Diesel vs gas......................

[blt2ski]

OK folks, there have been a few to many diesel vs gas threads that have shall we say gone to "Hell and a hand basket"! So if all of you would put in you BEST, no flaming reasons for going gas vs diesel, pro and con, I will either leave your thread, or copy and paste pertinant info to the 4 posts of pro and con of diesel or gas. This can include the GM 8.1 vs Dmax or Ford V-8/10 vs PSD etc too.

Be real and honest in you answers, not hear say, flaming etc PLEASE!

If posts are good ones, I will leave, if inflamatory or trolling in nature, they will be deleted! I will get this stick'd to the top for future parusing for those that need this type of info.

Added 6-23-04

We are getting closer to answers I am looking for etc.

Stuff like Ken's - T-Bone posts are good. There are a few others of you that have not posted, some with a 9 point question and answer type to figure out how you went with one or the other. If you are one of those, PLEASE repost in this thread. I may have to look up whom has done this and PM you, but if you think this is you, you now know what to do.

Also, for those of you with $ per gallon for either fuel right now, I would prefer to see a post with ...."in my area, diesel is typically .10 less than unleaded" then explain your numbers. As currently in the Seattle area, diesel and unleaded are any where from 2.05 -2.30 per gallon, with mid test .10 more and premium about .20 more, with equal high low splits. Two weeks ago those prices were upwards of .30 -.40 per gallon more. people were posting $ per gallon that were for me. "I wish" If someone is reading your post a year from now, they may want to know where your paying 1.65, when the price of fuel is over $3 per gallon. Let's keep prices out of it if possible.

Bert and tin tipi, got into a good discusion on the pros and cons of RPM's, drive train etc. I would prefer to NOT see the quote of the other in responding threads, maybe just write a quick wording of re tranny gearing, instead of the whole 40 words or so in that paragragh, so the repsonse is shorter if possible quicker and easier to read etc.

I have deleted some 15+/- posts, that were off topic etc. Please note, I am trying to keep this at the top, as the ONLY gas/diesel thread in this area. So if one is trying to decide, we do not have to go thru this BS any more. As such, I will be deleting ANY future posts close to resembling this type of topic. I may have to change "this" title to a better one, if one has a better sounding title, to be more positive, better claification, let me know here, or in a PM/e-mail, what ever you feel most comfortible with.

Again thank you for all of you that are keeping responses positive, etc.

Also we could use a few more positive reasons to go gas, as many can see I have both gas and diesel, both have a place! Both have positive reasons to buy that fuel, lets keep the threads etc to that purpose only!

Marty

[Hannibal]

You buy tools from Walmart to replace injectors for fun? I rest my case...

[transamz9]

Hannibal wrote:
transamz9, You and I might tackle a set of injectors. I have the tooling as I am a mechanic of a different type of transportation. Most people don't have the benefit of being able to do much more than routine maintenance if even that. At +50 years old, I don't look forward to leaning over a fender for twelve hours. I would rather avoid the whole ordeal and endure 4k rpm on the uphills.

Hell, I replace injectors for fun. Do it with tools you can buy from Wally World.:)

[rhagfo]

Hannibal wrote:
transamz9, You and I might tackle a set of injectors. I have the tooling as I am a mechanic of a different type of transportation. Most people don't have the benefit of being able to do much more than routine maintenance if even that. At +50 years old, I don't look forward to leaning over a fender for twelve hours. I would rather avoid the whole ordeal and endure 4k rpm on the uphills.

Well I will say that as a young man, and then youg farther I did much of my own maintenance and repairs to save money. Now days I do it for therapy, never try to rush a job, but have a almost 50 year collection of tool to go with it.

[Hannibal]

transamz9, You and I might tackle a set of injectors. I have the tooling as I am a mechanic of a different type of transportation. Most people don't have the benefit of being able to do much more than routine maintenance if even that. At +50 years old, I don't look forward to leaning over a fender for twelve hours. I would rather avoid the whole ordeal and endure 4k rpm on the uphills.

