โFeb-17-2018 03:34 PM
โApr-11-2018 03:52 PM
โApr-11-2018 12:06 PM
drsteve wrote:
Urban legends are so entertaining...
โApr-11-2018 11:59 AM
โApr-11-2018 11:41 AM
fj12ryder wrote:Ralph Cramden wrote:And you know these "facts" exactly how? Polls, personal examination of the people in those older RV's? Just interested in how you know these things? Or perhaps just stereotypical speculation?
Racism and vitriol LOL........
Reality is not racism.........
Your bleeding heart attitude is exactly why you have older RVs parked in vacant lots, wide spots in roads, and parking lots in the area where you live. Do people fall on hard times? Sure they do. But a higher percentage of those people in those RVs choose their own path. Living in a rundown RV alongside a road does not qualify as a race, and criticism of a generational demographic does not qualify as racism.
But I'll take your advice, since you have apparently self appointed yourself as moderator on these boards.
โApr-11-2018 08:49 AM
โApr-11-2018 08:18 AM
โApr-11-2018 07:36 AM
Ralph Cramden wrote:And you know these "facts" exactly how? Polls, personal examination of the people in those older RV's? Just interested in how you know these things? Or perhaps just stereotypical speculation?
Racism and vitriol LOL........
Reality is not racism.........
Your bleeding heart attitude is exactly why you have older RVs parked in vacant lots, wide spots in roads, and parking lots in the area where you live. Do people fall on hard times? Sure they do. But a higher percentage of those people in those RVs choose their own path. Living in a rundown RV alongside a road does not qualify as a race, and criticism of a generational demographic does not qualify as racism.
But I'll take your advice, since you have apparently self appointed yourself as moderator on these boards.
โApr-10-2018 09:42 PM
Roy&Lynne wrote:Ralph Cramden wrote:drsteve wrote:Roy&Lynne wrote:
We all know that as the cost of housing goes up, more and more folks are looking to living in RVs, not for camping and travel but just to have a roof over their heads. In my area, older RVs are seen parked in vacant lots, wide spots in roads, or parking lots. They might be there a day or two, or until someone complains and the police ask them to move on. More and more cities are now passing laws making this practice unlawful. More and more States are now allowing overnight parking at rest stops and we are going to find it more and more difficult to find places for overnight camping, especially in urban areas.
The US has become a low wage nation. Unless that changes, expect more poverty.
Have to call BS on that statement. What it has become is a nation of lazy people who believe everything should be handed to them and they should graduate high school, attend college on someone else's dime, then graduate and command $150K the first day of employment for playing around all day on Facebook and Twitter. I have been in the Industrial, Heavy, and Commercial construction industry for close to 35 years and what I have seen in the last 10, with the coming of age of millenials into the management end of things, is enough to make me want to puke. I have yet to see a smartphone or laptop put a building together, and when one of these snot noses gets in a position with some financial control, say a Project Manager, you had better deal with them by dotting I's and crossing T's because they tend to lie often. It's all about them. Sadly, the days of the jobsite handshake when it comes to changes and financial dealings are long over. Even if they say "please do it because we need it today, and I'll issue a change order as soon as I can" in open forum like a meeting with 20 people in attendence, you're probably going to get a good screwing for your effort later when selective memory loss sets in.
Get below the management level and try and find trade workers that are qualified, show up on time and consistently, and actually work. Good luck. Were not talking minimum wage jobs here either.
I have a new found respect for my little buddies from the deep deep South whose presence I resisted for years. At least they work, and work their asses off to boot.
There are tons of sites on the internet where racism and vitriol can be appreciated, but that isn't here. Here we need to refrain from pointing fingers and blaming others and discuss what interests us all, and that is RV travel.
โApr-10-2018 07:27 PM
Ralph Cramden wrote:drsteve wrote:Roy&Lynne wrote:
We all know that as the cost of housing goes up, more and more folks are looking to living in RVs, not for camping and travel but just to have a roof over their heads. In my area, older RVs are seen parked in vacant lots, wide spots in roads, or parking lots. They might be there a day or two, or until someone complains and the police ask them to move on. More and more cities are now passing laws making this practice unlawful. More and more States are now allowing overnight parking at rest stops and we are going to find it more and more difficult to find places for overnight camping, especially in urban areas.
