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Changed hot water heater, now, no hot water.

motc777
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I've done some research on this, but this is puzzling the **** out of me.

I have a travel trailer, and the hot water heater that came with it, which was a Suburban that has a manual pilot light, rusted out. No big deal, so I got the exact same model and installed it. Pilot light fires up and it fills up with water it seems.

However, when I go to turn on the faucet, hot water comes out for about 5 seconds and then it is ice cold from there. I have included a pic of our setup and this is exactly what it looks like on the back of the hot water heater.

I currently have it in this position as we speak. Now, I've checked from the relief valve outside and can confirm, there is hot water in there. What I do not understand is why this thing is happening now? Just FYI, prior to replacing the hot water heater, we did not have this issue described above. I also removed the brass fittings from the old water heater and put them on the new one. They seemed to be in good working order.

Any help is appreciated! This is driving me insane.
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VoodooMedicineM
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KISS
Bill and Joey the dog

CharlesinGA
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For all who commented on the lack of a shut off in the cross connect tube, the single valve serves this purpose.It is NOT a simple shut off valve, but rather a multiport valve. Put it in the position shown in the pic, it allows water to flow to the heater, but NOT thru the cross over tube. Turn the handle vertical, and it shuts off flow to the heater and redirects the flow thru the cross over tube and into the hot side. The check valve prevents it from getting into the tank. I think this is a rather common valve, my '07 motorhome has the same valve, different location, but same function.

Charles
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motc777
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Update:

Definitely had the two valves on the back of the HW Heater reversed. I swapped them, and 30 minutes later, we got piping hot water!

I want to thank everyone for weighing in on this. We live out in the country in these two trailers, and not having hot water during fall, heading into winter, is no fun. Many thanks again!
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Chris_Bryant
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Note that the check valve is only needed to use the bypass- for normal operation, a simple pipe nipple, or the check valve with the guts removed, will work fine.
-- Chris Bryant

Byrogie
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The only stupid question is the one that is not asked.....

midnightsadie
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there are no stupid questions on here, we all have had a senior moment now and then. good luck and don,t burn yourself .

motc777
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I'm feeling kind of stupid right now. I'll report back later tonight the results.

I guess on the bright side of all of this, at least I'm using tools and trying to do it myself.
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VoodooMedicineM
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x2
Bill and Joey the dog

Dick_B
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My simple mind prefers the three valve bypass arrangement.
Dick_B
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Artum_Snowbird
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Yes, that is the check valve. Start with a new one. There is an arrow on the flat that shows direction. Water comes out of the HWT through that check valve when you are connected to pressure and water flows into the HWT. You want it to work so when you bypass the HWT and drain it, antifreeze cannot flow in reverse through the check valve and into the HWT. I know this... don't ask how I know.
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donn0128
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OK, you have them backwords. The check valve needs to be on the hot out(top) hole.

RWjSIM2003
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Did you open up the pressure relief Valve on the WH and then let it fill up the tank until water comes out the valve. This will let you know that the tank is full. If you did not do this step you will get very little hot water out of the tank.

motc777
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dougrainer wrote:
1. On this type setup, there should be a Brass Check valve at the top hot water exit fitting. I will bet, you installed them in reverse. O)n your set up with the 1 valve. When you bypass, the cold water stops at the valve goes up that short pipe and then feeds the downstream Hot water faucet valves. IF you did not install the check valve in the upper Hot water exit on the heater, you are mixing hot and cold. Verify that the check valve is at the top hot exit of the water heater. Are you positive you installed the Check valves correctly? You can reverse them. The ARROW on the check valve at the hot exit should point away from the water heater. Doug


You know what, you may very well be right. Let me ask you this, in this picture, is this what should be installed on the hot water side?

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motc777
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donn0128 wrote:
By brass fitting I assume you mean the check valve on the hot water side?


There were two brass fittings on the old water heater. One on top for the hot and one on the bottom. The one that is currently is in the top (hot) just appears to be a brass fitting that is hollow on the inside.

On the cold water side (bottom) the brass fitting has some type of white plastic little nipple thing on the inside.



Did you in fact fill the tank with water prior to lighting it off? Did you verify that water is flowing from the tank? Turn off the water, disconnect the hot side, connect a hose to it, turn on the water and check to be sure you have water flow. Once that is proved reconnect the hot line and verify the valve is in the correct position. With hot water in the tank by changing valve position you should also verify hot water flow.


Yep. Last night as a matter of fact, I took the hose off the connector to the hot water side and verified that I do have flow. (I just turned it on for like a few seconds and water starting gushing out.) BTW, based on the picture I submitted, is that the position I should have the valve in for normal operation?
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