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Honda specs say 58db at rated load. Meaning, when it is running your air...

Champion, for half the money, says (model 75531i) says 58db. Does NOT say 'at rated load". (like Honda)

I read a review (only one in about a dozen) that said it was LOUD when at rated load.

Anyone have experience with the Champion?

I have the "non RV" champion. It is a champ,but loud.

Half the money for the champion is enticing, but I am ready for quiet.

Thanks
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otrfun
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Ron3rd wrote:
otrfun wrote:
Kinda interesting this thread came up. Day before yesterday I did some dry-camping down in the Keys. Two sites down from me I couldn't help but notice a guy prepping his Honda Handi generator. Walked on over to chat with him for a few minutes. Although he liked the light weight, he admittedly was disappointed that it wasn't nearly as quiet as the "other" Honda inverters. I hung around till he hooked it up and noticed it was very similar in loudness as my Champion 75531i when his compressor kicked on. Not nearly as loud as a typical synchronous "lawnmower" type generator, but distinctly louder than the Yamaha EF2400iSHC, Honda EU2000, or the 140 lb. Honda EU3000iS.


That's because the new "Handi" 3000 watt is not in the same league with the old EU3000 Honda. It's a cheaper version (don't know exactly what)
that's designed to compete with the China clones. Not nearly as quiet as the original EU3000 and the price reflects it. Completely different genny aimed at a different market.


Agree, in terms of noise level, absolutely. But, in terms of price you might be in for a shock. At wisesales.com the the heavy, VERY QUIET, 140 lb. EU3000iS costs $2000---the light, somewhat noisy, "Handi" EU3000iA costs $2300. You're paying a $300 premium for a 3000 watt Honda generator that weighs significantly less at 80 lbs., but at the same time is also 6-7 db louder (than the EU3000iS). If Honda is trying to use the Handi to compete with the Chinese clones (Champion) then its price certainly doesn't reflect it.

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JiminDenver wrote:
Comparing the Champion to the big quiet Honda 3000. then yes the Honda is quieter as well as heavier and more costly.

Comparing the Champion to the Honda Handi and the Champion looks REAL good for less than half the cost.


That's my thinking too.
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otrfun wrote:
Kinda interesting this thread came up. Day before yesterday I did some dry-camping down in the Keys. Two sites down from me I couldn't help but notice a guy prepping his Honda Handi generator. Walked on over to chat with him for a few minutes. Although he liked the light weight, he admittedly was disappointed that it wasn't nearly as quiet as the "other" Honda inverters. I hung around till he hooked it up and noticed it was very similar in loudness as my Champion 75531i when his compressor kicked on. Not nearly as loud as a typical synchronous "lawnmower" type generator, but distinctly louder than the Yamaha EF2400iSHC, Honda EU2000, or the 140 lb. Honda EU3000iS.


That's because the new "Handi" 3000 watt is not in the same league with the old EU3000 Honda. It's a cheaper version (don't know exactly what)
that's designed to compete with the China clones. Not nearly as quiet as the original EU3000 and the price reflects it. Completely different genny aimed at a different market.
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The owner of the champions should call customer service at Champion. I did with the two I purchased several years ago when they struggled with my 15,000 AC. They asked for serial numbers and said send them back for an upgrade at no cost to me. Now, they work great. Apparently there was a problem for some units.
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A group of 3 campers that include myself, my dad, and a buddy spend at least 3 weekends a year camping together at various race tracks. 3 years ago my dad picked up a pair of the 2000 watt champions. I have 2 EU2000's.

After 2 years my dad bought a motorhome with an onboard gen and no longer needed the champs, and sold them to the other buddy who had been using a contractor genset just to charge batteries (when cars were on track....otherwise it was too obnoxious). my point is that I've spent a few weekends with direct comparison of the honda 2000's and the Champs.

In terms of noise - the Honda's are quieter by a bit. It's not a huge difference....if they werent in close proximity you'd never know.

One area where the champions seemed to struggle was with air conditioners. Even with hard start capacitors installed and other loads either removed or greatly reduced they seemed to cut out an awful lot when AC's were fired up and/or run for a long period of time. I've never had that problem with the Honda's on my 15k btu AC unit. I dont know if they were just bum units in that regard or what. In cooler weather without AC the champions performed otherwise admirably.