The US has become a low wage nation. Unless that changes, expect more poverty.
Have to call BS on that statement. What it has become is a nation of lazy people who believe everything should be handed to them and they should graduate high school, attend college on someone else's dime, then graduate and command $150K the first day of employment for playing around all day on Facebook and Twitter. I have been in the Industrial, Heavy, and Commercial construction industry for close to 35 years and what I have seen in the last 10, with the coming of age of millenials into the management end of things, is enough to make me want to puke. I have yet to see a smartphone or laptop put a building together, and when one of these snot noses gets in a position with some financial control, say a Project Manager, you had better deal with them by dotting I's and crossing T's because they tend to lie often. It's all about them. Sadly, the days of the jobsite handshake when it comes to changes and financial dealings are long over. Even if they say "please do it because we need it today, and I'll issue a change order as soon as I can" in open forum like a meeting with 20 people in attendence, you're probably going to get a good screwing for your effort later when selective memory loss sets in.
Get below the management level and try and find trade workers that are qualified, show up on time and consistently, and actually work. Good luck. Were not talking minimum wage jobs here either.
I have a new found respect for my little buddies from the deep deep South whose presence I resisted for years. At least they work, and work their asses off to boot.
โApr-10-2018 05:52 PM
JaxDad wrote:
Our family farm brings in quite a few seasonal migrant workers form Central America.
Others who do the same and me are constantly hearing similar disparaging comments to the effect that weโre โgiving away jobs to foreignersโ even though we canโt get permission to bring anyone in until we post the job openings with the government unemployment office for 3 months and still need workers.
We have never gotten a single job applicant for those jobs.
When I hear those comments my reply is always the same, โNo problem. Be there at 5am with your work boots. Donโt worry about lunch though, we provide it for free.โ
Not one of them has EVER showed up.
โApr-10-2018 01:53 PM
โApr-10-2018 05:02 AM
โApr-10-2018 02:53 AM
OFDPOS wrote:seaeagle2 wrote:
Here is Seattle, there are semi industrial parts of town where homeless people park derelict RV's, in several areas they've put 2am to 5am no parking zones to try to eliminate "stealth or not so stealth camping". They tried having areas where homeless could park their RV's, there were some fires, and some issues with drug use and they ran the numbers and decided that for what they could park 20 rvs they could provide shelter for quite few more so they dropped the program.
Was just up by Seattle visiting our son and fiancee both are in law enforcement.
Both said the state of Washington considers what a person is living in is their home/castle.
Meaning they can pretty much park their MH/tent and not be bothered by the law.
I can't tell you where we were ?
But we were driving down some nice streets with million dollar plus homes with the Seattle city view across the water. And there were MH's , travel trailers , even some on blocks , parked right out front of them and they said they have been there for months...
We saw this everywhere we went, they drove us around where we saw the Space Needle from the North, South, East and West and it was tent city, RV's parked everywhere and you could tell they had been there for a very long time.
As for Wally world parking.. Yep its getting worse and worse..
In the past going across country we would try to either Wally world , truck stop, or etc first two nights. Then on the third night hit up a CG , dump , flush, refill FW tank.
Then on the next third night pull off early, hit up a Wally world or ? replenish food . Head into a CG set up , and do laundry.
That worked out pretty good, once in a great while it would bite us and we would have to travel a few more miles before finding a place to catch a few hours of shut-eye.
Like a few posted earlier, there are alot of times you pull off after 7PM and the CG office doors are locked up, shower doors are locked, laundry house doors are locked. With just the night drop box to pay.
Every time I've walked up in the morning to the office and explained what took place and they agreed to only charge so much.
Only time it didn't happen was at a chain RV park.
We don't stop at them anymore.
โApr-10-2018 01:08 AM
drsteve wrote:Roy&Lynne wrote:
We all know that as the cost of housing goes up, more and more folks are looking to living in RVs, not for camping and travel but just to have a roof over their heads. In my area, older RVs are seen parked in vacant lots, wide spots in roads, or parking lots. They might be there a day or two, or until someone complains and the police ask them to move on. More and more cities are now passing laws making this practice unlawful. More and more States are now allowing overnight parking at rest stops and we are going to find it more and more difficult to find places for overnight camping, especially in urban areas.
The US has become a low wage nation. Unless that changes, expect more poverty.