often with no input from the guard. Some one shows up and says your released.

We're told that 80% of their guard business is with one energy company. Too many eggs in one basket?

[mountainborn]

Sorry, I was brief because my comment was off topic. Bravo Zulu is a Navy expression for "well done" . Glen is a retired Navy Diver and the photo was take by the "miles to" sign on the island of Diego Garcia, near the equator,in the Indian Ocean. The "all expense paid recreational dive trip" comment was intended as a back handed compliment because that duty station is a serious work site for a saturation diver. Even the training is pretty extreme and no where near recreational.

[#10]

mountainborn wrote:
BRAVO ZULU Glen ! Looks like you were one of the fortunate ones that got an all expense paid recreational dive trip to the BIOT !

You must be talking about the "rock"?? Diego Garcia?? Middle of the Indian Ocean??

[GGup]

BRAVO ZULU Glen ! Looks like you were one of the fortunate ones that got an all expense paid recreational dive trip to the BIOT !

:h:?:(:E ????

[mountainborn]

gktsuda1956 wrote:

abusman40 wrote:
Also in that they are relatively new to the business they are sort of paranoid about how one goes about doing the job. A number of folks have been released over minor issues rather than having a chance to discuss the issue.

Just curious. What "minor issues" could result in your firing/release??

>
BRAVO ZULU Glen ! Looks like you were one of the fortunate ones that got an all expense paid recreational dive trip to the BIOT !

[The_Texan]

gktsuda1956 wrote:

abusman40 wrote:
Also in that they are relatively new to the business they are sort of paranoid about how one goes about doing the job. A number of folks have been released over minor issues rather than having a chance to discuss the issue.

Just curious. What "minor issues" could result in your firing/release??

That comment is bothering me, too. It appears like they are trying to run it as if you are an employee and that is verboten, under the rules of an independent contractor. We interviewed with them, but now will reconsider, after that comment. If the Texas Employment Commission gets wind of their actions, they will end up as employers with employees, not the way they want to be.

[#14]

abusman40 wrote:
Also in that they are relatively new to the business they are sort of paranoid about how one goes about doing the job. A number of folks have been released over minor issues rather than having a chance to discuss the issue.

Just curious. What "minor issues" could result in your firing/release??

[abusman40]

mre youimi55 wrote:
Is anyone working for Loma? If so, what is your opinion of the organization.

We work for Loma. Loma is new to the gate guard business a little less than a year. They hire you as an independent contractor via 1099 tax form. They supply you with generator, lights and water. If your lucky you might get a vest smaller than 2xx/3xx extra large.

As for field support, water and fuel delivery has been good. However they only have one trailer set up for such delivery. As they expand locations this could become a problem. Our last delivery was about 11:00 pm.

They have a person that is supposed to do your gen. set when going onto a site. We find this person to be less than through.

Also in that they are relatively new to the business they are sort of paranoid about how one goes about doing the job. A number of folks have been released over minor issues rather than having a chance to discuss the issue.

The plus side is that they pay more than some of the major companies.

Should you have more specific questions send a pm and we'll try to answer them.

[craftiemissy]

O.K. ladies the next luncheon will be held at high noon at Joe Gulley Park in Kenedy on Saturday the 7th of April. The park is at the intersection of 181 and 72. Outdoors and different this time! It will be a potluck and I will provide bar b que ribs and brisket. P.M. me if you can bring a dish and I will reply if someone already volunteered to bring that dish. We can use a salad, beans, desserts, etc. I will also provide a cooler and a FEW drinks. Please bring a favorite drink, if you have one and table settings (plates and silverware). Your favorite camp chair would probably be a good addition, too.