2015 Ford V-6 Ecoboost vs V8

[mfoster711]

http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/specifications/towing/

Am I reading this correct? It appears the 2015 Ford F-150 with a 3.5L ecoboost engine has more towing capacity that the same vehicle with a V-8 engine.

Looking at a 2015 SuperCrew with 3.5L it has a GCWR of 16100 where as the same vehicle with a V-8 has only a 14200 GCWR. Why is that?

I am planning to buy a F-150 soon to replace my 2007 F-250 and I need to make sure it can still handle my camper. I have an Outback Terrain 250TRS that has 5483lbs empty weight and 2017lbs Carrying Capacity. Roughly 7500lbs total weight if fully loaded.

[ugh]

Samsonsworld wrote:

goducks10 wrote:

Samsonsworld wrote:
You mean no trouble? I tow over 9k and have no trouble maintaining 65mph up hill and bucking winds.

They have hills in Texas? Come on out to Oregon. I think my driveway is steeper than the hills in Texas. 🙂

:h

Try and park your camper on that drive way.

[Samsonsworld]

goducks10 wrote:

Samsonsworld wrote:
You mean no trouble? I tow over 9k and have no trouble maintaining 65mph up hill and bucking winds.

They have hills in Texas? Come on out to Oregon. I think my driveway is steeper than the hills in Texas. 🙂

:h

[goducks10]

Samsonsworld wrote:
You mean no trouble? I tow over 9k and have no trouble maintaining 65mph up hill and bucking winds.

They have hills in Texas? Come on out to Oregon. I think my driveway is steeper than the hills in Texas. 🙂

[Samsonsworld]

You mean no trouble? I tow over 9k and have no trouble maintaining 65mph up hill and bucking winds.

[CantCampEnuf]

FishOnOne wrote:
I was driving back from the deer camp this afternoon and noticed a conventional camper weaving in and out of the fast lane passing cars and hauling balls. I thought this had to be a diesel towing this camping pulling this speed. Once I passed this camper at 80mph is when I noticed it was a F150 EcoBoost pulling this camper (28-30ft) at the speed limit of 75mph.

Not sure how hard he was pressing the go pedal, but I sure was impressed.

Not pressing hard.... i have trouble keeping mine at 65 which is where I like to tow... and I am pulling 9k.

[spoon059]

fla-gypsy wrote:
a 3/4 truck designed to do the same job and way more stable doing it.

No. He is saying that the Ecoboost with max tow costs as much as a 3/4 ton truck. He then says that the 3/4 ton truck was designed to do the same job and was way more stable.

[kellertx5er]

fla-gypsy wrote:
Get the new F-150 with the EB 3.5, heavy payload and max towing package and you will be surprised at just how capable some of these newer properly equipped "1/2 ton" trucks are. Of course they cost as much as a 3/4 truck designed to do the same job and way more stable doing it.

Are you trying to tell us that an F150 with EB engine would be more stable than a 3/4 ton pulling a given trailer? Your words can be interpreted a couple of ways.

[Tystevens]

I love towing with my Ecoboost. The difference between the little V6 EB and my GM 5.3 when towing is night and day. Really, there isn't another 1/2 ton drivetrain I would rather tow with. No, it isn't a 3/4 ton diesel. I've had one of those, too, and for my needs, the F150 EB does the job just as well, with fewer trade offs when I'm not towing anything (which is 90% of the time).

Personally, I think an appropriately optioned F150 Ecoboost would be a pretty good match for the OP's trailer and stated needs.

[gocamping14]

I have the eb 3.5 and it pulls great. my camper wt. 5800 dry, lots of power and the tow haul trans. feature is very nice...............ss

[thomasmnile]

larry barnhart wrote:


what I would call that driver would be dumb ass.

chevman

The truck's doin' fine but the 'limiting factor' might be the tires on the trailer..............or not. :B

[IdaD]

jerem0621 wrote:
One other positive of a heavy half with the ecoboost is forced induction. To get forced induction on a 3/4 ton truck you have to get a Diesel.

Now, is a Diesel 3/4 ton truck more expensive than an Ecoboost with the max payload? Maybe.. Depends on how they are optioned. Right now our local Ram dealership has 2500 Ram Tradesmen crew cabs with the 6.7 in the low $40k range. I have seen a lot of loaded up 2015 F150's selling for 50k plus.

Just wanted to mention that because the disparity in price for the class of truck isn't really that much.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

It really isn't much of a disparity. I paid $39 for the truck in my sig last month. That still seems like a lot for a new truck to me but I'd have a hard time getting an F150 with max tow and HD payload for any less. And I got a lot more truck out if the deal.

[brulaz]

All the 2015 F150s are still expensive. But that'll change with time.

Right now the best discounts are on the 2015 SuperDuties, but when the new models with the Al cab comes out, they will have less discounts.

Timing is important when comparing prices.

[jerem0621]

One other positive of a heavy half with the ecoboost is forced induction. To get forced induction on a 3/4 ton truck you have to get a Diesel.

Now, is a Diesel 3/4 ton truck more expensive than an Ecoboost with the max payload? Maybe.. Depends on how they are optioned. Right now our local Ram dealership has 2500 Ram Tradesmen crew cabs with the 6.7 in the low $40k range. I have seen a lot of loaded up 2015 F150's selling for 50k plus.

Just wanted to mention that because the disparity in price for the class of truck isn't really that much.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

[IdaD]

http://www.tfltruck.com/2014/10/2014-ram-2500-hd-6-4l-hemi-0-60-and-60-0-test-video/

This test of a hemi 2500 shows comparable to better 60-0 distance. My hunch is generally a lighter half ton will brake better, but it isn't a substantial difference. i don't know if the 6.4 uses vacuum or hydroboost.

[carringb]

IdaD wrote:

I don't know that braking performance is significantly better, or any better for that matter.

1/2-tons stop shorter, simply because nearly all new vehicles are traction limited, have approximately the same tire contact patch on the road, and 1/2-tons have less mass to decelerate. Tire friction coefficients are not linear, so adding weight does not give a corresponding increase in traction.

(Note: only empty results are relevant because loaded tests were done differently)