Just my experience.
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Comparing the Champion to the big quiet Honda 3000. then yes the Honda is quieter as well as heavier and more costly.

Comparing the Champion to the Honda Handi and the Champion looks REAL good for less than half the cost.
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I don't know where Mayberrys is getting their info from.



Mine is from the manufacturer.

Honda Generator book page 16 "Decibel Chart".



It states "Noise levels at rated load, measured at 9 feet(3 meters) from the control panel side of the generator."

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otrfun
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Kinda interesting this thread came up. Day before yesterday I did some dry-camping down in the Keys. Two sites down from me I couldn't help but notice a guy prepping his Honda Handi generator. Walked on over to chat with him for a few minutes. Although he liked the light weight, he admittedly was disappointed that it wasn't nearly as quiet as the "other" Honda inverters. I hung around till he hooked it up and noticed it was very similar in loudness as my Champion 75531i when his compressor kicked on. Not nearly as loud as a typical synchronous "lawnmower" type generator, but distinctly louder than the Yamaha EF2400iSHC, Honda EU2000, or the 140 lb. Honda EU3000iS.

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ceaser 22000 wrote:
I have the champion 3500/4000 watt generator used it the last three weekends although it is not the quietest generator at WOT it is very reliable and fuel efficient and normally starts on one pull.


X2 have the same unit but its NOT in the same leage in terms of quietness as a Honda. My brother has two EU2000s and my cousin has a EU3000 which you can barely hear most of the time.
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I have the champion 3500/4000 watt generator used it the last three weekends although it is not the quietest generator at WOT it is very reliable and fuel efficient and normally starts on one pull.

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Your forgetting the Handi's db rating is at 9 FEET not 23 FEET
Until you know Champions db rating at 9 feet your Apples to Apples comparison is bull.
Well here's a site that gives Honda ratings at 22 feet, 11-19/32 inches:

http://www.mayberrys.com/Honda/generators/Sound.aspx

It says the Handi is 57 to 65 db(A).
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it is 'apples to apples'
it is '3000w honda inverter TO 3000w champ inverter'

the db ratings is one of the varibles to be considered just like the weight and the price

go pick to apples off the same tree
examine them for weight , size , blemeshes etc.. there will be differences
I can explain it to you.
But I Can Not understand it for you !

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otrfun wrote:
Wow, just read this thread and it's obvious there's a not a lot of apples to apples comparisons going on.

Take a good look at the Champion 75531i, then take a good, hard look at the Honda EU3000iA "Handi". Notice any similiarities? Take a good look at the Champion's 75531i's specs, then take a good, hard look at the Honda EU3000iA "Handi"'s specs. Notice any similiarities? The specs are nearly identical.




They weigh the same, they look the same, gas consumption is nearly the same, and the NOISE LEVEL specs are nearly the same. The fact is, the Honda EU3000iA "Handi" (along with the Champion 75531i) is 6-7 db louder than its 3000 watt cousin, the 140 lb. Honda EU3000iS at full-load.

The 75531i's street price is about $900. The Honda "Handi" sells for $2299 at wisesales.com.

In an apples to apples comparison, the Champion 75531i comes out smelling more like a rose than one would think ๐Ÿ™‚



Your forgetting the Handi's db rating is at 9 FEET not 23 FEET
Until you know Champions db rating at 9 feet your Apples to Apples comparison is bull.


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otrfun
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Wow, just read this thread and it's obvious there's a not a lot of apples to apples comparisons going on.

Take a good look at the Champion 75531i, then take a good, hard look at the Honda EU3000iA "Handi". Notice any similiarities? Take a good look at the Champion's 75531i's specs, then take a good, hard look at the Honda EU3000iA "Handi"'s specs. Notice any similiarities? The specs are nearly identical.

They weigh the same, they look the same, gas consumption is nearly the same, and the NOISE LEVEL specs are nearly the same. The fact is, the Honda EU3000iA "Handi" (along with the Champion 75531i) is 6-7 db louder than its 3000 watt cousin, the 140 lb. Honda EU3000iS at full-load.

The 75531i's street price is about $900. The Honda "Handi" sells for $2299 at wisesales.com.

In an apples to apples comparison, the Champion 75531i comes out smelling more like a rose than one would think ๐Ÿ™‚