Ford 6.2L Upgrades

[badercubed]

So I got a new 2015 F250 6.2L. What performance upgrades, aside from supplementing the rear suspension, would you recommend?

Annnnnnnd GO!

[RWDIII]

I went from a 2006 5.4 4wd F150 to a 2015 F250 4wd 6.2.Both were Scabs

these are my observation after 5,000 miles,with over 100 miles on a 4x4 trip on the Bradshaw trail in the SoCal desert
I would not do anything to mess up the warranty
I saved about $5000 off of a HD150
The 6 speed is awesome,as is the electric locker
The 6.2 gets about 1Mpg less than the 5.4
Once you get going the power is better
Once you are in 4wd the Traction control is turned off
This comparison Is with the same camper
I have 400mi range with camper@ 12.3mpg
I have over500 mi range Without @ 15.5

[_DJ_1]

Gdetrailer wrote:

~DJ~ wrote:

Gdetrailer wrote:

~DJ~ wrote:
I hear time and time again "I put a cold air intake on my truck and noticed zero difference".

Of course you didn't!! The computer wasn't calling for more air. Even a less restrictive exhaust won't help. But add a tuner to the mix and all 3 work together putting a big grin on your face!!

6.2 does not "need" ANY "mods", it has an intake/filter which can easily flow MORE than that engine will ever be able to process.

The exhaust system is ALSO plenty large enough to handle the what the engine can put out and more..

It is a well designed setup that only the over the top gear heads can't believe that no mods are needed.

Yes, it is not a 6.7 diesel and yes, it is not turbo charged like a Eco Boost but it DOESN'T COST AS MUCH TO BUY UPFRONT as either of those other two.

But it DOES already have plenty of grunt, that grunt is UNDER control via the torque management system and other than being heavy handed in the control department it tows like a dream ONCE you "learn" how it really works..

I have towed as much as 9K with mine and you still can't wipe the smile off my face.

Best part of all is it cost me nearly $10,000 LESS than a 6.7 and $8,000 less than a F150 Eco boost..

It's intake/exhaust is capable of flowing more air than the COMPUTER can call for!! Not so when you add the tuner.

No, the 6.2 doesn't NEED any mods but what does that have to do with WANT? :B

Hmm.. interesting, so you are saying a programmer WILL be able to RAISE the MAX RPM of the ENGINE OVER THE RED LINE?

I call BS on that..

The STOCK exhaust pipe/muffler on my 6.2 is 3.5" diameter, the air intake is about 4". The air flow for that size pretty well ABOVE ALL RPMS BELOW RED LINE.

Programmers do not increase the redline RPMs, they simply play with the fuel trim, fuel mapping, alter the torque management and play with shift points. You might see a small increase in HP but it will COST YOU IN GAS MILEAGE AND WARRANTY to do so..

If you have an extra $10K-$20K in your back pocket that you can afford to repair or rebuild your engine go right ahead.. Ford won't touch under warranty it once you add a programmer..

You're absolute correct to call BS on that. That is not what I am saying. A tuner will not take you over red line but can get you there faster, yes, by changing factory settings. Gas tuners don't have the amount of improvement a diesel tuner has but there is still improvement proven on dynos again and again.

You're also correct on rolling the dice with your warranty. If your AC or heater quits you may be OK. Any drive train issues and you're going to pay for that yourself.

I am not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying they do work.

My 3 yr/36K warranty is gone. My 5 yr/60K warranty was voided when I lifted it.

It is in the shop this week trading 373 gears for 430. With my 35" tires should put me close to 410. If I am happy with this change I will add a tuner and cold air intake to my cat back. If not, well, Rousch makes a darn fine supercharger!!! 🙂

[spud1957]

Powerdude wrote:

Gdetrailer wrote:


Best part of all is it cost me nearly $10,000 LESS than a 6.7 and $8,000 less than a F150 Eco boost..

I was playing around with the Build-to-order, and that is definitely right.

The new F150 is aluminum, and guess what? You PAY, PAY and PAY for all the materials and engineering that went into that. Is it really needed?
Maybe, but do I need it? Hardly, so why should I pay for something I don't need? I can buy a Coke can if I need aluminum.

An XLT F250 with a 6.2 L is about 2-3k cheaper than an equivalently optioned XLT with Ecoboost, in crew-cab 4x4 configuration.

It's always good to have choices.

Funny when you read from those poo pooing on an aluminum truck. All indications are GM is and Ram is probably going to be aluminum by 2017. Hope the naysayers enjoy the flavor of crow.

Back to the OP. Buying a new truck and tuning it would not be the best use of your money. Wait till you get it and drive it to really understand how it performs. You'll be surprised.

Not sure if you have but you should also visit/join www.ford-trucks.com. Great members and very useful info sharing.

[Powerdude]

Gdetrailer wrote:


Best part of all is it cost me nearly $10,000 LESS than a 6.7 and $8,000 less than a F150 Eco boost..

I was playing around with the Build-to-order, and that is definitely right.

