โSep-29-2017 08:07 AM
โOct-02-2017 04:12 AM
SoundGuy wrote:rjxj wrote:
You were probably on the low energy use side of things until you mentioned microwave.
It's interesting how often folks will come up with a shopping list of small draw items they want to power with battery / solar but then almost as an afterthought throw in a high draw appliance such as a microwave oven and think nothing of it. :R That tells me they haven't thought this through thoroughly, not realizing what a game changer any high draw device represents. Some solar aficiondos willing to throw their wallet at a project like this wouldn't agree but I see solar as most practical for those willing to actively manage their power consumption and restrict their usage to low draw devices.
โSep-30-2017 12:46 PM
rexlion wrote:pianotuna wrote:
X2 (except getting up early)
Just think how fun it is to have to break camp to go buy propane for a fixed tank! Then you get back and some numbskull has set up in your spot. (The campground host sided with the newcomer btw, in spite of the paid sticker on the post).
Sheesh! Did the host find you another campsite, since you'd already paid for the next night? I'd have raised holy heck and contacted whoever supervises that Bozo. Who ever imagined that one might have to inform a camp host whenever one leaves the CG to sightsee, run to town, or whatever?
โSep-30-2017 11:53 AM
pianotuna wrote:
Hi brulaz,
At 6000 watts of storage there may be four 12 volt jars--so I'd jump to 48 volts. My gut feeling is that there are more devices at 48 volts than at 24.
IIRC 2oldman went from 12 to 24, and found it less than pleasing so has jumped to 48 volts.
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โSep-30-2017 10:56 AM
โSep-30-2017 10:55 AM
โSep-30-2017 10:03 AM
brulaz wrote:pianotuna wrote:
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A run most things system (or everything but the roof air)
12 volts with 6 kwh of storage and 600 watts of high voltage panels combined with a 3000 watt hybrid inverter/charger
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If a person had >2000W loads, I would go up to 24V and perhaps specify AGM batts.
Under load the 24V will halve the %V drop of batteries, wire and connectors, and AGMs tend to drop less V than FLA in the first place.
Even with our 2000W inverter and <2000W loads, 24V has been very helpful.
โSep-30-2017 07:52 AM
pianotuna wrote:
Just think how fun it is to have to break camp to go buy propane for a fixed tank! Then you get back and some numbskull has set up in your spot. (The campground host sided with the newcomer btw, in spite of the paid sticker on the post).
โSep-30-2017 06:05 AM
pianotuna wrote:
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A run most things system (or everything but the roof air)
12 volts with 6 kwh of storage and 600 watts of high voltage panels combined with a 3000 watt hybrid inverter/charger
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โSep-29-2017 10:58 PM
โSep-29-2017 08:24 PM
โSep-29-2017 06:08 PM
โSep-29-2017 05:52 PM
BFL13 wrote:
OK ๐
My big thing is I get up early. Way too early to run the gen against campground gen hours. So I want my breakfast now! I want toast in a real toaster (high amp draw) not that horrible bread- burner on the stove- top that sets off the fire alarm and gets the dogs barking like mad, waking up the entire campground, who mostly seem to sleep in till lunch-time. ๐
Then I want coffee. More inverter draw with an electric kettle unless I boil water on the stove. It happens that if there is some solar available later that day, I will use the kettle instead of stove- propane, which I have to go downtown to a gas station that has propane to replace.
I have a big inverter and enough battery bank to run everything I want without waking everybody up at 0-dark thirty. Later that day, if needed, I can run the gen or if it is sunny, let that sunshine take care of things.
People here, who keep saying, "Leave that big stuff for your gen." must be among those who sleep in past when gen hours start.
โSep-29-2017 05:30 PM
โSep-29-2017 05:21 PM
rjxj wrote:
It isnt that the micro will consume a ton of amp hours, it's that it has a high current draw. Battery, inverter and cable sizes all go up when trying to power something like that.
This is a general statement that told him that his overall system requirements jumps when he powers a micro.
It isnt that the micro will consume a ton of amp hours
He wants solar
If he stays away from high draw items his set up costs are lower
RUN the micro off a generator
Always looking for another pissing contest.
โSep-29-2017 04:57 PM