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1968 Travel Queen Resto Mod - 7. Finishes & Finishing

Dave_Pete
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Explorer II
I've reached a point in our Resto-Mod where it has come time to start applying finishes. On new wood these will be in the form of primer and various paints, perhaps some stains - and poly, lots of poly. On old wood, particularly the interior birch paneling, it will consist of stains and once again, lots of poly. I'll talk about poly and color schemes in a minute.

But this thread is about more than those things mentioned above. All the little elements of completing this camper that don't fit elsewhere into logical categories will end up here. In fact, the very last posts for the entire build will probably be toward the end of this thread, even though there will, of necessity, come several more parts after this Part 7.

Here's a complete list.

1968 Travel Queen Resto Mod - 1. Acquisition & Evaluation
1968 Travel Queen Resto Mod - 2. Dismantling and Salvage
1968 Travel Queen Resto Mod - 3. Structure and New Wood
1968 Travel Queen Resto Mod - 4. Bathroom Remodel
1968 Travel Queen Resto Mod - 5. Propane
1968 Travel Queen Resto Mod - 6. Jacks & Tiedowns
1968 Travel Queen Resto Mod - 7. Finishes & Finishing
1968 Travel Queen Resto Mod - 8. Fresh Water
1968 Travel Queen Resto Mod - 9. Electrical (AC/DC)
1968 Travel Queen Resto Mod - 10. Galley & Greatroom
1968 Travel Queen Resto Mod - 11. Night Chamber
1968 Travel Queen Resto Mod - 12. Waste Water
1968 Travel Queen Resto Mod - 13. Exterior, Skin & Openings
1968 Travel Queen Resto Mod - 14. Viewer Perceptions

By poly, I mean polyurethane. My wife and I have a love affair with polyurethane.

Back in the mid-nineties we installed our first hardwood floor in our home, a combo dining/entry room that has since become our front door foyer. We used unfinished 3/4" red oak boards. What a learning experience. As novices's we didn't realize the rented floor sander was broken, we just thought it was inadequate, so most of the sanding on that floor was done on my knees with a belt sander! And it turned out beautiful, but OMG! After staining we put down a floor grade (thick) high-gloss polyurethane, and we've never looked back!

We still use flat or eggshell finish on ceilings, and will entertain combinations of satin, or more likely semi-gloss on walls but EVERYTHING else gets gloss or high gloss. And we've done lots of custom/craftsmen woodwork in our homes (I say homes because we flipped one in Fairbanks when we had to move there for three years), and ALL those wood stained surfaces get high-gloss poly!

We've always been "earth-tones" kind of people and for years we kind of went along with the crowd that basically stated home walls should be pretty much neutral and of lighter colors. Meanwhile, many in younger generations were coming in with black and rich primary colors for entire rooms and as a traditionalist I just kind of shook my head.

Then we did a little more of something on the house exterior and we liked it. Then we moved to Alaska and DW had her OWN epiphany on color palette. I was at work so she just did it while I wasn't there and I had no choice (just kidding - she involved me). But like always, her interior decorating was right on the money; she really has an eye.

In essence we moved into darker, richer colors. We don't do white. Cream or off-whites are okay, but we avoid white. We don't do black, but many of our darker color choices are going to look black at first glance. We use lots of copper, expresso, reddish tinged golden stains, all along with the original earth tones, but which have become somewhat darker and richer themselves. In fact, we liked the end results so much that upon our return to Wyoming we changed up our long-term home to much the same colors as we had in Fairbanks. So that's where we're also going in the camper!

I know, I know, the traditionalists are going to say, "You have to keep the colors light in the camper, otherwise it will feel smaller, closed in!" Perhaps, but we'll see won't we. ๐Ÿ˜‰
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Victory402
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It's going to look awesome. I'm glad your taking the time to do it right. Good job man!

Dave_Pete
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Explorer II
Yes ticki2, staining over both.

The areas that still have original finish (shellac I think) don't take in as much stain as the bare wood areas. It's pretty close though. And I could have used paint stripper to remove all finish, but chose not to do so, mostly because of the increase to time and effort. Plus sometimes paint remover is so messy, I just don't enjoy the work as much ๐Ÿ™‚

Now the wood filler - it's kind of stark. Comes off lighter than the surrounding wood, so repairs can jump out at you! But at least a past injury is now flush, and the repairs kind of show you to the story the injury might tell. The lighter the story on a dark background the easier it is to read! But I guess that's all called patina, and we kind of want to show that off too.

The welting is actually cream color, and so it's a nice light color contrast to any darker colors used, including how our treatment of the paneling will show it darker than was original, although our original wasn't the whitish stain that some Travel Queens are. And the welting is the same color as the plastic framing around each door and drawer front. There's that overall light contrast to our darker color choices.

We're even discussing a buckskin color fake leather microfiber for for cushions and covers. That would add more light colors for contrast. So we'll see. As I looked at the stained wood again it seems a bit lighter than I was thinking at first. And that would be nice. But our poly finish is going to add some red tinge as it's a maple thinned stain added to poly.

And yes, nice to be moving forward now.

ticki2
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Looking good , nice to be going in the forward direction . Are you staining over the old finish and repairs ? How are you dealing with the white welting ?
'68 Avion C-11
'02 GMC DRW D/A flatbed

Dave_Pete
Explorer II
Explorer II
I had been sanding for a few days, among other tasks, but everyday various other things came up and took my attentions away from continuous work, so it was good to finally get the sanding completed and to wipe down everything and get the shop swept up. Here are a few shots of the sanded and wiped down woodwork, some with additional explanations at their tops.



