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My new TT, where are the trouble spots?

1911_F-350
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I had a used TT for a year and had no issues. I bought a new TT and discovered during the first rain that a window wasn't completely sealed. It just so happened that right under the gutter of my slide out there was a hole/separation in the caulk/window so all that water was being directed into my home.

So once it stopped raining I got the silicon out and made the repar. I also checked all the other Windows and found areas that needed touching up, as in a lot of touching up.

With that said, is there other things/places I need to check or keep an eye on? I read the thread about upgrading the electrical outlets when using things like heaters and like that idea.

Thank you.
06 F-350 DW 4WD
2016 Conquest 260RSL
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1911_F-350
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I posted before that I can see light around the radius of the door as in more than a half inch. Now that snow is here in PA......I assume I need a temporary fix until the temps get spring warm???

Not so much concerned about the heating but the water attacking.

Any quick sealing fix advice for below freezing temps?

I wish I would have bought this sooner and had time to discover all this before now but life is funny sometimes......
06 F-350 DW 4WD
2016 Conquest 260RSL

1911_F-350
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westend wrote:
1911/F-350 wrote:
westend wrote:
In the Spring, I'd suggest to use some caulk remover like "3m Caulk Remover" and get the silicone off your trailer. The caulk removal is easy and, when done and cleaned, apply some Proflex RV, any of the Geocel tripolymer sealants, or Dicor for vertical surfaces.

Water leaks in RV's is like cancer.


When you say remove the silicone do you mean just what I used or all that is on the RV?

I ask because when I bought it the service department did the walk around and mentioned the roof, I told them I was aware of the correct sealant but wasn't sure of the windows. He said to use silicone.

Thank you.
Well, "he" was wrong. Any silicone on your trailer will eventually degrade from weather and UV exposure. At some point, it will break the bond on the surface to which it's applied and can then expose a joint to leaking.

You don't have to believe me, either. Prove it for yourself. Take that same caulk you used and apply silicone on a bare or painted metal surface. Place the test piece in your backyard exposed to the elements and observe. Within a couple of years it will start to loose adhesion.

I've used and use a variety of different caulks and sealants in my work life. The Geocel tripolymer sealants are very good. Proflex RV is one of these. Dicor for vertical surfaces is a urethane based sealant and should be very durable, also.


Thank you for the reply westend, I also added the Proflex to my notes.

After the dealership told me that this was a 26' camper I kind'of figured what they said was to be taken with a grain of salt....

I appreciate everyone's replies and help with this.
06 F-350 DW 4WD
2016 Conquest 260RSL

westend
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1911/F-350 wrote:
westend wrote:
In the Spring, I'd suggest to use some caulk remover like "3m Caulk Remover" and get the silicone off your trailer. The caulk removal is easy and, when done and cleaned, apply some Proflex RV, any of the Geocel tripolymer sealants, or Dicor for vertical surfaces.

Water leaks in RV's is like cancer.


When you say remove the silicone do you mean just what I used or all that is on the RV?

I ask because when I bought it the service department did the walk around and mentioned the roof, I told them I was aware of the correct sealant but wasn't sure of the windows. He said to use silicone.

Thank you.
Well, "he" was wrong. Any silicone on your trailer will eventually degrade from weather and UV exposure. At some point, it will break the bond on the surface to which it's applied and can then expose a joint to leaking.

You don't have to believe me, either. Prove it for yourself. Take that same caulk you used and apply silicone on a bare or painted metal surface. Place the test piece in your backyard exposed to the elements and observe. Within a couple of years it will start to loose adhesion.

I've used and use a variety of different caulks and sealants in my work life. The Geocel tripolymer sealants are very good. Proflex RV is one of these. Dicor for vertical surfaces is a urethane based sealant and should be very durable, also.
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1911_F-350
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LarryJM wrote:


IMHO the two things that have the highest payoff in trailer protection against it's #1 enemy ... WATER are in the two links in my signature. As a third item I would completely redo all the exterior caulking where Eternabond is not feasible with a high quality adhesive/sealant like the 3M Marine 4000UV.

Some will question using the Eternabond on a new trailer as it relates to warranty, but IMO if you do the Eternabond properly warranty will never be needed. Two areas that needs particular attention are the four roof corners where the front/rear cap molding forms a right angle with the trim molding that runs up the front/sides and onto the roof. That area forms a "dam" where water will pool and eventually normal caulking will fail and you'll get a leak at that corner. The other are all the lights and any exposed screws including all those under the vinyl insert molding and my Eternabond link has IMO a couple of good methods/alternatives to effective seal those against any potential water intrusion.

Lastely I'm a firm believer in the RainKap system for two reasons, it effectively eliminates any black streak issues and it helps to prevent leaks from any fittings under it since the water will not normally run down the sides of the trailer.