The new F150 is aluminum, and guess what? You PAY, PAY and PAY for all the materials and engineering that went into that. Is it really needed?
Maybe, but do I need it? Hardly, so why should I pay for something I don't need? I can buy a Coke can if I need aluminum.

An XLT F250 with a 6.2 L is about 2-3k cheaper than an equivalently optioned XLT with Ecoboost, in crew-cab 4x4 configuration.

It's always good to have choices.

[Weldon]

Too many nay sayers who have not experienced the situation upon which you requested. Warranty would certainly be an issue.

[Gdetrailer]

~DJ~ wrote:

Gdetrailer wrote:

~DJ~ wrote:
I hear time and time again "I put a cold air intake on my truck and noticed zero difference".

Of course you didn't!! The computer wasn't calling for more air. Even a less restrictive exhaust won't help. But add a tuner to the mix and all 3 work together putting a big grin on your face!!

6.2 does not "need" ANY "mods", it has an intake/filter which can easily flow MORE than that engine will ever be able to process.

The exhaust system is ALSO plenty large enough to handle the what the engine can put out and more..

It is a well designed setup that only the over the top gear heads can't believe that no mods are needed.

Yes, it is not a 6.7 diesel and yes, it is not turbo charged like a Eco Boost but it DOESN'T COST AS MUCH TO BUY UPFRONT as either of those other two.

But it DOES already have plenty of grunt, that grunt is UNDER control via the torque management system and other than being heavy handed in the control department it tows like a dream ONCE you "learn" how it really works..

I have towed as much as 9K with mine and you still can't wipe the smile off my face.

Best part of all is it cost me nearly $10,000 LESS than a 6.7 and $8,000 less than a F150 Eco boost..

It's intake/exhaust is capable of flowing more air than the COMPUTER can call for!! Not so when you add the tuner.

No, the 6.2 doesn't NEED any mods but what does that have to do with WANT? :B

Hmm.. interesting, so you are saying a programmer WILL be able to RAISE the MAX RPM of the ENGINE OVER THE RED LINE?

I call BS on that..

The STOCK exhaust pipe/muffler on my 6.2 is 3.5" diameter, the air intake is about 4". The air flow for that size pretty well ABOVE ALL RPMS BELOW RED LINE.

Programmers do not increase the redline RPMs, they simply play with the fuel trim, fuel mapping, alter the torque management and play with shift points. You might see a small increase in HP but it will COST YOU IN GAS MILEAGE AND WARRANTY to do so..

If you have an extra $10K-$20K in your back pocket that you can afford to repair or rebuild your engine go right ahead.. Ford won't touch under warranty it once you add a programmer..

[_DJ_1]

Gdetrailer wrote:

~DJ~ wrote:
I hear time and time again "I put a cold air intake on my truck and noticed zero difference".

Of course you didn't!! The computer wasn't calling for more air. Even a less restrictive exhaust won't help. But add a tuner to the mix and all 3 work together putting a big grin on your face!!

6.2 does not "need" ANY "mods", it has an intake/filter which can easily flow MORE than that engine will ever be able to process.

The exhaust system is ALSO plenty large enough to handle the what the engine can put out and more..

It is a well designed setup that only the over the top gear heads can't believe that no mods are needed.

Yes, it is not a 6.7 diesel and yes, it is not turbo charged like a Eco Boost but it DOESN'T COST AS MUCH TO BUY UPFRONT as either of those other two.

But it DOES already have plenty of grunt, that grunt is UNDER control via the torque management system and other than being heavy handed in the control department it tows like a dream ONCE you "learn" how it really works..

I have towed as much as 9K with mine and you still can't wipe the smile off my face.

Best part of all is it cost me nearly $10,000 LESS than a 6.7 and $8,000 less than a F150 Eco boost..

It's intake/exhaust is capable of flowing more air than the COMPUTER can call for!! Not so when you add the tuner.

No, the 6.2 doesn't NEED any mods but what does that have to do with WANT? :B

[Gdetrailer]

~DJ~ wrote:
I hear time and time again "I put a cold air intake on my truck and noticed zero difference".

Of course you didn't!! The computer wasn't calling for more air. Even a less restrictive exhaust won't help. But add a tuner to the mix and all 3 work together putting a big grin on your face!!

6.2 does not "need" ANY "mods", it has an intake/filter which can easily flow MORE than that engine will ever be able to process.

The exhaust system is ALSO plenty large enough to handle the what the engine can put out and more..

It is a well designed setup that only the over the top gear heads can't believe that no mods are needed.

Yes, it is not a 6.7 diesel and yes, it is not turbo charged like a Eco Boost but it DOESN'T COST AS MUCH TO BUY UPFRONT as either of those other two.

But it DOES already have plenty of grunt, that grunt is UNDER control via the torque management system and other than being heavy handed in the control department it tows like a dream ONCE you "learn" how it really works..

I have towed as much as 9K with mine and you still can't wipe the smile off my face.