That piece of wall on the left is range/refer shared wall and the surface you are seeing will receive some sort of back-splash material.




This shot shows the "back-splash" walls more clearly. The camper left side side-wall below the upper cabinet will only be stained around the window area. The back-splash begins not far to the right of the window opening.


The paneling below the counter-top level is in pretty good condition. We haven't decided yet whether to paint it primer white for the "easier to see" under cabinet locations like we are doing in cabinet and utility areas closer to the floor, or to finish it in stain and poly just like will be done in the upper, eye-level cabinets. But we are leaning toward the latter. I'll decide once we get the left wing assembly down, and that's not until after we get the right-side wing assembly in place, as well as the back wall.




After wipe down and shop cleanup I broke open the stain. Here's what I used. We've used this color in so many places around the home. Of course it depends on what type of wood, and its grain, for how dark it will be. Last summer we had tried out about five different choices on some scrap from the donor camper and had chosen this color. We had already stained two other interior cabinet pieces (currently removed and stored) as well as the refrigerator face wall. That refer wall incidentally, will require more work as the fridge cutout will change it somewhat.


And here are the "stained wood" results.













I applied the stain with a rag and it was all hand rubbed. I spent several hours "hand rubbing Lil' Queeny in the garage", and I enjoyed the process so greatly that after a while I began to feel a little bit of guilt. At lunch I promised DW a soothing body massage real soon.

Led_67
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That is looking very nice

Dave_Pete
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Explorer II
Finishing work today consisted of removing more interior trim, examination of interior for repair areas such as: setting staples, pulling improperly seated nails and "mistake" staples, filling holes, clean-up of splintered edges on window and vent openings, sanding with everything from steel-wool to sand paper in various grits, to use of an orbital power sander.

I'm doing all the interior from the front wall of the box backward. Once I get the front wall out I'll continue from there forward.

The ceiling is only needing a 0000 steel-wool buffing. Much of the rest of the walls surfaces are asking for at least a 100 grit and then a 220. Hand sanding is tedious, but there's nothing like the "feel" of it in your hand to give perhaps a best result.

Where I've used wood filler there is a greater need for the orbital, and there's a risk of taking down too much veneer (which I've accidentally discovered is terribly easy in a couple of places which I will not point out).

This process will take a few days, especially since I'll be taking Saturday off to help the kids hang sheetrock. But we'll get the back 2/3's of the camper interior surfaces ready to receive the back and side wall assemblies.

Here are some pictures to show the process and the progress.









































This photo shows some test stain applied...








Dave_Pete
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Explorer II
One of our first finishes to go on was the white - you know, the white we said we don't do?

This white is primer and it is pretty intense! It's a "zero" something or other and is supposed to be a stain and odor blocker like Kilz. DW bought it for some other project we haven't yet gotten to and we still had a full gallon. It is water-base but it's not at all like these latex house paints that if they dry on your plastic roller pan you can still get it wet and peel it all off. Oh no, this stuff seems to now be a permanent part of my pan, not to mention my fingers - in spots. It's a really tough sticking primer.

I covered all surfaces of both wing assemblies, the bathroom basement surfaces (the under shower pan compartment), the interior surface of the left rear wall panel, and the plywood edges of both back wall panels. Initially I wanted to leave the bathroom walls unfinished for application of another substance, but I am now considering priming those surfaces as well because of the terrific adhesion of this primer over the sanded and smoothed original surfaces of most of the bathroom wall.













Just prior to priming I had been looking over the interior paneling, experimenting with some sanding and getting together a plan for finishing the woodwork. Part of the reason for that now is to prepare the partially damaged panel edges to receive the back wall panels, and the other edges to receive the wing assemblies, etc. Another reason for the plan on the interior wood finishing is to perhaps DO IT before closing up the camper. Each of these decisions delays the assembly process, but I'm starting to feel it will greatly increase the completion process once assembly DOES begin to take place.

The next few days will be work on the actual interior woodwork and panels!

Dave_Pete
Explorer II
Explorer II
67avion - What is your countertop? Looks interestingly like something we are considering.

Wagonqueen - your disco ball comment elicited quite a laugh out of DW. Our original accents (stove/oven color, upholstered band across bed, plexiglass window between cabover and dinette) are also the avocado/60s-70s green. I want to try and paint the back side of the original faux woodgrain refrigerator panel an avocado green to match the range. Going to try some appliance enamel to attempt to get that hard smooth shiny type finish.

Dave_Pete
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Oh yeah! Great colors. And thanks for the validation. The deep colors are very nice.

Wagonqueen_Truc
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We did the "cherry" (dark) with all the wood, so we decided "lite" gray and white to keep things lightened up.(and normally I don't do white) It seemed to fit the color scheme I was going for. More of a "MOD" with hints of 70's retro (green). Still haven't got all my hints hung yet... but there is plenty of time for decorating. Just have to find which corner I will place the disco ball I just got before it breaks. Can't wait to see your choices. Love when a good vintage renovation comes together.

67avion
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Dave Pete wrote:
I know, I know, the traditionalists are going to say, "You have to keep the colors light in the camper, otherwise it will feel smaller, closed in!" Perhaps, but we'll see won't we


Whelp, I don't think I'm a "traditionalist" nor do I belong to the vintage police. But, I do love the old fashioned look of the wooden interiors. We sure used a lot of poly and wood tones in our Avion.