Larry


Thank you very much Larry, I will take notes and put them in a file. I really appreciate the information.
06 F-350 DW 4WD
2016 Conquest 260RSL

LarryJM
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1911/F-350 wrote:
I had a used TT for a year and had no issues. I bought a new TT and discovered during the first rain that a window wasn't completely sealed. It just so happened that right under the gutter of my slide out there was a hole/separation in the caulk/window so all that water was being directed into my home.

So once it stopped raining I got the silicon out and made the repar. I also checked all the other Windows and found areas that needed touching up, as in a lot of touching up.

With that said, is there other things/places I need to check or keep an eye on? I read the thread about upgrading the electrical outlets when using things like heaters and like that idea.

Thank you.


IMHO the two things that have the highest payoff in trailer protection against it's #1 enemy ... WATER are in the two links in my signature. As a third item I would completely redo all the exterior caulking where Eternabond is not feasible with a high quality adhesive/sealant like the 3M Marine 4000UV.

Some will question using the Eternabond on a new trailer as it relates to warranty, but IMO if you do the Eternabond properly warranty will never be needed. Two areas that needs particular attention are the four roof corners where the front/rear cap molding forms a right angle with the trim molding that runs up the front/sides and onto the roof. That area forms a "dam" where water will pool and eventually normal caulking will fail and you'll get a leak at that corner. The other are all the lights and any exposed screws including all those under the vinyl insert molding and my Eternabond link has IMO a couple of good methods/alternatives to effective seal those against any potential water intrusion.

Lastely I'm a firm believer in the RainKap system for two reasons, it effectively eliminates any black streak issues and it helps to prevent leaks from any fittings under it since the water will not normally run down the sides of the trailer.

Larry
2001 standard box 7.3L E-350 PSD Van with 4.10 rear and 2007 Holiday Rambler Aluma-Lite 8306S Been RV'ing since 1974.
RAINKAP INSTALL////ETERNABOND INSTALL

1911_F-350
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RVcircus wrote:
+1 for resealing. I'd do a thorough check of all seams, windows, doors, compartments and reseal anything that needs it. Before doing this make sire all the silicone is removed.


Yes, the door.......I noticed huge 1/2" gaps around the corner radius of the door today that the rubber gasket was covering from the outside but visible from the inside.

I am not complaining at all, just looking where improvements need to be made.

Thank you all for replying.
06 F-350 DW 4WD
2016 Conquest 260RSL

1911_F-350
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westend wrote:
In the Spring, I'd suggest to use some caulk remover like "3m Caulk Remover" and get the silicone off your trailer. The caulk removal is easy and, when done and cleaned, apply some Proflex RV, any of the Geocel tripolymer sealants, or Dicor for vertical surfaces.

Water leaks in RV's is like cancer.


When you say remove the silicone do you mean just what I used or all that is on the RV?

I ask because when I bought it the service department did the walk around and mentioned the roof, I told them I was aware of the correct sealant but wasn't sure of the windows. He said to use silicone.

Thank you.
06 F-350 DW 4WD
2016 Conquest 260RSL

RVcircus
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+1 for resealing. I'd do a thorough check of all seams, windows, doors, compartments and reseal anything that needs it. Before doing this make sire all the silicone is removed.
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westend
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In the Spring, I'd suggest to use some caulk remover like "3m Caulk Remover" and get the silicone off your trailer. The caulk removal is easy and, when done and cleaned, apply some Proflex RV, any of the Geocel tripolymer sealants, or Dicor for vertical surfaces.

Water leaks in RV's is like cancer.
'03 F-250 4x4 CC
'71 Starcraft Wanderstar -- The Cowboy/Hilton

mgirardo
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I would check any outside storage compartments that use inside space as the compartment. On our previous HTT, all of the outside storage compartments used inside space for the compartment. None of those compartment doors were sealed at the bottom by the factory. One of the compartments at the front of the trailer leaked. After 4 years, we found the leak and had to replace most of the floor on the front half of the trailer.

-Michael
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Dick_B
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Caulk the top and sides of all of the outside lights.
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1911_F-350
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Thank you for the welcome DutchmenSport!

Last year I spent 130 days in a 16' TT for work because I was sick of living in hotels. It appeared that the job was not only going to continue but I would be out even longer so I purchased my current rig.

It is my "Other Home" and just want to protect it and my investment. I thank you again for your reply.
06 F-350 DW 4WD
2016 Conquest 260RSL

1911_F-350
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Thank you for the replies and if I would have had time I would have researched the proper sealant but since I had a couple gallons of water in the floor and PA winter about to hit I did the best I could.:)

I do love researching things and this is part of why I am here! I will have the proper sealant ready to go and probably redo all of the windows come spring.

Thank you again!
06 F-350 DW 4WD
2016 Conquest 260RSL

colliehauler
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I would not use silicon on a RV, I would use a sealant made for RV's.