Chevy's I4 2.7 turbo engine

[Rubber_Ducky1]

My son is looking at getting a 2019 Silverado 1500 truck. A lot of them on the lots have Chevy's new 2.7 turbo engine. This engine replaces the 4.3 V6. He won't be towing a camper with it. He is wondering about the reliability of this new engine. Right now he has a 2017 Silverado with the V6. Any info on this new engine will be greatly appreciated and I'll pass it on to him.

[Grit_dog]

Dadoffourgirls wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
...So what is the advantage? Not better fuel economy, not lower purchase price, not lower maint/repair cost (supposition on my part but likely true) and you can't even open the hood and brag about your engine cause it looks like a little rice grinder!

Not meant to disparage the OP's purchase, just don't see the advantage of it.

The 2.7 is $1395 cheaper.

So, lower purchase price.

That makes sense. However, I've been comparing those trucks recently and, thinking the same thing, it didn't appear that discount was making it to the bottom line. I could always find a 5.3 same options for the same or lesser price, but there's also orders of magnitude more 5.3s for sale currently than 2.7s. At least out west.

That said, it's a seriously impressive power to displacement/cylinder ratio. Cool stuff.

[TurnThePage]

I remember way back when everybody was talking about Ford's Ecoboost "screaming" to keep up with the V8s. Reality is that it usually blows them away, and even tows at lower RPMs than those V8s. Ford's 2.7L Ecoboost is a beast. Chevy's version will likely shake out pretty well too.

[Dadoffourgirls]

As a reminder, many people use their vehicles differently than the perception of how a vehicle is used. Some people have more urban, rural, freeway, or trail miles. Depending on the type of driving, they may never experience a screaming 4 cyl!. Others may drive 15% uphill grades all day long, 365 days a year.

I have driven many vehicles over the last 12 years. I have driven close to 50k miles a year. I have driven similar vehicles with different engines. Depending on your driving, and where you drive, they will give a different result.

For example, I had a 2014 Cadillac CTS AWD with the 3.6, and one with the 2.0T at the same time. Depending on the drive, they may have the same mpg or one was better. From my experience, cruising at 70+ mph, the V6 3.6 was the better engine. For commuting to work in rural and urban driving, the 2.0T was the better engine. This summer, I drove both 2019 GM pickups, one with 4.3 V6 and the other a 5.3 V8. The 4.3 did better in mpg in some scenarios, while the 5.3 did better in others.

So I hope that the GM customer enjoys their new truck. I hope it exceeds his expectation. And I look forward to feedback.

There must be a reason that GM offers 6 different engines in their 1500 truck.

[Rubber_Ducky1]

For all of you Debbie Downers, you know what truck I have? I have a 1993 Nissan D21 pickup. It has the 2.4l 4 cylinder engine. It is 2 wheel drive. It has 68,255 actual miles on it. I bought it new in June 1993. I use it to pull a trailer with my golf cart on the trailer. I've also had the bed loaded down to haul various items. Since my truck has an automatic tranny, it is rated to tow only 2000 lbs. My son's new truck is rated to tow 7000 lbs. But like I mentioned in my original post, my son doesn't plan on towing anything with this new truck. He didn't tow anything with the 2017 Silverado he had. As I said I'll try and post his opinions of his new truck after he gets some miles on it.

[B_O__Plenty]

V-8 is just loafing along while the nervous little pumped up 4 cyl is screaming its' guts out. Which one is going to last longer? I know what I would buy.
B.O.

[Groover]

Dadoffourgirls wrote:

Grit dog wrote:
...So what is the advantage? Not better fuel economy, not lower purchase price, not lower maint/repair cost (supposition on my part but likely true) and you can't even open the hood and brag about your engine cause it looks like a little rice grinder!

Not meant to disparage the OP's purchase, just don't see the advantage of it.

The 2.7 is $1395 cheaper.

So, lower purchase price.

The OP has said that he will give us a report after his son get some miles on it. Then we will have a good answer to the question.

Regardless, I hope that he is happy with his purchase.

