2023 Chevy Colorado and GMC Canyon

[FishOnOne]

I really like the new Chevy Colorado and the partial front end view of the new GMC Canyon. Also, GM dumped the diesel option for these Chevy's and very likely for the GMC too.

With Ford in the process of releasing the new Ranger, Stellantis Dakota your next!

Enjoy...

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BTW... I sure would rather have one of these mid-size trucks over a full size EV truck.

[MFL]

Grit dog wrote:
Although in all seriousness, a little OBS S-10 or S-15 with the 4.3 and a 5speed would be sweet. Would be a good commuter for the boy.

I traded my Chevy Cheyenne sport for this gem, in the early 80s. Gas shortage took my 454 away, replaced by this 4-banger 4-speed commuter/workhorse. Notice the snowmobile in the bed, on way to trailhead, with new GF. I am 6' but truck makes me look BIGGER!

At my apartment building, loaded for a 400 mile trip. Big load, no problem. With the pedal flat to floor, could reach 70 mph! Backed off a bit though, not wantin to kill all those horses.

Jerry

[valhalla360]

Grit dog wrote:
Yeah, I hate that tiny, can’t fit well if you’re over 6’ tall, underpowered screaming 85 ponies, sparsely appointed, roll yer own windows and an AM radio, trucks aren’t available any more….

I’m sure they’d sell like hotcakes! Lol

I'm 6'2" and the regular cab was plenty spacious. If I had a couple of my football buddies, it was a bit crammed but otherwise no issue for 2 big guys.

Actually had 93hp but it only weighed in just over 3000lb curb weight. No you aren't going to win a lot of drag races but plenty of pep for normal driving.

Sure our current F250 has 365hp but also weighs in at 7500lb, so it needs that extra HP.

[Grit_dog]

Although in all seriousness, a little OBS S-10 or S-15 with the 4.3 and a 5speed would be sweet. Would be a good commuter for the boy.

[Grit_dog]

Yeah, I hate that tiny, can’t fit well if you’re over 6’ tall, underpowered screaming 85 ponies, sparsely appointed, roll yer own windows and an AM radio, trucks aren’t available any more….

I’m sure they’d sell like hotcakes! Lol

[valhalla360]

JRscooby wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
BTW... I sure would rather have one of these mid-size trucks over a full size EV truck.

Spent my first 20yrs driving in small pickups. If you aren't towing or doing heavy hauling, they were a great option.

My first was a 1986 S-15, 4 banger stick. Averaged 27mpg and it had plenty of pep.

But these modern semi-full size trucks are so close to 1/2 tons in size and cost, no real reason not to just get the 1/2 ton.

Bought wife a new '88 S-10 4cyl 5 speed. Taught 3 teenagers to drive manual in that truck, replaced the clutch at 170,000 miles. Most trouble free vehicle I have ever owned. Replaced it in '05, over 190,000 miles.

BTW, little trucks like that make the best first car. Has frame, better when they wreck it. Manual transmission, forces more attention on driving, less likely to wreck it. Good mileage, cheap to drive. Plus, and the IMHO is a big plus. Remember when you where a kid, got in trouble or should of got in trouble? Always 3-5 of you in the car, right?
Like Grandma used to say about boys, 1 boy, 1 brain. 2 boys, 1/2 brain. 3 boys, no brain.

Yeah, loved that little S-15. Same price as a compact car but heading off to college, I could load all my stuff in one trip. Pick up mulch for my Mom's flower beds in the spring or pick up new appliances to save delivery charges. Handy so long as you didn't need to do heavy duty work.

If I stopped towing, I would love to have one again but the modern semi-full size trucks just don't make sense. Last one I had was a Dakota that only got 17mpg and in retrospect, should have just jumped up to the 1/2 ton.

[Grit_dog]

Pbutler97 wrote:

deltabravo wrote:

Latner wrote:
Diesel still might be an option for the smaller trucks.

New Diesel

"The new engine could also become the base diesel in the updated 2023 GMC Canyon and 2023 Chevy Colorado."

That is the biggest bit of fake news I've heard all year.

With diesel averaging a little less than $2.00 per gallon more than 87 gas and not predicted to drop for the foreseeable future if ever, I don't think they'll be flying off the lots if they are available. You would have to be a financial moron to buy one.

Waiting for all the Joe Brodozer folks to quit buying or sell their diesels.
Worked out great in 2009 or whenever the last big diesel price spike happened.

[Pbutler97]

deltabravo wrote:

Latner wrote:
Diesel still might be an option for the smaller trucks.

