FDA Baffled and asking dog owners for answers??

[rockhillmanor]

FDA is asking "US"-dog owners, on national TV tonight"....

Why approx 600 dogs have died and around 3,000 have become ill after
eating jerky treats from China made of chicken, duck, sweet potato.???? :S:S

Isn't that THEIR job? 😞

The world 'has' gone crazy.





Costa Rica that's the place to be. :C

[CA_POPPY]

dturm wrote:
History is a little sketchy as there are parents and grandparents that "share custody". We're trying to pin everybody down on treats/foods/supplements and waiting for pending lab results.\

It's just unusual for an otherwise healthy 4 year old dog to go in to acute kidney failure for no apparent reason.

The dog didn't lose all kidney function and is gaining back every day, so I think he's out of the woods.

Doug

Supplements? Oh, cheez! That's scary, to think we are trying to help our old doggies and might be doing more damage. I sure hope they figure something out soon! Glad your patient seems to be making it.

[dturm]

History is a little sketchy as there are parents and grandparents that "share custody". We're trying to pin everybody down on treats/foods/supplements and waiting for pending lab results.\

It's just unusual for an otherwise healthy 4 year old dog to go in to acute kidney failure for no apparent reason.

The dog didn't lose all kidney function and is gaining back every day, so I think he's out of the woods.

Doug

[Francesca_Knowl]

dturm wrote:
We may have had our first patient. Still don't know for sure, but acute kidney failure with no evidence of underlying disease (lepto titer still pending), infection or other toxin. The dog is doing fine after two days of fluid therapy, but it shows the difficulty in tracking down these things, even at a point of care area, we can't be sure of cause.

Doug, DVM

Hope the dog continues to improve...

Can we assume that there are "Chinese chews" in its history, and if so, is this a case that it would be useful to report?

[BCSnob]

Clearly, the FDA is not doing enough.:R

"I like to regard myself as someone who's capable of critical thought, that is to say, who can evaluate claims."
Bill Nye

[Deb_and_Ed_M]

That's an amazing amount of testing - and rather scary that they don't have answers......

[dturm]

We may have had our first patient. Still don't know for sure, but acute kidney failure with no evidence of underlying disease (lepto titer still pending), infection or other toxin. The dog is doing fine after two days of fluid therapy, but it shows the difficulty in tracking down these things, even at a point of care area, we can't be sure of cause.

Doug, DVM

[BCSnob]

For those who don't think the FDA/CVM has done enough testing to determine what's wrong with these jerky treats this is what they have tested thus far.

We conducted bacterial, compositional and toxicological analyses, and evaluated irradiation effects on glycerin; however, each sample did not necessarily undergo all four analyses. The specific types of tests we conducted on jerky treat products include:

• Microbiological Testing
o Bacterial culture for Salmonella
o Bacterial enterotoxin
o Mold and yeast culture
o Mycotoxin

• Compositional Testing
o Physical characteristics evaluation
o Composition with glycerol content
o Vitamin D content
o DNA analysis

• Chemical Toxicology Testing
o General screens for toxic compounds: restricted list
o Metals: various heavy metals
o Glycols: diethylene glycol-DEG; ethylene glycol-EG; propylene glycol-PEG; dihydroxyacetone (DHA); and 1,3 Propanediol
o Glycerin metabolites: glycolic acid, diglycolic acid, and lactic acid
o Sugar alcohols: xylitol (added in 2013), sorbitol (added in 2013), glycerol
o Other organics: hexachlorobutadiene, paraquat, aristolochic acid, and oxalic acid (added in 2013)
o Antibiotics: gentamicin, tetracycline degradation products, sulfonamides (sulfaclozine, sulfaquinoxaline), trimethoprim, enrofloxacin, tilmicosin; several samples also tested for: sulfamethoxazole, sulfamethazine, sulfadiazine, sulfathiazole, sulfanilamide, sulfadimethoxine, sulfasoxizole, chloramphenicol, and gatifloxacin (both added in 2013)
o Drugs: monensin, quinocetone, and additional forensic drug screen (list-restricted information)
o Biogenic amines: putrescine, cadaverine, histamine, agmatine, spermidine, and spermine
Phorbol esters: Jatropha curcas toxins
o Additives/preservatives: nitrites, sulfites
o Tanning agents: tannic acid and gallic acid
o Flavoring agents: monosodium glutamate-MSG (added in 2013), malic acid, maleic acid, methyl-4-pentenoate (added in 2013), and fumaric acid (added in 2013)
o Illegal dye agents: Auramine, Bixin, Butter Yellow, Fast Garnet, Metanil Yellow, Orange II, Orange Oil SS, Para Red, Rhodamine B, Sudan Black B, Sudan I-IV G, Sudan Orange, Sudan Red 7B, Sudan Red B, Sudan Red G and Toluidine Red

• Evaluation of Jerky Treat Irradiation
o Furan analysis
o 2-dodecylcyclobutanone (2-DCB)

Source: Jerky Pet Treat Investigation

More details are available at the link (21 page document).

[AZPops]

Deb and Ed M wrote:
Pops, you need a new hobby!!!!!

Huh? ... What? .... That wasn't me, it was that anonymous person!


Pops

[Deb_and_Ed_M]

Pops, you need a new hobby!!!!!

[Code2High]

BCSnob wrote:

Code2High wrote:

antiquedrose wrote:
List of recalled dog meds

Wow...that's reassuring. Not.

Not really that bad considering it is a multi year list and most line items are simply different lots or different package sizes of the same med.; now compare the recall list to the long list of dog meds on the market.

A-Z Veterinary Treatment List

Now go look at the list of recalled human drugs during just 2013.

2013 Safety Alerts for Human Medical Products

You'll note there are some common company names on both recalled lists and in some cases for the same problem.

Hospira brand Lidocaine and Marcaine: Recall - Presence Of Particulate

Good point.

[BCSnob]

[Francesca_Knowl]

Code2High wrote:
Food Fight!!!!!! :B :B :B

[BCSnob]

Code2High wrote:

antiquedrose wrote:
List of recalled dog meds

Wow...that's reassuring. Not.

Not really that bad considering it is a multi year list and most line items are simply different lots or different package sizes of the same med.; now compare the recall list to the long list of dog meds on the market.

A-Z Veterinary Treatment List

Now go look at the list of recalled human drugs during just 2013.

2013 Safety Alerts for Human Medical Products

You'll note there are some common company names on both recalled lists and in some cases for the same problem.

Hospira brand Lidocaine and Marcaine: Recall - Presence Of Particulate

[AZPops]

I'm no scientist or noth'in but I've been looking at Coyote poop and it's got lots of big seeds in it! ..... Just an unscientific observation!

Anonymous