Best part of all is it cost me nearly $10,000 LESS than a 6.7 and $8,000 less than a F150 Eco boost..

[_DJ_1]

I hear time and time again "I put a cold air intake on my truck and noticed zero difference".

Of course you didn't!! The computer wasn't calling for more air. Even a less restrictive exhaust won't help. But add a tuner to the mix and all 3 work together putting a big grin on your face!!

[badercubed]

Thanks for the thoughts. I didn't know if going from an Ecoboost I'd miss the get up and go during everyday driving. After a week, I really haven't.

[Gdetrailer]

Grit dog wrote:

Gdetrailer wrote:

badercubed wrote:
So I got a new 2015 F250 6.2L. What performance upgrades, aside from supplementing the rear suspension, would you recommend?

Annnnnnnd GO!

Nothing.

That 6.2 is a real puller without the need to "upgrade" it.

You DO need to get used to a few things..

This engine has a pretty heavy handed "torque management" system, the throttle is restricted to 40% or less under 2K RPM but once you get past 2K RPM watch out, it will really start going fast.

Due to the torque management the initial take off feels sluggish and folks have called it a "dog" for that but it really isn't once you get used to the feel and realize that this is done so you don't spin tires and lose traction along the way.

Load up and go, spend you money camping instead of programmers, exhaust pipes and intake mods that are not needed!

Very interesting.
I'm on my 2nd 6.2 F250 and just thought they were both super pooches until they wound up.

Thats why some folks "opt" for a "programmer" which removes the throttle restriction..

But keep in mind there is a balance between the torque management AND the traction assist.. If you remove the torque management you may as well remove the traction assist since the traction assist is also fighting to keep your wheels from breaking traction.

I have a love/hate thing with the traction assist.. It is nice when you hit a icy patch on the road.. But get into a foot of snow and it throttles back the engine WHEN you NEED it to spin the wheels.. Then you have to remember to reach over and disable the traction assist..

The 6.2 is a well designed very powerful engine that has a lot of deep down grunt that really pulls well.. Wasting money on programmers and any other aftermarket performance parts is the same as putting your money into the campfire..

A worthy upgrade would be changing out the F250 spacer blocks on the rear and putting in F350 spacers.. F250 uses 2" spacers and F350 uses 4" spacers.. This fixes the rear end sag under load..

Another worthy upgrade would be to add in the over load springs, somehow I missed that when I ordered but my previous trucks before had the overloads.. They are nice when you are riding empty the ride is not as harsh and when you add a load the overloads make contact and help handle the heavy load.

But I would highly recommend avoiding wasting money on expensive air intake do dads, exhaust systems or even programmers if you value ever getting ANY warranty done.. Ford is no longer a pushover and will stand their ground is they determine that YOU have messed with the engine..

Heck, I had one heck of a time to get a simple repair done to the rear jumper seat under warranty! The upholstery on the jump seat cover started coming apart at the stitching.. No tears at all.. The dealer had to take pictures and submit those to to Ford, then Ford refused to replace the seat cover but was willing to pay the dealers cost to have a local upholstery shop resew the seat cover!

Best thing to do is drive it and enjoy it!

[shepstone]

Just yesterday I was in stop n go traffic on the 401 in Toronto & needed to get into the next lane , slowly rolling along I saw an opening & nailed it & it spun the tires while it was still rolling . While de-rated from the Raptor on paper, I dont think they have any less "real" power. With the power management noted by Gdetrailer sometimes the truck feels slow on part throttle and other times like a rocket at more throttle it very much depends on how its driven beforhand. I know that construction related companies appreciate the fact that it dosent have jackrabbit takeoffs so that the equipment and materials dont end up slamming into the tailgate.

[Grit_dog]

Gdetrailer wrote:

badercubed wrote:
So I got a new 2015 F250 6.2L. What performance upgrades, aside from supplementing the rear suspension, would you recommend?

Annnnnnnd GO!

Nothing.

That 6.2 is a real puller without the need to "upgrade" it.

You DO need to get used to a few things..

This engine has a pretty heavy handed "torque management" system, the throttle is restricted to 40% or less under 2K RPM but once you get past 2K RPM watch out, it will really start going fast.

Due to the torque management the initial take off feels sluggish and folks have called it a "dog" for that but it really isn't once you get used to the feel and realize that this is done so you don't spin tires and lose traction along the way.

Load up and go, spend you money camping instead of programmers, exhaust pipes and intake mods that are not needed!

Very interesting.
I'm on my 2nd 6.2 F250 and just thought they were both super pooches until they wound up.

[SuperBooty]

I own a 2015 F250 6.2L; If this is true the throttle is restricted to 40% till 2k rpm explains why it feels boggy.  After 2k feels like a rocket ship is kinda of annoying.  Is there any way to fix the torque management to give more power under 2k rpm?   I don't need more power just would like a little bit more bottom end torque to be around 1,200-1,700 RPM's as most of my use is towing in town at 20-35mph.  Thanks for any info you may have.