[Dadoffourgirls]

Grit dog wrote:
...So what is the advantage? Not better fuel economy, not lower purchase price, not lower maint/repair cost (supposition on my part but likely true) and you can't even open the hood and brag about your engine cause it looks like a little rice grinder!

Not meant to disparage the OP's purchase, just don't see the advantage of it.

The 2.7 is $1395 cheaper.

So, lower purchase price.

[Grit_dog]

All I could afford wrote:
At the risk of being considered the youngest old-fashioned guy, I would much rather have the familiar, simple, proven naturally aspirated gasoline V8 engine even if it was rated at less horsepower and torque.

I tend to keep a vehicle till the very end, rarely if ever under warranty. My whole business model depends on being able to research common problems and solutions both on the Internet, and from trusted local mechanics.

Good, sound simple logic there. And while I'm not afraid of technology, I don't need to have it unless there's a clear advantage.
If the mpg reports of the new 2.7 are wrong and it gets notably better mileage than a 5.3 (and of course is reliable) then it is the right choice. But currently the manufacturers mpg ratings and the "other" tests don't support that.
So what is the advantage? Not better fuel economy, not lower purchase price, not lower maint/repair cost (supposition on my part but likely true) and you can't even open the hood and brag about your engine cause it looks like a little rice grinder!

Not meant to disparage the OP's purchase, just don't see the advantage of it.

[Rubber_Ducky1]

mkirsch wrote:

Rubber Ducky1 wrote:
Thanks for all the replies. My son took the plunge and got himself a 2019 Silverado with the I4 2.7l turbo engine.

Awesome! I'm glad he didn't let all the baseless naysaying deter him. If the truck feels good and will do the job for him, it's the right choice. There's a warranty for any issues he might have, and lemon laws if they ultimately can't fix the problem.

Would you relay his impressions of the truck after he's had it for a while?

After my son has put some miles on his new truck, I'll post his thoughts of it.

[All_I_could_aff]

At the risk of being considered the youngest old-fashioned guy, I would much rather have the familiar, simple, proven naturally aspirated gasoline V8 engine even if it was rated at less horsepower and torque.

I tend to keep a vehicle till the very end, rarely if ever under warranty. My whole business model depends on being able to research common problems and solutions both on the Internet, and from trusted local mechanics.

[womps]

Rubber Ducky1 wrote:
Thanks for all the replies. My son took the plunge and got himself a 2019 Silverado with the I4 2.7l turbo engine.

Interesting read on Motortrend.ca. They say there is no need for the V8 engine in the 1500 GM products because the 2.7 and 3.0 Duramax are so good.

[mkirsch]

Rubber Ducky1 wrote:
Thanks for all the replies. My son took the plunge and got himself a 2019 Silverado with the I4 2.7l turbo engine.

Awesome! I'm glad he didn't let all the baseless naysaying deter him. If the truck feels good and will do the job for him, it's the right choice. There's a warranty for any issues he might have, and lemon laws if they ultimately can't fix the problem.

Would you relay his impressions of the truck after he's had it for a while?

[Rubber_Ducky1]

Thanks for all the replies. My son took the plunge and got himself a 2019 Silverado with the I4 2.7l turbo engine.

[Jayco-noslide]

I think that getting lots of horsepower plus good MPG out of really small turbo 4 or even 3 cylinder engines is a great engineering accomplishment that is being over shadowed by the electric bandwagon. For example the Honda Civic with a 1.5 turbo 175 HP that could match up with many of my past V-8s and still get double the MPG. But I'm not convinced that smaller is better in a truck. The power might be there but is the MPG much better than the V8? Is the price much less? I wonder if GM considers this almost a test set-up to see if it flies. I've never been all that impressed by the Ford truck twin-turbo 6's. Not that much better MPG than the simple v8 but more complex.

[mkirsch]

I have to say, it's a good thing vehicles don't run on opinions or they'd ALL be junk...

It's not like nobody has ever built an engine in an I4 configuration before. In fact, someone's been mass producing reliable I4 engines since at least 1908. Your first reliable mass produced V8 didn't come along until 1932.

If anything I'd expect you to be jumping for joy that they're reverting to an older, more mature, more reliable, engine design...