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2oldman
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No, that's not how it works.

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BFL13
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Explorer II
I had a 1968 Dodge car with a 383 engine that needed leaded gas ISTR to help lubricate the pistons? Whatever it was all about. So then in the 70s the grateful government switched everyone to "unleaded" and my car was screwed.

So ISTR there was a bottle of stuff you could buy that you were supposed to add into the gas tank to make up for this no-lead gas.

As to octane numbers, ISTR ( I do a lot of that these days!) it was the famous flyer Charles Linbergh,(sp?) who disgraced himself in the early 40s by being a big fan of the Germans, and who sort of got the news in Dec 1941, and joined up, and then invented ???? 100 octane gasoline for airplanes???? So he sort of redeemed himself sort of.
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wnjj
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2oldman wrote:
MrWizard wrote:
as far as lead in gasoline, i can't remember it was there for protecting valve wear, or there to raise octane rating or both
It was to slow the rate (or maybe temperature) of ignition thereby decreasing engine knock. (pre-ignition). Problem was it was a scourge on our health.

Google probably knows.


It also protected the valves which have since been redesigned with harder surfaces.

2oldman
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Explorer II
MrWizard wrote:
as far as lead in gasoline, i can't remember it was there for protecting valve wear, or there to raise octane rating or both
It was to slow the rate (or maybe temperature) of ignition thereby decreasing engine knock. (pre-ignition). Problem was it was a scourge on our health.

Google probably knows.
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MrWizard
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it is an adv ploy, to get you to buy one of the higher grades

it's all unleaded, BUT they want to make it seem like the lowest grade/price is unleaded and the other (2) something else

as far as lead in gasoline, i can't remember it was there for protecting valve wear, or there to raise octane rating or both

i think even racing gas and aviation fuel no longer have lead, even though they have higher octane ratings, achieved by other means
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gbopp
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Mortimer Brewster wrote:

My theory is that all 3 grades of gas are leaded. I base this on the fact that the Uncola was still a cola. Thus it makes sense that Unleaded gas is still leaded.

You should run for public office. You're a natural politician. :B

2oldman
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fj12ryder wrote:
and it still doesn't really explain what you think is so exceptional.
The word unleaded is meaningless. It has nothing to do with grade of gasoline. Still not following?
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fj12ryder
Explorer III
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dougrainer wrote:
Ignorance. By some of the posters. In terms of inflation, Gasoline is CHEAPER now than in the past 100 years. IF your paycheck rose in relation to the level of the price of gas, you would be EXTREMLY POOR in 2017. No, I do not work for any Oil Company or have anything to do with the Oil companies. Just have done extensive research and reading on the price of oil and gasoline in the past 100 years as it relates to inflation. A Gallon of bottled water is upwards of $10, yet people BUY it all the time and never complain. Doug
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fj12ryder
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2oldman wrote:
fj12ryder wrote:
So "Unleaded" could indeed be a lower grade/octane. So I still don't see anything noticeable.
did you read my reply above?
Yes, and it still doesn't really explain what you think is so exceptional. I just passed a station on my way home that had the very same sign. ???
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Mortimer_Brewst
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2oldman wrote:
pnichols wrote:
In 2oldman's OP I take it that the station is selling leaded gas in a couple of grades.
Hehe.. yeah.

My theory is that all 3 grades of gas are leaded. I base this on the fact that the Uncola was still a cola. Thus it makes sense that Unleaded gas is still leaded.
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2oldman
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pnichols wrote:
In 2oldman's OP I take it that the station is selling leaded gas in a couple of grades.
Hehe.. yeah.
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pnichols
Explorer II
Explorer II
In 2oldman's OP I take it that the station is selling leaded gas in a couple of grades. :B

That brings up a point. I wonder how modern engines would react to good old leaded as? .... Better mileage, more power?
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Old-Biscuit
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It isn't about the prices

It isn't about inflation costs


IT is SIMPLY about the use of the word 'unleaded' for the lowest priced gas
ALL Gas at your standard regular service/fuel station is UNLEADED

Mid-grade and Premium are UNLEADED also.

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JaxDad
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SidecarFlip wrote:
The 64 dollar question is, of course.. When will fuel prices adversely impact the RV industry. Keep in mind that is what tanked it last time....


As long as thereโ€™s people more than happy to shell out an *EXTRA* $100k for a diesel theyโ€™re going to drive maybe 5,000 miles a year the price of gas will be meaningless.

Especially when you consider the price of gasoline in other countries.

I have family in Europe, regular is the equivalent of ~$5.80 / gallon.

dougrainer
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Ignorance. By some of the posters. In terms of inflation, Gasoline is CHEAPER now than in the past 100 years. IF your paycheck rose in relation to the level of the price of gas, you would be EXTREMLY POOR in 2017. No, I do not work for any Oil Company or have anything to do with the Oil companies. Just have done extensive research and reading on the price of oil and gasoline in the past 100 years as it relates to inflation. A Gallon of bottled water is upwards of $10, yet people BUY it all the time and never complain. Doug

wanderingaimles
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MEXICOWANDERER wrote:
With alcohol the grades should be labeled

IRREGULAR

MEDIOCRE

EXPENSIVE


You would think they had to mark them that way to comply with truth in advertising laws.