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[harley001]

looking at a fuzion 302 35 ft dry wt is 11,165 would my 2007 dodge ram 2500 pull this ok it is a toy hauler.

thanks for the help mike

[Tammy88]

We have a 2007 Dodge 2500 Cummins 4X4 Quad Cab and 2011 Fuzion 302 - haul a Harley and ATV. Have put about 20K miles on the combo driving everywhere between Colorado and Alabama over the last three years with zero problems. We did add air bags to the truck but no other mods.

[NC_Hauler]

blt2ski wrote:
Jim,

Me thinks you have been into the hot buttered rum!

Enjoy your day off, and merry christmas to you!

Marty

Hey Marty, and I don't even drink:) You and your's have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year buddy

[blt2ski]

Jim,

Me thinks you have been into the hot buttered rum!

Enjoy your day off, and merry christmas to you!

Marty

[NC_Hauler]

blt2ski wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:

harley001 wrote:
ok did find out that 2007 ram 2500 slt has a 11.50 AAM axle rated @ 10,120# theywent to that in 2005 from a dana 80 if that would help.

thanks mike

you should be good to go, no issues whatsoever...The axle on your 07 3/4 ton pickup is rated to carry more than the axle on my 2013 dually by a susbstantial amount...Wonder why they deemed it a mere 3/4 ton pick-up? Appears you should be able to tow just about any 5er you care to tow. With a RAWR of 10,120#, your more than equipped to tow a heavier 5er with your 07" 2500 then I am with my 3500 1 ton Dually....problem solved, purchase whatever 5th wheel you like, you should have zero issues as stated by most everyone in here. Happy Camping and Merry Christmas to you....Wonder why they only badged that 2500 as a 2500? Could have easily been badged as a 3500 dually, less the extra wheels....hold on to that tuck, it's a "one of a kind":)

The axel housing etc itself is rated to 10120. The springs, tires rims etc probably have lower ratings. Tires probably in the 6000-6800 range. springs a bit more.

Marty

If I could get one of those axles on a 1/2 ton, and match it up with a spring pack or air bags, tires and wheels, all my desires would be met....a 1/2 ton with good mpg, capable of towing a 17,000# 5er without any issues whatsoever.....guess I've been wrong all these years and all those that ignore the numbers have been right in doing so.. ALL these trucks are capable of towing FAR, FAR more than the manufacturers recommended numbers state, I've been lied to all these years by the manufacturers of these trucks, everyone could have gotten a 1/2 or 3/4 ton and been done with it, absolutely no need for 1 ton SRW or 1 ton DRW trucks, basically a consumer rip off by GM, Ford and Ram for the gullible who have purchased them,(like me):o thinking I needed them, when in reality all I needed was either airbags or tires that carry more weight on a 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton, after all, they're identical in every way, what a stupid fool I've been..oh well, live and learn.....

Merry Christmas to all the intelligent one's out there, as well as those of us who are too stupid to know anything about the trucks we tow with..or recommend to others:B

[Old-Biscuit]

blt2ski wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:

harley001 wrote:
ok did find out that 2007 ram 2500 slt has a 11.50 AAM axle rated @ 10,120# theywent to that in 2005 from a dana 80 if that would help.

thanks mike

you should be good to go, no issues whatsoever...The axle on your 07 3/4 ton pickup is rated to carry more than the axle on my 2013 dually by a susbstantial amount...Wonder why they deemed it a mere 3/4 ton pick-up? Appears you should be able to tow just about any 5er you care to tow. With a RAWR of 10,120#, your more than equipped to tow a heavier 5er with your 07" 2500 then I am with my 3500 1 ton Dually....problem solved, purchase whatever 5th wheel you like, you should have zero issues as stated by most everyone in here. Happy Camping and Merry Christmas to you....Wonder why they only badged that 2500 as a 2500? Could have easily been badged as a 3500 dually, less the extra wheels....hold on to that tuck, it's a "one of a kind":)

The axel housing etc itself is rated to 10120. The springs, tires rims etc probably have lower ratings. Tires probably in the 6000-6800 range. springs a bit more.