New Diesel

"The new engine could also become the base diesel in the updated 2023 GMC Canyon and 2023 Chevy Colorado."

That is the biggest bit of fake news I've heard all year.

With diesel averaging a little less than $2.00 per gallon more than 87 gas and not predicted to drop for the foreseeable future if ever, I don't think they'll be flying off the lots if they are available. You would have to be a financial moron to buy one.

[JRscooby]

valhalla360 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
BTW... I sure would rather have one of these mid-size trucks over a full size EV truck.

Spent my first 20yrs driving in small pickups. If you aren't towing or doing heavy hauling, they were a great option.

My first was a 1986 S-15, 4 banger stick. Averaged 27mpg and it had plenty of pep.

But these modern semi-full size trucks are so close to 1/2 tons in size and cost, no real reason not to just get the 1/2 ton.

Bought wife a new '88 S-10 4cyl 5 speed. Taught 3 teenagers to drive manual in that truck, replaced the clutch at 170,000 miles. Most trouble free vehicle I have ever owned. Replaced it in '05, over 190,000 miles.

BTW, little trucks like that make the best first car. Has frame, better when they wreck it. Manual transmission, forces more attention on driving, less likely to wreck it. Good mileage, cheap to drive. Plus, and the IMHO is a big plus. Remember when you where a kid, got in trouble or should of got in trouble? Always 3-5 of you in the car, right?
Like Grandma used to say about boys, 1 boy, 1 brain. 2 boys, 1/2 brain. 3 boys, no brain.

[mkirsch]

The so-called "compact" trucks have been "barely smaller than full size and offer no real advantage unless you like riding shoulder-to-shoulder with your best buddy" for a long long time now.

[FishOnOne]

goducks10 wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
BTW... I sure would rather have one of these mid-size trucks over a full size EV truck.

Spent my first 20yrs driving in small pickups. If you aren't towing or doing heavy hauling, they were a great option.

My first was a 1986 S-15, 4 banger stick. Averaged 27mpg and it had plenty of pep.

But these modern semi-full size trucks are so close to 1/2 tons in size and cost, no real reason not to just get the 1/2 ton.

I drove a 1994 Ranger for 13 years. Put 160,000 on it. Averaged 23-24 running 70-75 mph on the freeway. Drove an 06 Frontier V6 for 4 years barely getting 23 mpg running the same speeds. You can get that with a F150 2.7 and have a nicer ride.

So the conclusion is to pass on the EV and midsize trucks and just purchase a full size 1/2 ton truck. Looks like the big 3 already has that covered.

[goducks10]

valhalla360 wrote:

FishOnOne wrote:
BTW... I sure would rather have one of these mid-size trucks over a full size EV truck.

Spent my first 20yrs driving in small pickups. If you aren't towing or doing heavy hauling, they were a great option.

My first was a 1986 S-15, 4 banger stick. Averaged 27mpg and it had plenty of pep.

But these modern semi-full size trucks are so close to 1/2 tons in size and cost, no real reason not to just get the 1/2 ton.

I drove a 1994 Ranger for 13 years. Put 160,000 on it. Averaged 23-24 running 70-75 mph on the freeway. Drove an 06 Frontier V6 for 4 years barely getting 23 mpg running the same speeds. You can get that with a F150 2.7 and have a nicer ride.

[valhalla360]

FishOnOne wrote:
BTW... I sure would rather have one of these mid-size trucks over a full size EV truck.

Spent my first 20yrs driving in small pickups. If you aren't towing or doing heavy hauling, they were a great option.

My first was a 1986 S-15, 4 banger stick. Averaged 27mpg and it had plenty of pep.

But these modern semi-full size trucks are so close to 1/2 tons in size and cost, no real reason not to just get the 1/2 ton.

[Fisherman]

Unfortunately RAM and Jeep are not going to continue the 3.0 Diesel, Jan 2023 is the end of the line for the RAM EcoDiesel and Jeep will soon follow. Both being replaced by the I6 3.0 gas.

[deltabravo]

Latner wrote:
Diesel still might be an option for the smaller trucks.

New Diesel

"The new engine could also become the base diesel in the updated 2023 GMC Canyon and 2023 Chevy Colorado."

That is the biggest bit of fake news I've heard all year.
I can't see how a long and tall engine (straight 6) would fit in a midsized truck

[FlatBroke]

Those mid size are getting as big as the 1/2 tons. Been looking for a used truck. All of them are waaay over priced. Not much cheaper than a new one.