โAug-29-2016 11:52 AM
โSep-02-2016 12:03 PM
Commutator wrote:
In case you weren't aware, in 2011 they modified the Class G definition (again) to remove the need for a restricted 'A' for RV 5th wheels over 4600kg if the total rig is under 11000kg. That removed the need for a lot of the FW drivers to have the restricted 'A'. Not for a big loaded toy hauler though!
โSep-02-2016 10:59 AM
โSep-01-2016 05:18 PM
Commutator wrote:
shum02, I'm familiar with the reciprocity on drivers licenses. That's no problem. My truck is in fact commercial though due to its weight. Look at section 16 of the Act if you want to read the definition. It kicks in at 4500kg.
Ontario rules have changed recently. I researched them carefully for me since a number of my friends were pulled over and fined. So my 15yr old approach of "ignorance is bliss" was showing its weakness! It was expensive research as my truck plate costs me $650/yr now because my total weight is over 10K kg. (Yes, I'm legal with a class G license as my trailer is under 4600kg.) I was already doing most of the annual inspection work every spring anyway so the added cost for the stickers wasn't much for me.
I was told by one MTO person that RGW must now include both the truck & trailer whether it's an RV trailer or not. I don't know if that's correct or if affects you anyway but I'll toss it out there. I personally would want to see that in print before I paid to register the weight of an RV trailer with my truck.
...Fred
โSep-01-2016 11:13 AM
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โAug-31-2016 06:26 AM
Commutator wrote:
I can't find where to get answers to this. In Ontario, Canada all pickup trucks are registered as commercial vehicles. No choice. I'd like to use my pickup (without the truck camper loaded) to tow one or two cars (plated in my name) in my enclosed utility trailer to Florida for the winter. While in Ontario I am exempted from log books, inspection records, and most other commercial rules as I meet some specific "personal use" parameters in Ontario law. I doubt those personal use exemptions are relevant in the US. Since my truck is registered as commercial I'll look just like a hot shot driver going down the road.
I understand that US residents choose whether to license their trucks as personal or commercial. (How logical!!) And they put those "not for hire" signs out to clarify. My issue is how can I legally go through the US with my "commercial" pickup truck and utility trailer? If I have to do weigh scales, logs, etc. and risk fines/delays for my newbie mistakes, it is probably not worth it.
Anyone know where I can get this information?
Thanks,
Fred
โAug-30-2016 12:21 PM
โAug-30-2016 10:20 AM
beemerphile1 wrote:
You are not a commercial operation and have no reason to stop, drive on by.
โAug-30-2016 10:12 AM
Commutator wrote:
First, thanks to all for your input. I didn't realize that some states also require pickups to be plated as commercial so it's not just some Canadian vehicles with this issue.
Second, some people seem to base their responses on how my rig looks in my sig picture. I've been driving through the US for years like that and not worried about it at all. I look like an RV and figured they would not care. I also know I'm (barely) OK on my weight limits. There won't be any resemblance to an RV when towing with an empty pickup box pulling that trailer.
Wadcutter, thanks very much for the insight. There's no commercial aspect to what I'm doing except for my truck plates. I'm not hauling for sale, rental, possible prize money, nothing like that. Just for the novelty of driving around Florida with a Model T and our friends there.
This brings a little clarity, which is obvious, but I'd not seen. Yes, I know there is reciprocity re my drivers license and since I can legally drive my rig here without a CDL that will be true elsewhere in N America too. Similarly my valid vehicle registration will be respected. But what we are really talking about are the rules of operation on the road. Those have to be followed based on the jurisdiction you're in. I'll poke away at it a bit more but this has been a big help.
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