Marty

OP has 245/75 17" tires......3195# MAX Load at MAX PSI 80#/per tire
A GVWR of 9000# with a RAWR of 6000#

Can't tow a 11K dry weight TH and stay within ratings....period

BUT ratings are just numbers......forget about them and tow what ever your little heart desires.
Merry Christmas

[harley001]

Thanks Guy's for all the help hope you all have a Merry christmas and safe one.

Mike & Debra

[blt2ski]

NC Hauler wrote:

harley001 wrote:
ok did find out that 2007 ram 2500 slt has a 11.50 AAM axle rated @ 10,120# theywent to that in 2005 from a dana 80 if that would help.

thanks mike

you should be good to go, no issues whatsoever...The axle on your 07 3/4 ton pickup is rated to carry more than the axle on my 2013 dually by a susbstantial amount...Wonder why they deemed it a mere 3/4 ton pick-up? Appears you should be able to tow just about any 5er you care to tow. With a RAWR of 10,120#, your more than equipped to tow a heavier 5er with your 07" 2500 then I am with my 3500 1 ton Dually....problem solved, purchase whatever 5th wheel you like, you should have zero issues as stated by most everyone in here. Happy Camping and Merry Christmas to you....Wonder why they only badged that 2500 as a 2500? Could have easily been badged as a 3500 dually, less the extra wheels....hold on to that tuck, it's a "one of a kind":)

The axel housing etc itself is rated to 10120. The springs, tires rims etc probably have lower ratings. Tires probably in the 6000-6800 range. springs a bit more.

Marty

[NC_Hauler]

harley001 wrote:
ok did find out that 2007 ram 2500 slt has a 11.50 AAM axle rated @ 10,120# theywent to that in 2005 from a dana 80 if that would help.

thanks mike

you should be good to go, no issues whatsoever...The axle on your 07 3/4 ton pickup is rated to carry more than the axle on my 2013 dually by a susbstantial amount...Wonder why they deemed it a mere 3/4 ton pick-up? Appears you should be able to tow just about any 5er you care to tow. With a RAWR of 10,120#, your more than equipped to tow a heavier 5er with your 07" 2500 then I am with my 3500 1 ton Dually....problem solved, purchase whatever 5th wheel you like, you should have zero issues as stated by most everyone in here. Happy Camping and Merry Christmas to you....Wonder why they only badged that 2500 as a 2500? Could have easily been badged as a 3500 dually, less the extra wheels....hold on to that tuck, it's a "one of a kind":)

[harley001]

ok did find out that 2007 ram 2500 slt has a 11.50 AAM axle rated @ 10,120# theywent to that in 2005 from a dana 80 if that would help.

thanks mike

[harley001]

Thanks for the help not sure what my axle is rated at need to check into that but looks like I would be at max on the truck just want to be safe.

thanks! mike

[NC_Hauler]

06Fargo wrote:
NC Hauler

I stand corrected, questioned????, and fully SHOUTED down.

Merry Christmas 🙂

I apologize, didn't mean to come on like that....just wanted to say that using the 6,000# axle and using tires to up it's capacity to 9,000#, wasn't the same as having a 9000# axle and upping tire capacity to match axle rating.

Sorry for the shouting....I hope you and yours have a Very marry Christmas and a safe and prosperous New Year...:B

Jim

[fla-gypsy]

NC Hauler wrote:

Bedlam wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:
Heck, you can buy a license for almost any weight you want I figure. But what I'm saying is how safe is it to purchase tires that can carry more weight than the AXLE is rated at? Unless I'm just misunderstanding the whole post. Take a 6,084# rated axle, put tires on the truck that can handle a total of 9,000#, and now, though the axle is rated almost 3,000# less than the tire rating, I can now carry almost 3,000# more payload???:h Really don't think it works that way...unless, someone knows that the 6,084# RAWR isn't correct and that it'll actually handle the 9,000# that the tires can now carry....