[Jarlaxle]

transamz9 wrote:

Jarlaxle wrote:

Hannibal wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

Jarlaxle wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

bankcardrep1 wrote:
Speaking of a suitcase full of money, I just spent 2300.00 on four injectors for my 06 Duramax. Need to be prepared for 4 more. Love it, but thinking a big block will be my next tow vehicle.

Need to learn how to do the work yourself. It's simple stuff. I just spent $1800 doing my FIL's '03 D-max and that was for all 8 with a 2 year warranty.

JUST THE INJECTORS are $400 EACH, and that's for the cheapest available ones! (Delcos are more.)

Here is $362 a piece with free shipping and no core charge with a 2 year warranty.....;)

2006 duramax injectors

Not exactly. $1200 core charge if you don't ship them your old injectors within 30 days.

Yeah...I think I'll pass on getting injectors from "Fast Eddie's eBay Auto Supply". Wouldn't surprise me if they were the last dude's "cores", cleaned up and reboxed!

HAHAHA!!! What ever dude. 2 year free replacement on used parts. Right:/

Yeah...if the dude is still around in two years...or three months!

[transamz9]

Hannibal wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

Jarlaxle wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

bankcardrep1 wrote:
Speaking of a suitcase full of money, I just spent 2300.00 on four injectors for my 06 Duramax. Need to be prepared for 4 more. Love it, but thinking a big block will be my next tow vehicle.

Need to learn how to do the work yourself. It's simple stuff. I just spent $1800 doing my FIL's '03 D-max and that was for all 8 with a 2 year warranty.

JUST THE INJECTORS are $400 EACH, and that's for the cheapest available ones! (Delcos are more.)

Here is $362 a piece with free shipping and no core charge with a 2 year warranty.....;)

2006 duramax injectors

Not exactly. $1200 core charge if you don't ship them your old injectors within 30 days.

They pay all shipping...... can't make it much easier than that.If you are not able to put the old injectors back in the box that they supply and peel a sticker and put on it that they supply then there is a problem. Oh, I forgot, you will have to take it to a store that ships UPS or call UPS to pick it up (for free)They can't do that for ya.:S

[transamz9]

Jarlaxle wrote:

Hannibal wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

Jarlaxle wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

bankcardrep1 wrote:
Speaking of a suitcase full of money, I just spent 2300.00 on four injectors for my 06 Duramax. Need to be prepared for 4 more. Love it, but thinking a big block will be my next tow vehicle.

Need to learn how to do the work yourself. It's simple stuff. I just spent $1800 doing my FIL's '03 D-max and that was for all 8 with a 2 year warranty.

JUST THE INJECTORS are $400 EACH, and that's for the cheapest available ones! (Delcos are more.)

Here is $362 a piece with free shipping and no core charge with a 2 year warranty.....;)

2006 duramax injectors

Not exactly. $1200 core charge if you don't ship them your old injectors within 30 days.

Yeah...I think I'll pass on getting injectors from "Fast Eddie's eBay Auto Supply". Wouldn't surprise me if they were the last dude's "cores", cleaned up and reboxed!

HAHAHA!!! What ever dude. 2 year free replacement on used parts. Right:/

[transamz9]

Hannibal wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

There's a little more to changing diesel injectors than righty tighty, lefty loosie. Anyone who really does do their own work would know this.

No, really there is not. You unbolt what you need to get to them and you bolt back on what you take off, it's that simple. I do all my own work and then some. As far as the electric connections go, they will only plug back the same way.

So really there is not yet really there is.:S

What does this simple task take, 20-30 minutes?:h

The last time I looked under the hood of a Dmax or PSD, there was plenty to remove just to get to the injectors.

Really? This is silly. That's like saying that someone would have to pay someone to mow their yard because the have 3 acres to mow instead of a half acre. If you can remove 1 part you can remove a thousand bolts. The D-max that I did was the first one I have ever done and it took me right at 12 hours. That was taking my time and listening to a ball game and doing some stuff on and off for the DW. The biggest problem people have is they raise the hood and become overwhelmed at what they see. The air filter box on a '03 duramax is literally held in the truck with one (1) hose clamp.

