More ash borer news

[pitch]

still spreading, excerpt from th "Auburn Citizen"

"What's new this year as opposed to when we first started, we had a quarantine area that was basically along Route 90," Ververs said. "Now, we have more detail. Here in Cayuga County, the first confirmed site was Montezuma at Hejamada Campground. It was brought in by untreated firewood, and it was actually stacked at the base of a tree that said, 'Do not burn untreated firewood,' on a sign on the tree."

[joe_b_]

We lost several gumbo limbo trees to the EAB, brought in, I read, by the last hurricane that hit this part of Florida. The gumbo limbo is a native Florida tree and thought to be immune to most local insects but not to the EAB. Bayer makes a systematic that can be spread on the ground around the trees if you catch it in time, which I did for about half my trees.

Something else blew in with that storm that killed the oaks I had in the yard but didn't bother my hickory trees. Who knows.

[TechWriter]

dodge guy wrote:
This is nature at work, nothing much we can do about it!

Amen, dodge guy. Millions (billions?) of years hence, the sun will run out of hydrogen, expand, and burn the earth to a cinder.

Given all that, why bother, right?

[dodge_guy]

westend wrote:

NYCgrrl wrote:

dodge guy wrote:
Our village and surrounding towns/cities lost all of our ash trees. No campgrounds in a 50 mile radius, yet the campgrounds still have their ash trees intact and healthy. So if transporting firewood was the problem, you would think the campgrounds would've lost thier trees also?

As was stated he EAB will travel on its own no matter what we think we can do! But it is easier and feels better to point the finger than accept what nature has given us to deal with!

Err but does anyone burn wood in your town or the nearby ones?
Something to think on.

I appreciate govts being proactive with a known problem.

Still have a mental picture of the beautiful elm trees that used to be in NYC.

You're preaching to the Devil. Dodge guy is a wood carrier and likes to rationalize his habits.

Who says I carry wood beyond a 50 mile radius? Never said I do.

I'm talking as a clear thinking human being. Not someone who has been programmed to think I'm the one causing the problems. This is nature at work, nothing much we can do about it! Sure we can point fingers and blame the other guy, fact is the EAB is going to travel even if every person stayed home and didn't travel!

[westend]

NYCgrrl wrote:

dodge guy wrote:
Our village and surrounding towns/cities lost all of our ash trees. No campgrounds in a 50 mile radius, yet the campgrounds still have their ash trees intact and healthy. So if transporting firewood was the problem, you would think the campgrounds would've lost thier trees also?

As was stated he EAB will travel on its own no matter what we think we can do! But it is easier and feels better to point the finger than accept what nature has given us to deal with!

Err but does anyone burn wood in your town or the nearby ones?
Something to think on.

I appreciate govts being proactive with a known problem.

Still have a mental picture of the beautiful elm trees that used to be in NYC.

You're preaching to the Devil. Dodge guy is a wood carrier and likes to rationalize his habits.

[camperforlife]

Dave H M wrote:
So does wood other than ash carry the EAB?

Yes, the EAB gas jumped to the White Fringhetree. White Fringetree is native to the United States and grows wild from New Jersey south to Florida and west to Oklahoma and Texas. It is also a popular ornamental tree that has been planted in other parts of the country.

[camperforlife]

dodge guy wrote:
Our village and surrounding towns/cities lost all of our ash trees. No campgrounds in a 50 mile radius, yet the campgrounds still have their ash trees intact and healthy. So if transporting firewood was the problem, you would think the campgrounds would've lost thier trees also?

As was stated he EAB will travel on its own no matter what we think we can do! But it is easier and feels better to point the finger than accept what nature has given us to deal with!

The Mountain Ash is not affected by the EAB. It is very possible that the the campground you are referring to has the Mountain Ash.

[72cougarxr7]

Very sad, here in Northern NY, Ash and Maple make up much of the forests. The farm land that I hunt has some beautiful Ash trees. The beetle is close to my area, if not already here.

[NYCgrrl]

dodge guy wrote:
Our village and surrounding towns/cities lost all of our ash trees. No campgrounds in a 50 mile radius, yet the campgrounds still have their ash trees intact and healthy. So if transporting firewood was the problem, you would think the campgrounds would've lost thier trees also?

As was stated he EAB will travel on its own no matter what we think we can do! But it is easier and feels better to point the finger than accept what nature has given us to deal with!

Err but does anyone burn wood in your town or the nearby ones?
Something to think on.

I appreciate govts being proactive with a known problem.

Still have a mental picture of the beautiful elm trees that used to be in NYC.

[dodge_guy]

Our village and surrounding towns/cities lost all of our ash trees. No campgrounds in a 50 mile radius, yet the campgrounds still have their ash trees intact and healthy. So if transporting firewood was the problem, you would think the campgrounds would've lost thier trees also?

As was stated he EAB will travel on its own no matter what we think we can do! But it is easier and feels better to point the finger than accept what nature has given us to deal with!

[westend]

EAB information

[Dave_H_M]

So does wood other than ash carry the EAB?

[Fizz]

In a perfect world the bugs would have eaten themselves out of house and home and died off. They would have most likely cleaned out a State or three but that would have been all... in a perfect world.
With the help of knuckleheads they managed to spread all over.

[3oaks]

Some people have to look at the big picture instead of focusing of the transporting of firewood alone being responsible for spreading tree killing beetles. There are many more factors involved. While not transporting infected firewood will slow the spread, it will not stop the spread of these destructive pests. 😞

How many campers actually carried firewood along with the from the lower 48 state all the way to Alaska? :@

[deweysmith5]

We've lost several ash trees in our lot due to the EAB. One even blew on our roof in a November storm. It was due to be downed the following week. Although Indiana requires all firewood to have bark removed, we are no longer even asked if we have firewood when entering a State Park. The infestation crept closer every year through Michigan into Northern Indiana into my trees. It's going to happen. People are going to carry untreated wood into uninfected areas. It's going to happen naturally also.

[wa8yxm]

dodge guy wrote:
No matter what we do the EAB will travel on its own!

This may be true, or not.. I do recall many years ago another tree pest that was killing trees,, Finally the arborists figured out how to kill the pest and save the trees.. It may happen, with this one too, and the Pine whatever it is out west.

or not,, Because science is being seriously impaired now days.

But that is a topic for elsewhere.

But the big thing is we got to stop transporting untreated wood. PERIOD. I recall a couple years ago reading about a family of RVers or Campers hauling over 500 pounds of bark-on untreated firewood across state lines.... The fine was amazing, and the police had a nice bonfire in a protected area cause that's the only sure way to control it now.

Myself, I have transported infected wood, but ONLY within a quarantine area. (Detroit to Davison MI, both in the same area).

Never outside the area, even to a higher level quarantine area.

I have also compared the cost of buying Firewood NEAR (not in) the campground v/s the cost of splitting and transporting my own.

Cheaper to buy it where you burn it unless it is a very short trip to the Camp Ground. (Detroit-Davison about 1 hour drive (60 miles) I'd not want to haul it farther.

Oh the tree was one of my own had to be cut down as it was a hazard.