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Buying a New TC Hauler

NRALIFR
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I started the process today of replacing my 2010 F450 with a 2016 model. The Ford dealers here in Little Rock hardly ever have them though, and I had resigned myself to probably driving to Dallas in order to see and drive one.

My local dealer called me last week to let me know that they just got one in that someone else ordered, then backed out of. I figured I could at least look at it, drive it, and decide if I wanted to buy it or order one.

Turns out it was very close to the truck I had already built on Ford's site, and I even liked the color (Ruby Red). It has the black carpeting and cab accents which is what I wanted.







Both front seats are heated AND cooled! :C







This truck has a sunroof which I didn't want (sorta useless with a TC), a soft tonneau bed cover (not wanted), gooseneck/fifth-wheel prep (not needed now, but you never know about the future). It did NOT have upfitter switches in the dash, and I have a use for at least three of those. The dealer is going to trade the tonneau cover for the upfitter switches, so I'm happy with that.

I'll probably take delivery Tuesday, and when the switches and an extra satellite antenna come in I'll bring it back to them for installation. I've got a few things to pull off the truck in my sig. I ordered some Torklift tiedowns from Tweetys today. I'm going to temporarily use the fifth-wheel 7-way plug in the bed for the TC, but my intent is to install a heavy-duty battery charge circuit on the new truck like I had on the old truck. I'll be using 4 AWG wire for the +/- 12v, and split the camper's umbilical cord between two heavy-duty Pollak trailer connectors that will be located closer to the front of the bed.

I'll be changing my sig pic's soon!

:):)
2001 Lance 1121 on a 2016 F450 ‘Scuse me while I whinge.
And for all you Scooby-Doo and Yosemite Sam types………..Let’s Go Brandon!!!
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Geo_Boy
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A class B or C motor home would be much easier to access the bathroom than the hatch in the overhead of a TC.

riah
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Just an FYI… to update this thread (which I inadvertently hijacked along the way)

We finally made a boot for the “escape hatch” 🙂

And we (hopefully) will be testing it out next week!

So, I will post a picture sometime soon too (if that option is working again still.)

Ps - We have made the following additional upgrades now in addition to the escape hatch! We also have swapped 2 flooded lead acid 100 aH batteries out for 2 LiFePO4 (2x 260 aH batteries; from sunfunkits dot com) as well as added a 40 amp Renogy dc dc charger along to the 200 watts of solar charging which we installed last year when we upgraded all the lighting to LED. So we should be set for boon-docking and minimal need for using generator to charge up the batteries, since it’s equivalent to having 5 FLAs! Although we will need to use the generator for AC items like the microwave and electric coffee maker and other residential items we wish to run, because we do not yet have an inverter.

Bert_the_Welder
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Thanks for the reply. Hatch looked smaller then that in the pic.
Would still love to see dashcam footage of the entry/exit procedure! LOL! Must be funny to look across from another car on the road and see that! Ha ha ha!
Hope Mr. ankle heals up soon and you get some true vacation time in. And hats off for being cautious these days.
Nice the hatch came in handy for that emergency bugout. Up here, it would usually be drunk idiots or big animals. Lead Mosquitoes are less common. 😉
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riah
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The mattress is a tri-fold. We separated 1 of the 3 sections off and we are able to fold it up on the side and bungee it against the left side of the bunk and then the 3rd section of the mattress fits snugly, into the section in the front of the camper during travel (no bungee needed for that one, lol) which frees up the area in the center of the bed area for the hatch to be opened! . ??

(Going up into the camper does require me to work on my upper body strength though, but it gets easier once I get the hang of it initially on each trip; plus, dropping back down into the truck is much easier, as gravity is on my side, lol! )


billtex wrote:
Maybe I missed it, but where do you sleep?

You must be retired from “Stunt-man” school! It’s a cool idea, but I can’t imagine crawling through that hatch, accessing/using the bathroom, and dropping back in!?

God bless you, no way I could accomplish that even if the truck were parked!

billtex
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Maybe I missed it, but where do you sleep?

You must be retired from “Stunt-man” school! It’s a cool idea, but I can’t imagine crawling through that hatch, accessing/using the bathroom, and dropping back in!?

God bless you, no way I could accomplish that even if the truck were parked!
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riah
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Lol, no I wish we were that small in stature! But now that we are newly retired, once my hubby’s badly sprained ankle heals (but it’s going to be minimally another 4+ weeks) we plan to start hiking and biking regularly in hopes of getting back into shape again!

Regarding the TC redesign with the hatch-
We missed the convenience of being able to access the restroom from the passenger area, so this resolved that issue (since the only thing that fits through the rear window pass through (which we booted) seem to be our cat and Bassett hound/Beagle mix dog!)

We had initially contemplated having the rear window replaced so that would be capable of retracting and enter the camper that way, but the sunroof and hatch design was easier not to mention much less expensive!

The size of the hatch we installed is 26 “ x 18” .

It’s mostly used as internal access into the camper/truck passenger areas, so that we can use the restroom without needing to have the driver stop and pullover and enter it through the rear door. Instead we just pull ourself up/drop down through the hatch while still in motion.

