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Sliding-into-home wrote:
I realize it's a red herring, best most of us can tell. That's why I talked to an attorney friend who makes a good living fighting insurance companies over car crashes, etc. Half of his answer was as expected, the other half was a surprise :
"There are a lot of guys on death row because they were over their GVWR tire rating. I have never heard of anyone getting sued because they were over their rating."
I don't know if he was being hyperbolic about death row, but he's a good enough friend that I have no reason to doubt the underlying message.
Looking up GVWR in Oregon statutes suggests one is subject to civil action, whatever that means. I would imagine my friend's warning had to do with accidents where the driver of the overloaded rig was at fault and people died.
Either way, even if the penalty isn't as clear, the letter of the law in my state is fairly clear. It's obviously some form of no-no, and I'm not the kind of person who knowingly breaks the law.
All signs point to NL sportsman. Maybe Bigfoot? If it's gonna be a non-slide, I like the idea of clamshell fiberglass design.
On that note, does anyone know how accurate NL's literature was roughly 10-15 years ago? I've seen some used Ten 2000's from that era that claim 2400 dry, and that seems low compared to what they're running these days. I'd love to have the generator compartment, but I don't want to drive halfway across the country to get a good deal on one only to find out it's too heavy.
โNov-20-2018 02:53 PM
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โNov-20-2018 12:54 PM
Sliding-into-home wrote:
Finally found the applicable law for Oregon. Long story short, and as many have suggested/surmised, it's all about tires and axle weight.
Rather than clutter up the thread, the relevant laws are 818.020 and its reference to 818.10, if anyone wants to look them up.
synopsis: lesser of sidewall weigh rating or 600lbs multiplied by the total width of tires (in inches) on the axle = maximum weight on that axle.
I can't find any other reference to actual laws/penalties, especially any that pertain to the tire and loading sticker. I'd be interested in seeing those though, if anyone knows of anything.
Best I can tell, Oregon's legalese is primarily concerned with damage to roads and the repercussion is a fine that would be minimal for the average TC owner, not to mention highly unlikely.
ORS 818.010 table 1 wrote:
The manufacturerโs side wall tire rating (but not to exceed 600 pounds) X the sum of the tire widths, in inches, of the wheels of the axle or tandem axles = maximum allowable weight.
โNov-20-2018 07:29 AM
โNov-20-2018 07:21 AM
Sliding-into-home wrote:
Jeez... For a guy who dishes out far more sarcasm than he receives, my meter must have been way off yesterday. I just checked with him, and indeed, he was messing with me.
I wish that made my decision easier as opposed to cloudier. I guess I need to dig back into the state statutes. As far as WA is concerned, it looks like TIRES are the main deciding factor. I'll see if I can find the snippet I found yesterday for OR.
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โNov-20-2018 05:53 AM
jimh425 wrote:
Feel free to post just one example of someone being on death row because they were over GVWR. I think you just missed his humor, or he's not very good.
I believe Nothern Lite weights in brochure are without options.
โNov-20-2018 05:33 AM