2015 Ram Cummins power increase

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[FishOnOne]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

rhagfo wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

B.O. Plenty wrote:
It's too bad that great Cummins engine comes wrapped in a Dodge. At 90 plus thousand miles and after a lot of maintenance my Dodge is falling apart around the Cummins and this is a 2010 "New" body style.

B.O.

What were/are the problems? Did RAM fix them?

98 RAM bought because of the Cummins figured the truck would fall apart, 400K and still rock solid.

50k on 2011 Dually no issues except crappy General POS tires.

Ditto,
Our 2001 2500 with 274,000 miles is still solid. Drives great with normal maintance.
To the what if the trailer brakes frail? Well new Cummins have the best EB of the big three, I seldom use my service brakes during normal towing,
Really hate to tell you but a semi loaded to 105,000# the two or three axle brakes are not going to much good either!!!

Check the trailer brakes before you leave. If they die I have an awesome EB and service brakes!

Wow... Check the Goat Kool-Aid too before you leave.

I got to say the 05 farm/ranch truck we had (Notice past tense) was falling apart too. The 4x4 not engaging and the cracked manifold was the last straw.

[Cummins12V98]

rhagfo wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

B.O. Plenty wrote:
It's too bad that great Cummins engine comes wrapped in a Dodge. At 90 plus thousand miles and after a lot of maintenance my Dodge is falling apart around the Cummins and this is a 2010 "New" body style.

B.O.

What were/are the problems? Did RAM fix them?

98 RAM bought because of the Cummins figured the truck would fall apart, 400K and still rock solid.

50k on 2011 Dually no issues except crappy General POS tires.

Ditto,
Our 2001 2500 with 274,000 miles is still solid. Drives great with normal maintance.
To the what if the trailer brakes frail? Well new Cummins have the best EB of the big three, I seldom use my service brakes during normal towing,
Really hate to tell you but a semi loaded to 105,000# the two or three axle brakes are not going to much good either!!!

Check the trailer brakes before you leave. If they die I have an awesome EB and service brakes!

[rhagfo]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

B.O. Plenty wrote:
It's too bad that great Cummins engine comes wrapped in a Dodge. At 90 plus thousand miles and after a lot of maintenance my Dodge is falling apart around the Cummins and this is a 2010 "New" body style.

B.O.

What were/are the problems? Did RAM fix them?

98 RAM bought because of the Cummins figured the truck would fall apart, 400K and still rock solid.

50k on 2011 Dually no issues except crappy General POS tires.

Ditto,
Our 2001 2500 with 274,000 miles is still solid. Drives great with normal maintance.
To the what if the trailer brakes frail? Well new Cummins have the best EB of the big three, I seldom use my service brakes during normal towing,
Really hate to tell you but a semi loaded to 105,000# the two or three axle brakes are not going to much good either!!!

[B_O__Plenty]

wilber1 wrote:

Golden_HVAC wrote:
The inline 6 will not be able to beat the horsepower of a V8 because the cylinders are larger diameter, and stroke is longer. So the V8 is always able to turn more RPM's and make more horsepower, because HP is torque X RPM.

So even a slightly smaller torque figure X 1,000 more RPM = a lot more horsepower!

That said, the Ford 7.3 Powerstoke in the hands of the right tuner, it can make 1,000 foot pounds of torque, and well into the 500 HP range, well above what the transmission can handle!

Sure Ram can claim it is "Safe" to tow a combined 37,000 GCVWR, but what happens when the brakes fail on the towed trailer? Can it have any chance of stopping such a load on a slight downgrade? What happens when you get off the freeway and find that the trailer wiring harness fell out of it's plug? Or the fuse for the electric brakes tripped, and you should have some braking in a few seconds when it resets?

That is to much of a chance for me. . .

Fred.

I agree the higher reving V8 has more peak HP potential but the six's larger bore and longer stroke will make for more low RPM torque and HP. There are pros and cons to both.

What happens if the trailer brakes fail when towing near GCWR? Not a good thing with any truck. A manufacturer may say you can tow X and they are probably right but what you decide to tow is entirely on you. Maybe it's intended for believers in the 80% rule. I don't.

I have yet to see the mythical "80% Rule" written anywhere by anyone of any authority. Just a lot of bull in my opinion..

B.O.

[B_O__Plenty]

Gemstone wrote:
"Tailpipe rotting off at muffler"... BO....getting outta the rust belt might fix that. 217K on my '05 and still the original exhaust system.

Regards
Gemstone

My truck has spent every Winter either in Texas or Arizona. Maybe Chrysler should stop using that cheap plain steel exhaust pipe. No rust to be found anywhere under my truck except the exhaust.

B.O.

[wilber1]

Golden_HVAC wrote:
The inline 6 will not be able to beat the horsepower of a V8 because the cylinders are larger diameter, and stroke is longer. So the V8 is always able to turn more RPM's and make more horsepower, because HP is torque X RPM.