It also comes handy when the weather is inclement - as well as in an emergency situation. (For instance, we had pulled off to rest overnight in a mall parking lot and were awoken by popping noises that sounded very similar to gunshots going off nearby at about 1 AM! Thankfully it was there, and we were able to drop down through the hatch and safely get out of there. Also very thankfully we didn’t come across wherever the source of the popping noises had originated when we pulled out of there either!)

But having gone through various versions of camping - from tenting, to a TC, to a 5th wheel and more recently to an RV, we are now empty nesters and decided to return back to a TC for traveling now as new retirees.

Unfortunately though, our retirement start date coincided with the year of this global pandemic, so we have not really had the freedom to travel very much yet - as our travel plans have been put on hold for the most part until we are eligible for a vaccination - which most likely will be in the last eligibility group as is sadly typically our luck.

Hence our travel/trips have been limited to shuttling my elderly parents and their vehicle back and forth between the NE area and Fl. Last May we brought them north along with trailered their car back home from Fl, then brought them and their car back again to Fl in December, and we returned back north again for a couple months until last week when we returned to Fl again, as my parents have been having some health issues of concern, so we wanted to be closer than a 2days drive away to get to them, in case any further issues arose or help was needed. (So we are following the CDC recommendations and staying self contained and just self isolating in their driveway for the most part since we arrived last week - partially due to my hubby’s inability to walk much yet on a recently sprained ankle, and partially because the Covid positivity rates are greater than 5% here in Fl which is higher than the recommended rates epidemiologists, CDC and WHO otherwise recommend to be out and about safely in the community. So we are just sitting around in the sun in their driveway enjoying the warmer climate zone - which is a very welcome change to the snow and frigid temps we left back in the NE region!)

Thanks for your response (and your interest in this topic!)

Bert the Welder wrote:
Wow, Riah. That is something and does indeed take some brass to do. Love to see a pic of the boot.
How big is the hatch? Looks like you'd have to be a starving 12 yr old to get through it! LOL!
My first thought before going back and reading your use of it was escape hatch. If something dodgy going on outside the TC, you could drop down and drive off. If someone broke into the truck, you could drop a noose or down. LOL!
Me, I'd let the three Chihuahua's through and grab the popcorn.....

riah
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We bought the TC used and realized it had a little bit of water damage in the overhang area which needed to repair, and when we tore up the area of the overhang to repair, reinforce and reinsulate it, we realized that we could utilize the sunroof as a pass through if we installed a hatch in the overhang of the TC; and since we were already working in that area, we went forward with our new design.

(Plus, after realizing how minimal the support there actually was in the original design, any structural enhancement one adds is going to be an improvement to the overall structural integrity in the overhang area of the TC.)

NRALIFR wrote:
That’s awesome. I’ve never seen anything like that.

That was actually billtex who said that, but that’s ok. I wanted to see a picture of it too. Some mods take more balls to execute than others. This one took the large kind. :B


:):)

ticki2
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deltabravo wrote:
ticki2 wrote:
If its booted that would be a slick way to preheat the camper while traveling to destination


I preheat the camper while driving by turning on the furnace in the camper with my bluetooth thermostat.


That is certainly an option but you are using up propane . The truck cab heat is practically free . On a long drive the difference could be significant in cold climate . The same could be done with a pass through window.
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deltabravo
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ticki2 wrote:
If its booted that would be a slick way to preheat the camper while traveling to destination


I preheat the camper while driving by turning on the furnace in the camper with my bluetooth thermostat.
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riah
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Hi,

It’s only minimally booted; meaning it is not insulated well enough to be very useful in heating the TC, as its currently booted. (We didn’t even consider using it that way, but now I guess we’ll have to take that option into consideration and upgrade the boot design!)

ticki2 wrote:
If its booted that would be a slick way to preheat the camper while traveling to destination

ticki2
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If its booted that would be a slick way to preheat the camper while traveling to destination
'68 Avion C-11
'02 GMC DRW D/A flatbed

Bert_the_Welder
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Wow, Riah. That is something and does indeed take some brass to do. Love to see a pic of the boot.
How big is the hatch? Looks like you'd have to be a starving 12 yr old to get through it! LOL!
My first thought before going back and reading your use of it was escape hatch. If something dodgy going on outside the TC, you could drop down and drive off. If someone broke into the truck, you could drop a noose or down. LOL!
Me, I'd let the three Chihuahua's through and grab the popcorn.....:B
:h 1998 GMC 2500, 10.5 Okanagan, My better/smarter half, George and Finnegan(APBT), all I need.

NRALIFR
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That’s awesome. I’ve never seen anything like that.

That was actually billtex who said that, but that’s ok. I wanted to see a picture of it too. Some mods take more balls to execute than others. This one took the large kind. :B

:):)
2001 Lance 1121 on a 2016 F450 ‘Scuse me while I whinge.
And for all you Scooby-Doo and Yosemite Sam types………..Let’s Go Brandon!!!

jimh406
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Picture is there.

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