You seem to pick and choose what I wrote. It is a Sterling 10.5" axle rated at 9750 lbs. The 6200 lb RAWR on my sticker is due to the lowest rated component that shipped with my truck. Upgrading tires, rims and suspension does bring up this rating as long as none of the individual components are over their rating.

GVWR is also possible to alter if you know that other similarly configured vehicles have a greater GVWR than yours. When you find the lower rated component that differentiates the vehicles and replace that component with a higher rated one, your GVWR can safely increase.

This takes time-consuming research into what components are used and what the component specifications are verses a combination of components. Some people are adept at this research and the required modifications while others are better off purchasing a different vehicle rather than upgrading an existing one.

No, I don't "pick and choose" what YOU post, I have no reason to do that. How can YOU ASSUME earlier in this thread that the OP "probably" has a rear axle rating of over 9,000# and just "take off from there"??:h My 2013 Ram 3500 DUALLY only has a RAWR of 9,750#..I find it extremely hard to believe that his 07 2500 has close to the the same RAWR as my 13' Dually......don't you??? I didn't assume, I went by what he stated. BUT, when I see where SOMEONE, don't know who...say's something about a 6,080# rated rear axle and they're being told to just add a tire that can handle more weight...seems like there is some assumptions going on there BEFORE the fact that we don't know about...so, to add tires to where it can handle 9,000#...THAT's what "I" was speaking to....

Heck, you have the same rear axle rating on your truck as I do on my 13'...and again, I REALLY don't care one way or the other...If someone had STATED they had a RAWR of 9,750# and it was limited by the OEM tires, hey, simple math, and I've had a LOT of that in my day's as an Engineer...have at it, BUT, when someone, I don't know who, states they have a rear axle rated at 6,000# and Doesn't qualify in the same post that it's ACTUALLY RATED AT 9,750#, sorry, I will wonder why they would add a tire that can carry more weight than the axle can handle.

"pick and choose" what you posted? hardly.....If I got your post mixed up with someone else's than my bad and I apologize..I don't see anything wrong with covering the axles weight rating with tires that can handle the axles weight rating. "I" was ADDRESSING if someone actually HAD a Rear axle rated at 6,000 whatever pounds (as was alluded to on here somewhere), and someone suggest going to a tire that will give them an additional 3,000# of cargo carrying capacity, that might not be the smart thing to do, IF they only have a rear axle weight rating at 6,000 something pounds.....

So how far do we got now...we've kicked out GVWR..it's a joke, a meaningless, useless number...hey, I'll even almost, but not yet, buy into that...but NOW, EVEN IF THE REAR AXLE HAS A POSTED RATING OF "WHATEVER"...I will also ignore that???? I mean if it ACTUALLY IS rated at what it's stated to be rated at..we just put higher weight range tires on it and it is now a 9,000 rated rear axle EVEN THOUGH, manufacturer STATES it's a 6,000# rated axle:h

Before long, as someone suggested sometime back, kick out 1500, 2500, 3500 SRW and 3500 DRW truck badging.. buy whatever truck you like, tow whatever you want with it, ignore most, if not all manufacturer recommended towing and hauling specs, buy some tires and airbags and go and just "hook up and go"...one could save a pile of money that way to be sure...

Thus the problem with the "Ratings are just suggestions/warranty issues/performance issue crowd".

To the OP, there are some of us who think the manufacturers ratings have real purpose and the engineers that established them have "good" reasons for establishing for it. Some think "safety" is just a buzzword, some of us live it. It's your truck and trailer and you can do anything you want with it but I feel if you exceed any of the ratings you have added risk that is not necessary and is inherently unsafe by doing so. JMO based on 30 years of safety training, management and experience.

[noteven]

harley001 wrote:
ok looked on the door
tires 265/70 17 10 ply
f gawr-4750
r gawr-6010

may need to step down mike

Hi harley001 - pm sent to you with actual weight information from our pickup and 39ft toyhauler.

[noteven]

NC Hauler

I stand corrected, questioned????, and fully SHOUTED down.

Merry Christmas 🙂