I'm not saying people should tackle pulling the motor. I'm just stating that people could do more than they thing if they just tried a little bit. The PS 6.0 injector job is actually easier just mor stuff to take off.

Passenger side injectors on an 2003 duramax done and getting ready to start putting back together. Things that were removed: air filter box and tube, air tube to the inner cooler, fuel filter housing, FICM (fuel injection control module) 4 high pressure fuel lines, two piece valve cover.

[Jarlaxle]

Hannibal wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

Jarlaxle wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

bankcardrep1 wrote:
Speaking of a suitcase full of money, I just spent 2300.00 on four injectors for my 06 Duramax. Need to be prepared for 4 more. Love it, but thinking a big block will be my next tow vehicle.

Need to learn how to do the work yourself. It's simple stuff. I just spent $1800 doing my FIL's '03 D-max and that was for all 8 with a 2 year warranty.

JUST THE INJECTORS are $400 EACH, and that's for the cheapest available ones! (Delcos are more.)

Here is $362 a piece with free shipping and no core charge with a 2 year warranty.....;)

2006 duramax injectors

Not exactly. $1200 core charge if you don't ship them your old injectors within 30 days.

Yeah...I think I'll pass on getting injectors from "Fast Eddie's eBay Auto Supply". Wouldn't surprise me if they were the last dude's "cores", cleaned up and reboxed!

[Hannibal]

transamz9 wrote:

There's a little more to changing diesel injectors than righty tighty, lefty loosie. Anyone who really does do their own work would know this.

No, really there is not. You unbolt what you need to get to them and you bolt back on what you take off, it's that simple. I do all my own work and then some. As far as the electric connections go, they will only plug back the same way.

So really there is not yet really there is.:S

What does this simple task take, 20-30 minutes?:h

The last time I looked under the hood of a Dmax or PSD, there was plenty to remove just to get to the injectors.

[Hannibal]

transamz9 wrote:

Jarlaxle wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

bankcardrep1 wrote:
Speaking of a suitcase full of money, I just spent 2300.00 on four injectors for my 06 Duramax. Need to be prepared for 4 more. Love it, but thinking a big block will be my next tow vehicle.

Need to learn how to do the work yourself. It's simple stuff. I just spent $1800 doing my FIL's '03 D-max and that was for all 8 with a 2 year warranty.

JUST THE INJECTORS are $400 EACH, and that's for the cheapest available ones! (Delcos are more.)

Here is $362 a piece with free shipping and no core charge with a 2 year warranty.....;)

2006 duramax injectors

Not exactly. $1200 core charge if you don't ship them your old injectors within 30 days.

[rhagfo]

transamz9 wrote:

And they're Chineseum, of course! Pass.

HUH? Show me where you will get Bosch injectors with a 2 year warranty for that kind of money.

I can get genuine Bosch for my 01 Cummins for $69 ea. Oh how I love the simplicity of mechanical injectors!

[transamz9]

And they're Chineseum, of course! Pass.

HUH? Show me where you will get Bosch injectors with a 2 year warranty for that kind of money.

[Jarlaxle]

And they're Chineseum, of course! Pass.

transamz9 wrote:

Jarlaxle wrote:

transamz9 wrote:

bankcardrep1 wrote:
Speaking of a suitcase full of money, I just spent 2300.00 on four injectors for my 06 Duramax. Need to be prepared for 4 more. Love it, but thinking a big block will be my next tow vehicle.

Need to learn how to do the work yourself. It's simple stuff. I just spent $1800 doing my FIL's '03 D-max and that was for all 8 with a 2 year warranty.

JUST THE INJECTORS are $400 EACH, and that's for the cheapest available ones! (Delcos are more.)

Here is $362 a piece with free shipping and no core charge with a 2 year warranty.....;)

2006 duramax injectors

[transamz9]

There's a little more to changing diesel injectors than righty tighty, lefty loosie. Anyone who really does do their own work would know this.

No, really there is not. You unbolt what you need to get to them and you bolt back on what you take off, it's that simple. I do all my own work and then some. As far as the electric connections go, they will only plug back the same way.