So even a slightly smaller torque figure X 1,000 more RPM = a lot more horsepower!

That said, the Ford 7.3 Powerstoke in the hands of the right tuner, it can make 1,000 foot pounds of torque, and well into the 500 HP range, well above what the transmission can handle!

Sure Ram can claim it is "Safe" to tow a combined 37,000 GCVWR, but what happens when the brakes fail on the towed trailer? Can it have any chance of stopping such a load on a slight downgrade? What happens when you get off the freeway and find that the trailer wiring harness fell out of it's plug? Or the fuse for the electric brakes tripped, and you should have some braking in a few seconds when it resets?

That is to much of a chance for me. . .

Fred.

I agree the higher reving V8 has more peak HP potential but the six's larger bore and longer stroke will make for more low RPM torque and HP. There are pros and cons to both.

What happens if the trailer brakes fail when towing near GCWR? Not a good thing with any truck. A manufacturer may say you can tow X and they are probably right but what you decide to tow is entirely on you. Maybe it's intended for believers in the 80% rule. I don't.

[Gemstone]

"the Ford 7.3 Powerstoke in the hands of the right tuner, it can make 1,000 foot pounds of torque, and well into the 500 HP range"

With an off the shelf tuner, you could take the new Cummins up to 200 more pounds of torque and add 135 HP....right in line with the Ford PS. Give 'em a couple of months to engineer for the 2015.

Regards
Gemstone

[Gemstone]

"Tailpipe rotting off at muffler"... BO....getting outta the rust belt might fix that. 217K on my '05 and still the original exhaust system.

Regards
Gemstone

[B_O__Plenty]

Cummins12V98 wrote:

B.O. Plenty wrote:
It's too bad that great Cummins engine comes wrapped in a Dodge. At 90 plus thousand miles and after a lot of maintenance my Dodge is falling apart around the Cummins and this is a 2010 "New" body style.

B.O.

What were/are the problems? Did RAM fix them?

98 RAM bought because of the Cummins figured the truck would fall apart, 400K and still rock solid.

50k on 2011 Dually no issues except crappy General POS tires.

They fixed some of it but I'm getting tired of going to the dealer. Oil leak, front crank seal, Oil leak bad crimps on P.S. hose my dollar, Both front axle u-joints went bad, Oil leak transmission, Transmission oil pan coating was coming off, replace pan, Rear axle pinion seal leak, Recall front steering linkage, only took seven months to get the parts, Tailpipe rotting off at muffler, my dollar. Funny the tailpipe on my old 99 Suburban is still the original. Where will this end?

B.O.

[Cummins12V98]

B.O. Plenty wrote:
It's too bad that great Cummins engine comes wrapped in a Dodge. At 90 plus thousand miles and after a lot of maintenance my Dodge is falling apart around the Cummins and this is a 2010 "New" body style.

B.O.

What were/are the problems? Did RAM fix them?

98 RAM bought because of the Cummins figured the truck would fall apart, 400K and still rock solid.

50k on 2011 Dually no issues except crappy General POS tires.

[mileshuff]

B.O. Plenty wrote:
It's too bad that great Cummins engine comes wrapped in a Dodge. At 90 plus thousand miles and after a lot of maintenance my Dodge is falling apart around the Cummins and this is a 2010 "New" body style.B.O.

I have a 2007 Dodge 2500 and other than 1st year emissions issues that have been solved the truck has been flawless over its current 80,000 miles mostly towing.

Can't say the same with friends Ford or Chevy's although their problems are mostly minor.

[mileshuff]

Current Dodge tow ratings list maximum at 30,000lbs. Is it safe to continually add more power, increase tow ratings more and more every year without increasing the wheelbase, width, weight etc. of tow vehicle? At what point is it too much for a conventional light truck and need for a much bigger tow vehicle or semi rig?

[B_O__Plenty]

It's too bad that great Cummins engine comes wrapped in a Dodge. At 90 plus thousand miles and after a lot of maintenance my Dodge is falling apart around the Cummins and this is a 2010 "New" body style.

B.O.

[Golden_HVAC]

The inline 6 will not be able to beat the horsepower of a V8 because the cylinders are larger diameter, and stroke is longer. So the V8 is always able to turn more RPM's and make more horsepower, because HP is torque X RPM.

So even a slightly smaller torque figure X 1,000 more RPM = a lot more horsepower!

That said, the Ford 7.3 Powerstoke in the hands of the right tuner, it can make 1,000 foot pounds of torque, and well into the 500 HP range, well above what the transmission can handle!

Sure Ram can claim it is "Safe" to tow a combined 37,000 GCVWR, but what happens when the brakes fail on the towed trailer? Can it have any chance of stopping such a load on a slight downgrade? What happens when you get off the freeway and find that the trailer wiring harness fell out of it's plug? Or the fuse for the electric brakes tripped, and you should have some braking in a few seconds when it resets?

That is to much of a chance for me. . .

Fred.